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To not invite dad’s GF to my wedding?

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CrypticElliptical · 07/09/2024 18:07

My boyfriend proposed last month, and we’re just starting wedding planning for next year. We’ll marry in his native country as it’s cheaper and he has elderly grandparents who won’t travel but who we very much want to be part of our day.

My native country is on the other side of the world. My parents will both be travelling around 30 hours to get there, as will my siblings and much younger grandparents, plus hopefully a few friends from my youth. Here’s the thing: my parents are in the middle of divorcing (after first separating little under a decade ago and then getting back together briefly). Since last year, dad’s had a new girlfriend, who I have not met. When he announced this, my mum spent over a month in tears and still has breakdowns over the idea this woman is stealing her family. (Their split was due to my dad’s infidelity, or rather, that’s the polite version). It’s toxic and I’m sympathetic to my mum but she also can’t see how her behaviour, such as telling my sibling and me all the gory details of why they’re divorcing, makes like traumatic and difficult for everyone else, and she can be volatile.

When I announced I was engaged, dad was delighted for me and said “Gloria” was looking forward to a trip to Europe and to taking him to Spain as an add-on to the holiday. But I’m leaning towards not inviting her because I want an stress-free day and I’ve never met the woman. Do I have to invite her? I get that from my dad’s perspective it’s crap to travel this far without your partner. I’m pleased for him that he’s found someone. I’d even be up for her coming to the country we’re marrying in and having dinner or something separately, I can just see all manner of hell being unleashed by my mum if she comes (plus, I just think my mum would be stressed and as mad as she is, I love her and she’s been badly hurt). Also, they won’t be paying for the wedding; I will. WWYD?

YANBU - don’t invite the GF
YABU - it’s unfair to your dad

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Jumpers4goalposts · 09/09/2024 08:03

OrangeTeabags · 09/09/2024 06:39

In most situations it might be "normal" but, as the OP says, this is not a typical situation and she knows it will cause tension on her special day.
Lots of people seem very cross that the OP's mum is still upset at the ending of her marriage and not coping so well but that's the reality of it.
Whether people think she "should be" over it all by now or not, the fact is that she clearly isn't so even if a relationship of a year is now officially a forever one or whatever your arbitrary rule is, inviting the father and his gf will create a difficult, messy situation which could be avoided by not inviting her.

Or rather than prioritising the DM’s feelings we can all be grown up about it and deal with it because it’s just one day.

CrypticElliptical · 09/09/2024 07:31

OrangeTeabags · 09/09/2024 07:11

I think what you have said here explains your mum's feelings & reaction.
Your insensitive father trying to force his gf on your siblings in this way - no wonder your mum feels like she is being replaced.

Does she live near them all to witness this in person?

And, let me guess, is Gloria much younger?
It surely doesn't take much to see why your mum is struggling with all this?
You are in control of your wedding so do what will make you feel most comfortable on the day and if you think inviting the gf will upset your mum & make you worry about her all day then just don't. You don't have to.

They all live quite close and have to have a reasonable amount of regular contact.

Gloria is the same age as my dad/slightly older than mum actually and has plenty of baggage of her own!

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OrangeTeabags · 09/09/2024 07:11

CrypticElliptical · 09/09/2024 00:07

Yeah I think there is some evidence from my sibs who live in the same country as my parents that dad is trying to play happy families and include the GF in everything (Christmas ructions have already begun), but being abroad I largely avoid it. I would potentially struggle if I had to interact more: it’s great for my dad to have found someone but I’m not in the market for any additional maternal influence and I have nothing against her, but I’m just not hugely interested. My family is stressful enough already. An additional complication with putting this to my dad is he doesn’t actually know I know about his transgressions (my mum isn’t lying, I have spoken to another family member about it who is more level headed). But maybe now is as good a time as any, and necessary to have the conversation.

I think what you have said here explains your mum's feelings & reaction.
Your insensitive father trying to force his gf on your siblings in this way - no wonder your mum feels like she is being replaced.

Does she live near them all to witness this in person?

And, let me guess, is Gloria much younger?
It surely doesn't take much to see why your mum is struggling with all this?
You are in control of your wedding so do what will make you feel most comfortable on the day and if you think inviting the gf will upset your mum & make you worry about her all day then just don't. You don't have to.

