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To think partner's overtime is excessive

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overtimestress · 08/09/2024 10:09

This week by the end of today, he will have worked 70 hours across 5 days (Tues-Sun). Half of those are overtime. I haven't seen him at all really all week. He's done night shifts, early mornings, late evenings... you name it. I'm parenting our toddler by myself and keeping on top of the housework, as well as working 30 hours a week in a mentally and emotionally draining job. AIBU that his is excessive? He doesn't seem to get the message. I feel like I'm drowning and just need him home more often. We don't need all of the extra money - we could get by on half of what he's doing and be comfortable. He just gets obsessed with the figures in his take home pay and it's literally destroying the family and our relationship.

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overtimestress · 08/09/2024 12:08

He's just got up to get ready and DD is just climbing all over him desperately trying to get any interaction from her daddy. It's breaking my heart, he's about to leave yet again and she's too young to understand why he's never here.😢

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MostlyHappyMummy · 08/09/2024 12:08

overtimestress · 08/09/2024 12:03

It's not but I'm not going to sit by and do nothing while he makes himself late for work, today isn't even overtime it's his normal shift

I think you aren't helping the situation by babying him but understand that it's your choice to do this so I apologise if I've offended you by mentioning this

overtimestress · 08/09/2024 12:07

@Spacecowboys he looks horrendous honestly. Nothing I say seems to be registering though. I'm at a loss now.

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Spacecowboys · 08/09/2024 12:04

70 hours a week is insane. It’s also dangerous in roles such as the police, nhs etc and also for prison workers. How is he not terrified he’ll make a mistake because he’s exhausted. I don’t think it’s sustainable for any period of time and I’m shocked his employer is allowing him to work the shift pattern you have described, even with opt out. He’ll burn out eventually.

overtimestress · 08/09/2024 12:03

It's not but I'm not going to sit by and do nothing while he makes himself late for work, today isn't even overtime it's his normal shift

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MostlyHappyMummy · 08/09/2024 11:58

Why is that your responsibility?

overtimestress · 08/09/2024 11:57

@MostlyHappyMummy because he's due at work in 30 minutes?

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MostlyHappyMummy · 08/09/2024 11:57

overtimestress · 08/09/2024 11:39

I've just had to wake him up as he's sleeping from a 13 hour night shift last night (which was overtime), as he's due back in work at 12.30 and won't finish til 9pm this evening. He looks exhausted, disoriented and unwell quite frankly. What will it take to get the message through?

Why are you waking him?

Inertia · 08/09/2024 11:52

Are your finances shared?

Who owns your home?

What would he say if you told him you needed to use family money to outsource e.g. cleaning?

It sounds very much like he doesn’t see you as a team- he’s securing his own financial future while (as a PP pointed out) you are doing his share of childcare and household labour unpaid, and he doesn’t seem bothered about a future without you and DC in it.

overtimestress · 08/09/2024 11:51

Thevelvelletes · 08/09/2024 11:49

And the added stress that those jobs have I'd be worried for his health as I'm sure that's also crossed your mind.

Absolutely. And it's the sort of job where you need to be alert and on the ball otherwise you're at risk and so are others. It's really not sustainable or safe what he's doing - for me, him or anyone else really.

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timenowplease · 08/09/2024 11:51

overtimestress · 08/09/2024 10:24

@BlueMum16 he's not operating machinery but he's working in a high risk environment

How long has this been going on?

If he's not careful he'll end up in a higher tax bracket and end up paying loads of it in tax anyway.

BlueMum16 · 08/09/2024 11:50

overtimestress · 08/09/2024 11:39

I've just had to wake him up as he's sleeping from a 13 hour night shift last night (which was overtime), as he's due back in work at 12.30 and won't finish til 9pm this evening. He looks exhausted, disoriented and unwell quite frankly. What will it take to get the message through?

You need to sit and talk about this with him.

He may think he's doing all this for you and the kids to provide things.

If you want things equal go back to work full time. He can then work his contracted hours and you will both be working equally at work and as parents.
Tell him you want balance, him at home, him as a partner, him as a dad - not disappearing at work all the time

Thevelvelletes · 08/09/2024 11:49

And the added stress that those jobs have I'd be worried for his health as I'm sure that's also crossed your mind.

DixonD · 08/09/2024 11:48

My husband is like this OP. But he would work 7 days a week and sometimes until 1am. He was obsessed with figures too.

Now he’s got a new hobby which has replaced his need to work to get out of the house. Still don’t see him and when he does come home, it’s weird having him here as we’re so used to being on our own. He’s actually just phoned me to say he’s coming home early, and I’ve told him to go out and see his family as it’s just so weird when he’s here, I don’t know what to do with myself. It’s sad, but for various reasons I can’t do anything about it right now.

My husband has always been like it, he seems to like to be always doing something.

