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If you voted for brexit did you get what you wanted?

258 replies

Poutl · 08/09/2024 12:43

I’m definitely not a sneery anti-brexiter. I get that 50% of the population had legitimate concerns and did what they thought was best for the country. But my question is: did the thing that was so intolerable as a result of being a part of the EU get resolved for you by way of brexit?

I just don’t see what the point of it all was.

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poppyzbrite4 · 08/09/2024 19:36

hellywelly3 · 08/09/2024 19:30

Yeah I chatted amongst my friends and family. Lots of different political preferences and different social economic backgrounds. I didn’t know many who were 100% what way they were voting. There was misinformation that was mixed in with facts. I’m not a stupid person it was never as simple as one was good and one was bad.

I'm not saying you are stupid and apologies if what I said insinuated that. It's just that I saw someone interviewed before the vote and she said the same thing, that she was voting purely for the NHS.

ItTook9Years · 08/09/2024 19:34

ThreeFeetTall · 08/09/2024 18:25

I knew some people (of asian heritage) who voted for brexit on the basis that it was unfair that east European migrants got easier access to the UK. I imagine they did get what they wanted.

A South African friend, who came here 30ish years ago said the same. It was hard for her so it should be hard for everyone.

Pennyswimsplash · 08/09/2024 19:33

Most people who I know who voted brexit were fed up of the huge amounts of money being sent to other countries & hoped that money could be better utilised on services such as education & the NHS. They also hoped it brexit would minimise the number of illegal immigrants arriving in the UK costing tax payers millions a year. As we know neither happened.

hellywelly3 · 08/09/2024 19:30

poppyzbrite4 · 08/09/2024 19:23

Didn't you discuss that with anyone or fact check? I heard that as well but knew Johnson was a liar and didn't believe a word coming out of his mouth. It was largely debunked at the time.

Yeah I chatted amongst my friends and family. Lots of different political preferences and different social economic backgrounds. I didn’t know many who were 100% what way they were voting. There was misinformation that was mixed in with facts. I’m not a stupid person it was never as simple as one was good and one was bad.

JudgeJenny · 08/09/2024 19:30

You could always vote for the European law makers. Did you?

Arrivapercy · 08/09/2024 19:28

My cleaner voted for Brexit. Since it happened what she can charge has risen from £11 /h to £18/h.

This is what she hoped, and its happened, so sadly she feels it was a success. A neighbour who works for one of the supermarket chains feel similar.

poppyzbrite4 · 08/09/2024 19:23

hellywelly3 · 08/09/2024 19:17

I don’t think we were given all the facts just lots of lies for political gain. My vote wasn’t anything to do with immigration it was the EU membership fee that I stupidly thought would be put into the NHS.

Didn't you discuss that with anyone or fact check? I heard that as well but knew Johnson was a liar and didn't believe a word coming out of his mouth. It was largely debunked at the time.

Tallerandtall · 08/09/2024 19:23

@Poutl

Brexit is an utter disaster.
people talk about sovereignty but that just such a unmeasurable thing in a first past the post system.

everything else is worse.

SnakesAndArrows · 08/09/2024 19:21

Redlettuce · 08/09/2024 17:20

It wasn't mainly about the economics but it hasn't proved too bad. Growth is roughly the same as the EU since Brexit.

It did mean we were able to negotiate our own vaccine deals during covid.

The problem is we had a lot of people running the UK that didn't believe in Brexit and were actually trying to undermine it so we got a poor deal.

No it really didn’t. The U.K. has always been able to licence its own medicines and make its own deals with manufacturers. You fell for Johnson’s lie.

EasternStandard · 08/09/2024 19:19

hellywelly3 · 08/09/2024 19:17

I don’t think we were given all the facts just lots of lies for political gain. My vote wasn’t anything to do with immigration it was the EU membership fee that I stupidly thought would be put into the NHS.

I thought the amount did go up by more than that anyway

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 08/09/2024 19:18

No I didn’t because the opportunities have never been exploited. I now believe that there was never a hope that the powers that be would allow us the freedoms we voted for. I no longer believe in democracy. 😔

Sourisblanche · 08/09/2024 19:18

I voted remain so can’t answer the OP.

However at a recent family gathering, my older relations who voted for brexit were all a bit annoyed in one way or another by it, from the restricted travel, to increased immigration since brexit and the country basically being in a bit of a mess. There was low level grumbling and some sort of acceptance that leaving the EU hadn’t worked out as they’d hoped.

I’ve had so many arguments over brexit in the past that I realised you can’t force anyone to change their minds but there is a slow realisation that much damage has been done to the UK because of brexit.

hellywelly3 · 08/09/2024 19:17

I don’t think we were given all the facts just lots of lies for political gain. My vote wasn’t anything to do with immigration it was the EU membership fee that I stupidly thought would be put into the NHS.

poppyzbrite4 · 08/09/2024 19:16

Isleoftights · 08/09/2024 19:14

TheBers2024 · Today 19:01

The question was " if you voted Brexit".
Yet the majority of respondents appear to be from Remain voters.