ThePrologue · 09/09/2024 06:55

CrypticElliptical · 07/09/2024 18:13

No, and she is convinced no man will ever be with her again with the amount of baggage she has. They split over historical infidelity, when mum found out he had shagged someone very close to her (I’m simplifying and it’s very complicated, there are other people I’m torn over inviting but this is the main one)

Why even consider inviting people you are not sure about?
I never understand this attitude; it is your wedding, you are paying, you do not have to invite anyone you don't want
If anyone challenges you, simply say 'i don't want them at my wedding'. No explanations required.
If you haven't met the gf, don't invite her. She can travel with your dad if he wants, but she'll have to amuse herself for the day
You've only just started planning. Get this addressed now before it becomes out of control

CrochetForLife · 09/09/2024 06:46

olympicsrock · 09/09/2024 06:42

Those saying the mum should suck it up have clearly never witnessed the devastation felt by a woman whose husband of 30 years in unfaithful. It’s not something you get over quickly .

We don't even know that his current girlfriend had anything to do with the affair. From what the OP says, the affair was years ago and the current girlfriend wasn't involved and is innocent.

olympicsrock · 09/09/2024 06:42

Those saying the mum should suck it up have clearly never witnessed the devastation felt by a woman whose husband of 30 years in unfaithful. It’s not something you get over quickly .

OrangeTeabags · 09/09/2024 06:39

Jumpers4goalposts · 09/09/2024 06:15

@HelpAGirlOut1234 a year because it shows a level of commitment. It’s not about them breaking up or not. I think it’s pretty normal after a period of time to start inviting a new partner to family functions.

In most situations it might be "normal" but, as the OP says, this is not a typical situation and she knows it will cause tension on her special day.
Lots of people seem very cross that the OP's mum is still upset at the ending of her marriage and not coping so well but that's the reality of it.
Whether people think she "should be" over it all by now or not, the fact is that she clearly isn't so even if a relationship of a year is now officially a forever one or whatever your arbitrary rule is, inviting the father and his gf will create a difficult, messy situation which could be avoided by not inviting her.

autienotnaughty · 09/09/2024 06:20

If you don't want someone you have never met at the wedding that's completely valid. I'd speak to your father and explain you're happy to meet her over that period but she's not coming to the wedding itself. Both your parents should be thinking about you in this situation

Jumpers4goalposts · 09/09/2024 06:15

@HelpAGirlOut1234 a year because it shows a level of commitment. It’s not about them breaking up or not. I think it’s pretty normal after a period of time to start inviting a new partner to family functions.

Minniemeandothers · 09/09/2024 00:12

I am going to vote for not inviting her, you never met her, surely your father should be the one being less selfish and should know that bringing yet another woman in the mix on his daughter’s special day will bring more stress for all of you.

CrypticElliptical · 09/09/2024 00:09

Thanks to everyone who has commented btw either way. I have read every post and it’s been great food for thought. My family situation has always been a bit alternative and stressful, my siblings and I have been through a lot. Trying to break the cycle and make positive memories now, and it’s not an easy journey.

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HelpAGirlOut1234 · 09/09/2024 00:09

@Jumpers4goalposts why the arbitrary time frame of a year? It's not like after a year they're never going to break up? More relationships than not end after people have been together a year.

And 'the fact is' the OP does not know this woman, so why would she want her at her wedding? Her parents relationship ended less than 2 years ago, why would OP be happy with him bringing one of his girlfriends to her wedding and have him rubbing his relationships, and therefore past affairs, in OPs mothers face?

CrypticElliptical · 09/09/2024 00:07

OrangeTeabags · 08/09/2024 22:02

Yes, because that would work, just keep them apart. What utter nonsense!

She won't be part of the OP's life, she never sees her dad which is why she hasn't met the gf yet.
And the OP is an adult, she doesn't need a step mum. It sounds like this woman will always just be her dad's gf who she never sees.

Yeah I think there is some evidence from my sibs who live in the same country as my parents that dad is trying to play happy families and include the GF in everything (Christmas ructions have already begun), but being abroad I largely avoid it. I would potentially struggle if I had to interact more: it’s great for my dad to have found someone but I’m not in the market for any additional maternal influence and I have nothing against her, but I’m just not hugely interested. My family is stressful enough already. An additional complication with putting this to my dad is he doesn’t actually know I know about his transgressions (my mum isn’t lying, I have spoken to another family member about it who is more level headed). But maybe now is as good a time as any, and necessary to have the conversation.

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Jumpers4goalposts · 08/09/2024 23:58

OrangeTeabags · 08/09/2024 22:02

Yes, because that would work, just keep them apart. What utter nonsense!

She won't be part of the OP's life, she never sees her dad which is why she hasn't met the gf yet.
And the OP is an adult, she doesn't need a step mum. It sounds like this woman will always just be her dad's gf who she never sees.

It’s what happened at my parents wedding with my grandparents and it worked. So not utter nonsense.

It seems as the OP has no particular issue with her DF’s girlfriend and I expect if the DM was not around she would be invited no issue. The fact is if longer than a year the girlfriend is a big part of the DF’s life, DM needs to accept it and move on herself.

