If you voted for brexit did you get what you wanted?

You voted to impose restrictions, that don't apply to everyone, on your own children. My children are exempt. As are Farage's children and the kids of those rich enough for it not to matter. Like Johnson, Cameron and Rees-Mogg.

Vote Leave worked to the detriment of the UK. Even GB News viewers have cottoned on to what a mistake it was.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ugrnftrSqgE

In the same way as Brexit was Putin’s project to divide and isolate the UK from the EU, Reform (featuring the same cast of twats) also seeks to isolate the UK from international institutions such as the WHO and ECHR. It’s the same song, and the same mouth breathers will dance along to it. Imagine destroying the UK for Putin and thinking you’re being “patriotic”. The most gullible, usess idiots. Farage et al should be in the kind of prison you don’t come out of alive.

Added to which, you can use a 25w oven lamp in a lava lamp (id it has a small screw cap fitting). Doesn't melt the wax as quickly as the old 40w bulbs, but any port in a storm. Oven bulbs are easily sourced.

I actually considered this very carefully at the time.

The only 2 I could find were the one that prevents old style light bulbs being sold (for my old style lava lamp which requires heat as well as light) and not being able to buy really good red food dye to make red velvet cake.

Neither were worth losing free movement (or all the other benefits of EU membership) for.

We had a veto.

That was Jacob Rees Mogg a proponents of Brexit who following the Leave vote, got himself a business address in Dublin.

He's now working as a GB "News" presenter where he hawks his kids for views and money.🙈

Polls track it already so it's not avoided as a question. Public opinion isn't as high as pre GE

It doesn't have to be the same, the pp I assume just thought of it on the back off this thread

Given Labour haven't been able to do anything that will make much of a difference to the economy, two months in, it seems a bit premature to ask the question.

Government calculates this will increase GDP by 0.08% over 15 years.

I'm sure that will make up for the loss of quality in substandard imports. Mmmm chlorinated chicken, anyone? I'm sure U.K. farmers will welcome the competition to their already struggling industry.

Which laws were causing you issues?

People blame the downward turn in the economy and cost of living crisis on Brexit when, in fact, a lot of issues occurred due to Covid coming soon after which has affected how we live today far more than Brexit ever did.

Yes, how fortunate to be able to blame something else and ignore the fact that Brexit has so far been a disaster for the U.K.

By every metric, the G7 have outperformed the U.K. in recovery from the pandemic.

I work in construction and Brexit has been terrible for the industry (one of the largest contributors to GDP) whether it is because of a lack of labour pushing costs up, or difficulties in imported materials, projects being shelved because of rising costs.

If people want to be honest, they need to admit the problems Brexit has caused. Be happy in your decision, but do it with all the facts and stop pretending it has been a success yet.

It's a huge trading agreement meaning we don't pay import duties of lots of goods. It's worth about £113 billion per year. It's expected to create an additional 15.9 billion exports by 2040. CPTPp accounts for 15 percent of global trade and combined worth of £12 trillion a year. It means 99 percent of UK goods will be tariff free. In addition since Brexit the UK has been able to do trade deals with individual US states, Australia, New Zealand and have a deal with India hammered out too. None of which we could do in the EU.

It doesn't have to be the same, the pp I assume just thought of it on the back off this thread

I would like to ask the same question to those who voted Labour in July. Might start a thread sometime unless there is already one.

You think asking if people who voted for something 7 years ago is the same as asking someone who voted for something two months ago?

Thank you for this thoughtful, helpful post.

Many people I know, especially older ones, had been happy with the old arrangements - in which a smallish group of western European nations joined together to form a common market, or economic community.

As the Common Market changed, they became increasingly concerned about:

1. the inclusion of poorer Eastern European nations, partly because they were net beneficiaries of EU funding rather than being contributors, partly because their priorities and concerns didn't seem to have much in common with the UK's and partly because of immigration;

2. linked to that, the realisation that the more members there were, the less influence the UK had and the less power to veto new legislation;

3. concerns about "ever closer union". That of course was in the original Treaty of Rome but I don't get the impression that anyone really paid any attention to it initially. The introduction of the Euro and talks of a European army didn't help to allay concerns about loss of sovereignty;

4. the feeling that the EU introduced lots of restrictions on the way we did things which were designed to level the playing field between member states, but which were perceived to be implemented very unevenly. So, for example, the UK was considered to be very thorough in implementing the changes, "gold-plating" them in some cases, whereas other countries were thought to ignore them;

For that group of people, leaving the EU was not about economics: it was about regaining sovereignty for the UK. They saw Brexit as a long term process and consider that it is far too soon to assess its impact.

115 posts and there hasn’t been ‘not everyone who voted leave was racist but all racists voted leave’?
This must be a record - normally it comes up within the first few posts.

Sourisblanche · Today 19:54

we had loads of exemptions.

Plus a lot of EU rules were ones put forward by the UK over the years.

The question was 'if you voted for Brexit'. So why did you ?

"Wild claim"

"Any evidence?"

"Don't be silly."

Sums up Brexit.

we had loads of exemptions.

Plus a lot of EU rules were ones put forward by the UK over the years.

Vote leave was very persuasive. There were easy concrete things being sold as part of Brexit.
More money for the NHS , less immigration (more resources for the rest of the UK) It's understandable that people voted for it. The vote remain side didn't do as well.

I hate how politicians say "You voted for it," about random things in a manifesto that many don't want but got tagged onto the thing they did want. It's all a bit shit really.

What are the benefits to each UK resident of the CPTPP ?

but it’s just not true that every time the UK tried to implement our own rules to suit our own people, it was slapped down by the EU

we had loads of exemptions.

Don’t be silly. You expect me to trawl through the internet for you to get examples? It’s fact that the EU would not allow us control to set our own rules. We had to fall in with what they dictated us to do, even when it was detrimental to us as a country.

I'm glad we're finally joining the CPTPP in December 2024. We couldn't have done that whilst signed up to the EU.