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What age is appropriate for school friend sleepovers?

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StrawberryTartIet · 07/09/2024 14:53

My DC aged 10 has slept at Grandparents and a friends house who lives a few doors down from us that we are all friends as grown ups to. I don't allow school friend sleepovers yet. It's becoming difficult as school best friend has slept at ours but I don't want my daughter to go to their yet but they are asking. I know the parents and they havent done amything to bother me but I just dont feel comfortable handing my child to them overnight! I feel the risk of SA is not worth it, however upset she is mow it would be worse to find out she was placed at risk of SA!

But what age do we have to ignore our fears!!?

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Soldieringnonosoldiershere · 07/09/2024 21:05

I am in the police and I will never, ever, ever allow sleepovers, ever. The sad thing is there's no certain type of person who we can really say is or isn't safe and the risk isn't worth it IMO

I mean, fucking hell, many people in the police have been proven to be rapists, murderers etc. Maybe some of us mix in better circles than the police

Guavafish1 · 07/09/2024 21:05

Just say no

poptake · 07/09/2024 21:03

One of the kids we've had stay over has a parent in the police, either they didn't get the memo, or we are clearly very trust worthy looking Grin

Soldieringnonosoldiershere · 07/09/2024 21:02

I remember reading an article by someone who investigated or researched or something like that- child sexual abuse. It included references to multiple other professionals and research saying the same sort of thing. CSA is usually done by people the family know well they groom the whole family as they need the parents trust to do it. The person who wrote the article said they would never allow sleepovers even if it's seen as unfair to the kid it's just not worth the risk. That has stuck with me. I think I may allow sleepovers for teenagers but until then I'm going to be the mean parent who says sleepovers at home only.

what if your husband is the groomer?

poptake · 07/09/2024 21:02

@RedRidingGood my point is simply that it's a slippery slope argument, every decision we take as parents is risk based to some degree, you accept or avoid one risk but then have to accept the downside to it. If you take a very risk averse approach, your child will be missing out on something. I suspect most of the very binary approach parents here yet haven't gotten to the stage or opportunity of the child asking to participate, I do wonder if it will feel that black and white when they come to it.

Nataliaa · 07/09/2024 21:01

RedRidingGood · 07/09/2024 21:00

@Nataliaa exactly! They're so many other ways to socialize.

Our poor anxiety riddled children with absolutely no hope in the world because we banned sleepovers in their pre teen years 😂

RedRidingGood · 07/09/2024 21:00

@Nataliaa exactly! They're so many other ways to socialize.

FastFood · 07/09/2024 21:00

How sad it is to be a kid today.
No wonder they're all depressed and anxious.

Nataliaa · 07/09/2024 21:00

Soldieringnonosoldiershere · 07/09/2024 20:58

Poor kid @Jellybeanbag. you’re setting them up for a life of anxiety, non independence and social exclusion.

do you yourself have friends?

Why on earth would you jump to that conclusion? Not letting your young child SLEEP at another persons house is hardly going to ruin their lives is it. Presumably they still see and play with other children 😂 why do they need to sleep in someone else’s house to gain this independence and great social skills lol

poptake · 07/09/2024 20:59

I am not against sleepovers for primary school age kids under 8, just don't think they "need" them as some parents portray.

My kids don't "need" holidays, or birthday parties, hugs or toys. I don't know about you, but I've set the bar for my children's childhoods a little higher than meeting their basic needs.

RedRidingGood · 07/09/2024 20:58

poptake · 07/09/2024 20:47

You never really know people. Thinking of the French rape case as an example.

Do you never go on a plane due to historic terrorist attacks? You never know.

When it comes to my child, I'll decide thank you. Doesn't make me a bad parent. There are many ways a child can socialize. Don't see the need to shame a mother/parent for their decisions.
By the way, I'm an immigrant in this country and I got here by plane, so yes I do travel.

Soldieringnonosoldiershere · 07/09/2024 20:58

Poor kid @Jellybeanbag. you’re setting them up for a life of anxiety, non independence and social exclusion.

do you yourself have friends?

Nataliaa · 07/09/2024 20:57

Tomorrowisyesterday · 07/09/2024 20:56

It's not "the police" though it's one person in the police.

If you know anyone in the police ask them. Same with social workers. You will find it’s the majority that would agree

Tomorrowisyesterday · 07/09/2024 20:56

Nataliaa · 07/09/2024 20:51

Everyone needs to read this. If the POLICE wouldn’t do it, take note!! It’s not worth the risk!!

It's not "the police" though it's one person in the police.

ChickAndTheDuck · 07/09/2024 20:55

@Nataliaa That actually happened not far from where I live. Tragic story. Thankfully incredibly rare though. It wouldn't have put me off letting my children have sleepovers, they used to have so much fun doing it. Likewise, when I was a child, so many great memories.

IOYOYO · 07/09/2024 20:55

Of course I want to protect my children, but I also believe that fostering a wider relationship with trusted friends has an array of benefits for everyone. Growing children thrive with gradual, thoughtful independence…it’s on that basis that my dd has been having sleepovers with friends from 7. All families are local family friends who I know well and we reciprocate. Fears over SA and other types can loom large but I don’t believe the threat is so big that it should blight our lives and make them smaller. There’s always a balanced decision to be made and I’m putting my faith in trusting that my child is safe in my community of friends.