HelpAGirlOut1234 · 08/09/2024 23:35

RecklessGoddess · 08/09/2024 23:32

I think it's completely unfair for your father to expect you to meet his gf for the first time, at your own wedding. He must know it's going to cause problems with your mum being there too. I think you need to talk to both of your parents and try to work out something that you can all agree on. Like maybe his gf comes to the reception, but not the ceremony?

Or maybe her father realises that this is his daughter's wedding and leaves the random GF behind for one day and doesn't make any of this an issue for OP and her fiancé? The OP has never met the GF, and is likely not to have any sort of relationship with her if she hasn't even seen her father in person in 18months. Why would she invite this random woman to her wedding? Particularly if it would upset the mother she says she loves a great deal?

RecklessGoddess · 08/09/2024 23:32

I think it's completely unfair for your father to expect you to meet his gf for the first time, at your own wedding. He must know it's going to cause problems with your mum being there too. I think you need to talk to both of your parents and try to work out something that you can all agree on. Like maybe his gf comes to the reception, but not the ceremony?

OrangeTeabags · 08/09/2024 22:02

Jumpers4goalposts · 08/09/2024 20:07

I think if you DF has been with new GF for a year or more invite her, it’s probably serious and she’ll be part of your life. Just tell DF to keep GF away from DM.

Yes, because that would work, just keep them apart. What utter nonsense!

She won't be part of the OP's life, she never sees her dad which is why she hasn't met the gf yet.
And the OP is an adult, she doesn't need a step mum. It sounds like this woman will always just be her dad's gf who she never sees.

Havinganamechange · 08/09/2024 20:59

Why would you invite someone you don’t know just because there are your dad’s latest GF? I can’t imagine upsetting my mum by doing that. It’s one day, can’t your dad cope on his own for one day?

User68 · 08/09/2024 20:22

I’d invite dad to the day only (as she’s a fairly new partner at the moment) and she travel with him for the trip anyhow as it’s only 1-day for the actual wedding. Perhaps you could have dinner with them separately. Seems like their 2nd separation is more recent (2022 if I’ve read that right) so could still be a bit raw for your mum.

Jumpers4goalposts · 08/09/2024 20:07

I think if you DF has been with new GF for a year or more invite her, it’s probably serious and she’ll be part of your life. Just tell DF to keep GF away from DM.

pineapplesundae · 08/09/2024 19:17

Have a talk with your father. He knows your mother is not ready for a girlfriend and he should be the grownup and not bring her to your wedding so as not to cause a scene.

Pippetypoppity · 08/09/2024 19:05

Honestly it’s completely irrelevant if anyone on here thinks your mum should put up with it for the day. The fact is she won’t. On top of the emotion of a daughter marrying she inevitably won’t handle it well. Even if she tries her hardest for your sake, you’re still going to spend the day watching out for her and checking over your shoulder. Why do this to yourself. She’s your mum and you clearly care deeply. You can’t just switch that off. It’ll spoil your day to see her stifling her misery/ faking a brave face/ getting overcome. Don’t do this to yourself. It’s your day. Hopefully the only wedding you’ll ever have. It’s about you and Dp not your dad, dads girlfriend- or in fact anyone else at all. Don’t invite trouble and avoid avoid avoid any unnecessary upset. Have a fabulous day Op.

HelpAGirlOut1234 · 08/09/2024 19:05

SnozPoz · 08/09/2024 18:02

Did you say your parents have been separated for ten years? Your mum needs counselling. Your dad is also being presumptuous thinking his girlfriend is invited if you've never met her. Tell your mum to sort herself out. Tell your dad your fears. Don't expect the girlfriend to come on holiday and not come to the wedding... that's plain rude.

The parents finally separated in 2022, which really isn't that long ago given they were likely together for a very long time.

FanfictionFan · 08/09/2024 18:24

When I told my mum I was getting married she demanded to bring her married lover to which I told her not a bloody chance because she was P'ing on the sanctity of marriage, obviouslyshe wasn't happy but she had a choice come to her daughter's wedding or not. Only you and your fiancé can decide who goes to your wedding if it ruffles feathers then you need to decide if you can deal with the fallout.

Good luck with your wedding planning x

MillyMollyMandHey · 08/09/2024 18:12

SnozPoz · 08/09/2024 18:02

Did you say your parents have been separated for ten years? Your mum needs counselling. Your dad is also being presumptuous thinking his girlfriend is invited if you've never met her. Tell your mum to sort herself out. Tell your dad your fears. Don't expect the girlfriend to come on holiday and not come to the wedding... that's plain rude.

It's not been as long as that, but I agree the mum needs counselling. Especially as the previous breakup seems to have been with them reuniting as she had a nervous breakdown.

Losing the plot at a new, completely unrelated new GF in this way is extreme. She isn't stealing any family either.