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Am I a cf for asking a farmer this question?

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Whye · 07/09/2024 15:18

We want to buy a house which is off a rarely used but fast winding country lane - only wide enough for one car. The speed limit is 30 but we have seen cars zooming along. I would not feel safe walking my dog on these country roads. There are some woods nearby but I would probably have to load dogs up each time for the 2 min drive.

There are fields all around. Would I be cheeky to ask the farmer who owns the fields opposite us if I could potentially walk my dogs on the perimeter of his fields, obviously I will pick up messes and be respectful.

We would be 5 mins from a decent sized market town so there are plenty of options just not convenient. Am I being cheeky?

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D12troop · 07/09/2024 17:21

OP I'd just ignore the naysayers and ask the farmer if it's possible. You'd be neighbours and theres every chance he'd be OK with your suggestion. If its used for crops there's probably a wideish periphery around the field where he wouldnt plough anyway.

WilliamFaulkner · 07/09/2024 17:21

I’m a farmer and I’d say s very firm ‘no’, I’m afraid. It would add to our liability and potentially create a precedent. Farms are not parks and windy roads are part of rural living.

Werweisswohin · 07/09/2024 17:21

DappledThings · 07/09/2024 17:18

I still don't think that's cheeky to ask. As long as it's a genuine request and not a demand dressed up as a question.

Right, well it IS cheeky to ask some questions.

Autumn1990 · 07/09/2024 17:19

Fairly isolated houses with no where to walk do put purchasers off so you have to think about resale.
Keep looking and find another house. I dismissed so many like this. We are now more rural, still off a busy lane but with a bit of land of our own so we just walk on our bit! And it wasn’t more expensive than he other options

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 07/09/2024 17:18

DappledThings · 07/09/2024 17:14

And for that reason the farmer would 9f course similarly not be rude or entitled etc to say no.

The way people feel just having conversations with people is rude is very weird.

I've knocked on your door.

Hello. I'm thinking of buying the house next to you. But I don't want to walk on the road or drive the dogs to a walk, so would you mind if I just walked round your land instead? I probably won't buy next door if you say no.

Now, it might not be rude to ask the question. But you say no, and then as you close the door what are you thinking? What a strange woman. Why would she ask that? Why would she think that's ok? Did she expect me to say yes? I wonder why? How bizarre.

DappledThings · 07/09/2024 17:18

Werweisswohin · 07/09/2024 17:16

It's definitely cheeky to ask some things.
'Can I borrow your wheelbarrow for a couple of hours?' versus 'Could you drive me to work every day for the next two weeks?'
'Could I borrow come in to your garden to trim my hedge?' versus 'Can you cut my grass every time you do yours?'

I still don't think that's cheeky to ask. As long as it's a genuine request and not a demand dressed up as a question.

Werweisswohin · 07/09/2024 17:16

DappledThings · 07/09/2024 17:12

Cheeky? No. A bit weird, yes.

If you turned up on her doorstep and forced your way in then yes. Asking for anything isn't rude. Unless illegal or immoral.

It's definitely cheeky to ask some things.
'Can I borrow your wheelbarrow for a couple of hours?' versus 'Could you drive me to work every day for the next two weeks?'
'Could I borrow come in to your garden to trim my hedge?' versus 'Can you cut my grass every time you do yours?'

AhaHa · 07/09/2024 17:15

I wouldn’t buy a house if it was contingent on neighbours allowing you to regularly inconvenience them.

Tel12 · 07/09/2024 17:14

Farmers around here are fine with dog walkers. Just ask.

DappledThings · 07/09/2024 17:14

ZiriForGood · 07/09/2024 17:04

Hint:
There is a big difference between asking about something one-off, which can be supervised by the other party and will be just done and over. The dog walking is something long term, which might inspire others to ask (or just do) the same and with high probability of creeping on the boundaries over and over again.

And for that reason the farmer would 9f course similarly not be rude or entitled etc to say no.

The way people feel just having conversations with people is rude is very weird.

DappledThings · 07/09/2024 17:12

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 07/09/2024 17:09

Don't forget she's a brand new neighbour you've never met, and you may not be neighbours if she says no.

Cheeky? No. A bit weird, yes.

If you turned up on her doorstep and forced your way in then yes. Asking for anything isn't rude. Unless illegal or immoral.

Werweisswohin · 07/09/2024 17:11

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 07/09/2024 17:09

Don't forget she's a brand new neighbour you've never met, and you may not be neighbours if she says no.

Oh yes, and I can't move in unless she agrees.....

.....though please don't start me on my two CF near neighbours (the rest are fine)....

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 07/09/2024 17:09

Werweisswohin · 07/09/2024 17:08

Ok, my sofa is a bit creaky and needs replaced but it's too much effort to order a new one - would I be a CF to ask my neighbour if I could just sit on hers to watch the 6 o'clock news every night going forward? I'll not take up much space and she doesn't appear to be using the lefthand side anwyway.