AliasGrape · 07/09/2024 20:54

DD is only 4 and it’s not come up yet, but I can’t imagine allowing them during primary age range.

RedRidingGood · 07/09/2024 20:53

BranstonPickleAndNikNaks · 07/09/2024 20:23

My DC are small so this isn't yet an issue, but we won't be doing sleepovers.
My neice was sexually abused aged 7 by a friend's older brother at a sleepover. I was groomed over a couple of years by a friend's dad - a very trusted friend of my parents- when I was a pre-teen. This included a lot of grey area type activity during sleepovers - (clothed) back massages, or my friend and I would be sitting on the sofa watching a movie and he would come and snuggle up with us both, lots of just slightly inappropriate compliments and presents - before progressing to more obviously inappropriate/abusive activity. But the initial stuff was so insidious, and explainable, and he was such a close family friend, I kept second guessing my discomfort... and none of it was strictly wrong, until of course it was.
For me the risk is just too great. 25 years later I'm still affected by my experience - it really shaped my view of sex, sexuality, relationships, trust, femininity, masculinity... and I'm not 100% convinced that I won't pass some of my unhealthy beliefs around those topics on to my children in turn. SA blows your life apart.

I'm very sorry to hear this :(

Nataliaa · 07/09/2024 20:51

TLMTTCSJTT1 · 07/09/2024 20:23

I am in the police and I will never, ever, ever allow sleepovers, ever. The sad thing is there's no certain type of person who we can really say is or isn't safe and the risk isn't worth it IMO.

Everyone needs to read this. If the POLICE wouldn’t do it, take note!! It’s not worth the risk!!

KrisAkabusi · 07/09/2024 20:51

Both mine started around age 10/11

carly2803 · 07/09/2024 20:49

I am not against sleepovers for primary school age kids under 8, just don't think they "need" them as some parents portray.

Mine, with people who are not family - nope not until secondary - my kids, my choice.

No issues for family sleepovers! But not for school friends.

Nataliaa · 07/09/2024 20:49

Jellybeanbag · 07/09/2024 16:23

It's each to their own with what they allow.

My rules might be crazy to some, but that's ok. Others rules to allow sleepovers, especially at a young age are crazy to me.

My DC have lots of fun with their friends, but they don't need to be sleeping over anywhere. They're not missing out in my book. Under my roof, with my family. No questions whether they might be exposed to anything by a parent, peer on peer abuse, older siblings, boyfriends/girlfriends, random people coming to the home.

So, I'm happy with my choice.

As I say, when they get older, they'll be going out with their friends. That's absolutely fine with me. They can go round to their friends when they're older, when they will be more confident and know how to handle situations, have a phone and even be old enough to walk out of situations if they feel uncomfortable.

This whole obsession with sleepovers/playdates is bizarre to me. They see their friends at school, see they some weekends, at parties and during the holidays at activities etc. But each to their own.

I completely agree. And even more so, since the tragic story of the children murdered at a sleepover. Think it was a couple of years back. The mum’s boyfriend murdered the mum, daughter and daughters friend that was there for a sleepover. Also, when I was a child I remember going to a sleepover aged 10 and feeling very unsafe at around midnight when the dad came home drunk and beat the mum. I could hear it all but was paralysed with fear. You just never know.

Jellybeanbag · 07/09/2024 20:48

ASpritzOfMyFavouritePerfume · 07/09/2024 20:33

Wow. Just watch out when your DC rebel. Which they will.

Will they?

Well i'd rather take that risk than place them at risk of something much worse.

Just read the posts here of people who had/whose children had been placed at risk or situations they didn't approve of. In particular the poster who had sleepovers at a friends home who was being SA by her father, who had a respectable job. Easy to overlook that isn't it?

You're happy with your decision and its not my concern what you choose to do.

Its also not your concern what I choose to do.

Groomers thrive on situations like this.

poptake · 07/09/2024 20:47

You never really know people. Thinking of the French rape case as an example.

Do you never go on a plane due to historic terrorist attacks? You never know.

RedRidingGood · 07/09/2024 20:43

Jellybeanbag · 07/09/2024 16:23

It's each to their own with what they allow.

My rules might be crazy to some, but that's ok. Others rules to allow sleepovers, especially at a young age are crazy to me.

My DC have lots of fun with their friends, but they don't need to be sleeping over anywhere. They're not missing out in my book. Under my roof, with my family. No questions whether they might be exposed to anything by a parent, peer on peer abuse, older siblings, boyfriends/girlfriends, random people coming to the home.

So, I'm happy with my choice.

As I say, when they get older, they'll be going out with their friends. That's absolutely fine with me. They can go round to their friends when they're older, when they will be more confident and know how to handle situations, have a phone and even be old enough to walk out of situations if they feel uncomfortable.

This whole obsession with sleepovers/playdates is bizarre to me. They see their friends at school, see they some weekends, at parties and during the holidays at activities etc. But each to their own.

I for one agree with you. I don't feel the need to put them at risk when they're so young. You never really know people. Thinking of the French rape case as an example.