No idea what the answer is. You can’t force someone to want to spend time with you (what’s the point?), and it’s not always easy to leave at all. In my case, it’s impossible. I have financial obligations with mine that stretch far beyond the norm and I am well and truly struck.

overtimestress · 08/09/2024 11:47

Thevelvelletes · 08/09/2024 11:42

Op you don't have to reveal obviously
But I'm guessing prison or police officer.

Yes one of these

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EveryKneeShallBow · 08/09/2024 11:45

I know of someone locally, young man, own business allied to agriculture. He thought he had the world at his feet. He worked all the hours, and also partied, hard. Drank energy drinks alll day long to keep him going, and took drugs at parties after work. His business was, indeed, successful, and he was a well known local character who many seemed to admire for his laddish, crazy life. In spring this year, he suffered a massive heart attack and died on the job. He left a partner and two small children. It’s just not worth it.

Thevelvelletes · 08/09/2024 11:42

Op you don't have to reveal obviously
But I'm guessing prison or police officer.

Coolblur · 08/09/2024 11:42

overtimestress · 08/09/2024 11:21

If I increased to full time we'd have an extra £550 a month. His overtime on an average month ad it stands brings in an extra £1000-1200 per month. So he's still bringing him double what it would be if we sacked off his overtime in favour of me increasing to FT. The other way of solving this is, he just halves his overtime hours to bring in roughly what my FT wage would? Takes the pressure off us both that way. We are both in agreement with me working 4 days a week until our daughter starts school - neither of us wanted her to be in nursery full time unless it was absolutely necessary, and financially it isn't.

I don't think you are in agreement tbh. It isn't working for either of you.
You can't have your cake and eat it, that applies to both of you. You both want/need/like the extra money, but you both want/need/like you to work PT.
You need to discuss this and reassess your finances.
I think it's important to remember that you cannot buy time. It's important for him to have more time with his family, particularly his young child. So what could you cut to afford it? Or how could you both bring in extra income?

I say this as the sole earner in our household. DH isn't working for health reasons. I can earn a huge amount for working overtime, which is almost always available. It's tempting to work a lot, but I only do it occasionally as I'd rather be at home with my family. Besides, DH needs the support.
We cut our cloth accordingly. I suggest you do the same.

sunsetsandboardwalks · 08/09/2024 11:42

overtimestress · 08/09/2024 11:39

I've just had to wake him up as he's sleeping from a 13 hour night shift last night (which was overtime), as he's due back in work at 12.30 and won't finish til 9pm this evening. He looks exhausted, disoriented and unwell quite frankly. What will it take to get the message through?

I don't think he will get the message while you carry on supporting it, to be honest. Maybe tell him you have plans on his day off and he'll need to arrange childcare if he wants to work? Make it an inconvenience rather than something he has support for?

overtimestress · 08/09/2024 11:39

I've just had to wake him up as he's sleeping from a 13 hour night shift last night (which was overtime), as he's due back in work at 12.30 and won't finish til 9pm this evening. He looks exhausted, disoriented and unwell quite frankly. What will it take to get the message through?

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workworkworkblahblahblah · 08/09/2024 11:39

Lots of employers make opting out of the working time directive a condition of employment now, so it's a shit law

CheeryUser · 08/09/2024 11:39

This sounds like a line of work I know well. Often exceed 70 hour weeks but over six days, you are supposed to have 11 hours off between shifts but if you feel ok then you’re “allowed” to come in earlier. Very high pressure, very short staffing and often there is nobody else to ask so you either choose to go in or leave your colleagues short. It’s hard work with teens so must be a nightmare with very young children when you’re leaving someone else to pick up the pieces.

Bumblebeestiltskin · 08/09/2024 11:39

overtimestress · 08/09/2024 11:36

I did point this out to him. He sort of shrugged. Very little response tbh.

OK so it sounds like he doesn't care, so your choices are deal with it (which you shouldn't have to do) or actually leave/end the relationship.

Being a single parent isn't necessarily easy, but I guarantee it'll be easier on you than your current situation is! I co-parent with my daughter's dad, in between working and parenting I also get time to myself, so can have plenty of stress-free quality time with her.

sunsetsandboardwalks · 08/09/2024 11:37

overtimestress · 08/09/2024 11:35

@sunsetsandboardwalks
Without revealing his employer, I'd say it's highly unlikely there will ever be a shortage of overtime. It's a chronically short staffed industry, always has been and is getting worse.

Fair enough, I guess I can just see how it could be quite stressful to be the breadwinner who is also relying on OT just to cover the necessities.

Not that it's easy for you either, but just trying to see it from his viewpoint too.

overtimestress · 08/09/2024 11:36

Bumblebeestiltskin · 08/09/2024 11:32

Does he realise that if you left, he wouldn't be able to do all that overtime because he'd be having to parent on his own (up to 50% of the time depending on what you agreed).

I did point this out to him. He sort of shrugged. Very little response tbh.

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