I'd say it's not Leave voters who don't understand questions....

Yes, what part of 'if you voted Brexit' do they not understand ?

You obviously voted leave. What did you vote leave for and did you get it?

Menopausalsourpuss · 08/09/2024 19:15

Anyway can't believe people on mn still moaning about brexit, they're are so many other things that have negatively affected your quality of life, lockdowns being the main one which mumsnet thought was great at the time! I don't remember many people trying to find out facts then or thinking about the long term consequences! It was 8 years ago ffs.

Isleoftights · 08/09/2024 19:14

TheBers2024 · Today 19:01

The question was " if you voted Brexit".
Yet the majority of respondents appear to be from Remain voters.

I'd say it's not Leave voters who don't understand questions....

Yes, what part of 'if you voted Brexit' do they not understand ?

poppyzbrite4 · 08/09/2024 19:12

RafaistheKingofClay · 08/09/2024 19:05

There’s also the issue that fairly prominent vote leave people were talking about Brexit not leaving the single market, Rees-Mogg was talking about a second referendum to determine what sort of Brexit and a lot of stuff was written off a project fears.

It’s difficult to imagine that anyone who voted, whichever way they voted, knew what Brexit meant.

I wasn't aware of the suggestion of a second referendum. I knew that we'd have to leave the single market as part of Brexit as that was part of the condition of being in the EU, that along with freedom of movement.

The project fear nonsense came alongside the don't believe the experts rhetoric. It was impossible to talk to some people about the facts because anything with evidence was dismissed.

Most people I spoke to about Brexit, were voting because of immigration. They just thought that immigration would stop after the vote. Farage pulled a blinder with his racist poster.

Menopausalsourpuss · 08/09/2024 19:08

Of course people didn't know what Brexit meant any more than people know at any election as govts just veer off and do their own thing which is rarely what the public want. Which is why Labour are already v. unpopular with ks ratings in negative figures even though only been in for 7 weeks.

RafaistheKingofClay · 08/09/2024 19:05

poppyzbrite4 · 08/09/2024 18:40

I was being ironic. The information was there but people chose not to do any research or listen. There was a lot of talk at the time of how we shouldn't trust 'experts'.

They instead believed utter nonsense without doing the bare minimum of fact checking. Then millions voted for Farage again this year.

There’s also the issue that fairly prominent vote leave people were talking about Brexit not leaving the single market, Rees-Mogg was talking about a second referendum to determine what sort of Brexit and a lot of stuff was written off a project fears.

It’s difficult to imagine that anyone who voted, whichever way they voted, knew what Brexit meant.

Menopausalsourpuss · 08/09/2024 19:04

As of May 2024 31% of the electorate agree that uk was right to leave the EU. That is skewed by people who thought it was right originally but think the govt made a pigs ear of leaving. 20% of the electorate voted for Labour so Brexit is still more popular than Labour (and 17.5m people voted for leave v 9.5m people for Labour). And alot of them have regret over voting Labour (they didn't know what they were voting for as per all recent elections where subsequently the govt have done major things which weren't in their manifesto and not done major things in their manifesto). Faith in politicians is at an all time low).

TheBers2024 · 08/09/2024 19:01

The question was " if you voted Brexit".
Yet the majority of respondents appear to be from Remain voters.

I'd say it's not Leave voters who don't understand questions....

Beekeepingmum · 08/09/2024 18:55

I'm still not clear there have been any benefits? Didn't Boris appoint a minister to be responsible for promoting the benefits? Not sure what happened to them...

LondonLass61 · 08/09/2024 18:50

I think that since post WW2, the UK has had an identity crisis particularly since the loss of the empire.
People also forget that it took us many attempts to get into the Common Market in part because De Gaulle voted against us and thought that we'd treat it as another empire and put our own and USA's interests first. My grandparents who'd been through the two World Wars were delighted when we joined. I think that they would have been saddened by Brexit as am I.

poppyzbrite4 · 08/09/2024 18:49

AsYouWiiiiiiiiiiiiish · 08/09/2024 18:46

Ah, tone is a bit hard to gauge on here.

And I agree, many people are politically lazy and don't want to put in the time.

Social media doesn't help as the algorithm turns people's feeds into echo chambers and they aren't exposed to differing opinions.

I maintain that many people didn't know exactly what they were voting for, but it was due to a combination of not spending the time to learn... and also a lot of people (and politicians) muddying the waters (lying) with bold claims and social media campaigns etc

Caveat Emptor. It's the responsibility of everyone to take their vote seriously and do their research.

The information was there, for and against for a very long time.

StarDolphins · 08/09/2024 18:48

Perplexed20 · 08/09/2024 18:42

There has been at least 4 in the last 10 days. I can get you the link to everyone if you are really that bothered.

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No thanks, I’m happy with this one!

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