Don't forget she's a brand new neighbour you've never met, and you may not be neighbours if she says no.

Werweisswohin · 07/09/2024 17:08

DappledThings · 07/09/2024 17:03

Well people have called all three questions rude, entitled etc in equal measure. I don't think asking a question is ever rude. Unless it's something actually illegal or entirely immoral.

Demanding or expecting are entirely different.

Ok, my sofa is a bit creaky and needs replaced but it's too much effort to order a new one - would I be a CF to ask my neighbour if I could just sit on hers to watch the 6 o'clock news every night going forward? I'll not take up much space and she doesn't appear to be using the lefthand side anwyway.

ZiriForGood · 07/09/2024 17:04

DappledThings · 07/09/2024 16:53

I can't see any difference particularly between the types of question. Even if I could it still doesn't make the act of asking cheeky, rude, entitled, ignorant or any of the other things OP is accused of.

Hint:
There is a big difference between asking about something one-off, which can be supervised by the other party and will be just done and over. The dog walking is something long term, which might inspire others to ask (or just do) the same and with high probability of creeping on the boundaries over and over again.

DappledThings · 07/09/2024 17:03

Werweisswohin · 07/09/2024 16:55

There IS a difference, you not seeing it doesn't mean it's not there.

Well people have called all three questions rude, entitled etc in equal measure. I don't think asking a question is ever rude. Unless it's something actually illegal or entirely immoral.

Demanding or expecting are entirely different.

Miyagi99 · 07/09/2024 17:02

Whye · 07/09/2024 16:37

Pavements. I like walking my two chunky (and aging) golden retrievers on pavements. Chucking ourselves into hedges whenever a car pasts us sounds far from ideal. I’m fairly Inflexible on this hence why I was considering asking the question.

Definitely don’t move to the countryside, not many pavements I’m afraid. You do get used to it, I go dog walking and jogging down them but I drew the line at taking a pushchair so was quite limited then, luckily only for a couple of years and some lanes are wider than others.

ButterCrackers · 07/09/2024 17:01

The land is the livelihood of the farmer so don’t ask if you can walk your dogs over his business property.

Werweisswohin · 07/09/2024 17:00

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 07/09/2024 16:57

You said "the numpties on here are not those who understand rural life". Blanket statement, which sounds like you're calling everyone on the thread numpties.

Apologies if I misinterpreted, but that's how it reads.

Edited

You misinterpreted.
I mean that the numpties are those who clearly don't understand rural life, and are making silly comments based on that. HTH.

Lizzie67384 · 07/09/2024 16:59

D12troop · 07/09/2024 16:56

Yes when your field is massive and flanked by houses, he wasnt averse to people extending gardens a bit. Nothing formally agreed of course. Could perhaps claim it back if ever needed.

That sounds very odd - surprised he didn’t suggest selling off parcels of land, rather than giving it away for free 🤣

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 07/09/2024 16:57

Werweisswohin · 07/09/2024 16:54

Eh?
I said those who understand rural life are not numpties. You presumably understand rural life and thus are not a numpty. 😁

You said "the numpties on here are not those who understand rural life". Blanket statement, which sounds like you're calling everyone on the thread numpties.

Apologies if I misinterpreted, but that's how it reads.

D12troop · 07/09/2024 16:56

Lizzie67384 · 07/09/2024 16:54

He gave them some land for free and didn’t mind? 😬

Yes when your field is massive and flanked by houses, he wasnt averse to people extending gardens a bit. Nothing formally agreed of course. Could perhaps claim it back if ever needed.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 07/09/2024 16:55

Whye · 07/09/2024 16:53

Okay, my dogs rarely use the entirety of a flexi lead. They are literally a step and a bit ahead of me. I just don’t like the non flexi long leads as they get mucky and are a pain.

Edited

The problem, for me, is that you say that you'd be responsible and considerate etc, but then talk about them having the freedom to explore on 1.5m flexis, which to a farmer isn't being considerate of their working fields.

You need to understand what it is you're asking. You're asking to be allowed access to the thing that makes their living. Unless you can guarantee that you won't impact the crops whatsoever, the farmer is going to have that worry when a stranger asks them for this.

Werweisswohin · 07/09/2024 16:55

DappledThings · 07/09/2024 16:53

I can't see any difference particularly between the types of question. Even if I could it still doesn't make the act of asking cheeky, rude, entitled, ignorant or any of the other things OP is accused of.

There IS a difference, you not seeing it doesn't mean it's not there.

Werweisswohin · 07/09/2024 16:54

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 07/09/2024 16:52

Some of us "numpties" do. Some of us grew up in tiny farming villages with half the family working as farm hands.

Eh?
I said those who understand rural life are not numpties. You presumably understand rural life and thus are not a numpty. 😁

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