Valentina Petrillo shouldn't be allowed to compete in the women's race

stripy, I also think we are campaigning very hard to make the changes to the regulations. So very very hard.

What strikes me is that there was a male skier, Erik Schinegger, who upon discovering that he was a male person with a difference of sex development that led to him being registered as female when he was born, and he was disqualified on that basis, went and competed as a male in male events. He also returned his championships etc.

That man’s actions showed me that these athletes have the agency to make decisions that respect other athletes as well as show self respect.

By now, I have seen so many male
athletes declare that they have understood that their inclusion is controversial. They know female athletes and people in general are complaining that this is fair, because they mention it in the many media articles they feature in. Incidentally, articles they feature in vs very little media coverage of the boring old female sexed athletes, if you get my meaning.

I don’t believe any male athlete is competing in female sports categories without understanding that experts have stated that it is unfair. Even Dr Richard Budgett of the IOC publicly acknowledged it was an unfair policy, but he then stated that the IOC chose inclusion over fairness.

edited to make it two posts.

As a couple of people have already pointed out, it's the governing bodies of each sport who make the rules about whether male transgender athletes (and athletes with DSDs) can compete in female competitions. It's not the IPC's decision (and it's IPC not the IOC who run the Paralympics. They are completely separate organisations).

That said, he absolutely should not be competing in women's races, and world para athletics really needs to changes its rules. But if people are quite rightly angry about this, they need to be getting angry at the right organisation.

I don't care if he "transitioned" 27 years ago. That process has no meaning in sport and little meaning outside of sport. He's a man. A man who has transitioned is a man.
I used to have some sympathy and a vestige of kindness . That's gone. Rapists in women's prisons. Men beating up women for prizes. Disabled women told to move over and lose for creeps like this.
This is my No.

Thank goodness we are now allowed to speak in some biological fact and not completely shut up by the gender ideologists

My view personally is that even a year ago this thread would not have been allowed to stand on MN alone- and if it were to be allowed it would have more holes than swiss cheese with all the deletions for the posters who point out this person is a man.

So that's possibly a sign of things changing right there. I woke up this morning having expected the thread to have vanished.

Yes hive it 10 years

This is the kind of shit that people look back on and say 'How could it happen? How could no one see reality?'

Of course he shouldn't.
It's absolutely ridiculous.

Indeed these males are very entitled, it's their right to shove women aside and take. Says it all really.

I wouldn't but I wouldn't be cheating if I did. If I meet the criteria it's the criteria that need changing.

Thanks for taking the time to write that out. Personally I feel with something like this it's best to attack/address the system rather than the person. But your post has made me think so I genuinely thank you for that.

What about if you could compete as someone able bodied but you could enter one of the disabled categories because of a legal loophole, would you?

This. You probably could claim things you aren't entitled to because they are meant to improve equity for disadvantaged groups, because they are based on self ID @stripybobblehat but you wouldn't, would you?

You are technically correct, because it is within the current regulations.

What would you call the actions of an adult who has full capacity to read the now mounting evidence that shows very clearly that suppression of testosterone doesn’t remove male pubertal advantage, and who can read and listen to the now many voices saying this is unfair and indeed acknowledges that they hear those voices, but still enters sports where they have these advantages?

What do you call a male person who when they read articles written about themselves, reads the evidence presented by experts also mentioned in the article but continues enter sports where they have male pubertal advantages?

What do you call a male person who complains that they are excluded from the female changing rooms and given a separate room for their use, but still enters a sport competition meant to be just for female people?

Sure the regulations say it is possible? But you remove the agency of this male person to act with respect towards female athletes but declaring it is the regulations to blame.

If you could compete, by the regulations, in a race for children and claim positive fame and prize money, would you? What about if you could compete as someone able bodied but you could enter one of the disabled categories because of a legal loophole, would you?

And if you did either of these things, do you think anyone should celebrate your achievement? Or could we point out that you have morally cheated?

I read a comment on an Italian site ‘Una Donna con un pacco a sorpresa’ 🤣🤣🤣🤣 pacco in Italian means both parcel/box and dick, so ‘a woman with a surprise present/surprise dick.’ Hum, the translation doesn’t flow as smoothly…

they were a male athlete
if they wanted to change gender they should give up athletics instead of ruining it for women

The athlete isn't cheating. The rules allow them to compete. If there's an issue with the rules then sure that needs addressing.

Wow. What an achievement to be probably going through the menopause at that age and still being able to compete against women much younger. How inspiring! How stunning! How brave!

oh wait ……this is just another male CHEAT.

so unfair
why should women make way

I think the IOC is actually ideologically captured rather than they don't know what to do - they are pushing this agenda wherever there is no protection of a governing sports body.

He's a nasty cheat.

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You are being unreasonable calling him she . He is male , end of ,and no it’s not fair.

There's a thread on Ovarit about him. He's just another degenerate, cheating man with a history of stealing women's clothes and trapping a woman in marriage.

ovarit.com/o/GenderCritical/600834/transgender-athlete-valentina-petrillo-shares-photos-from-before-she-transitione

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