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Calmondeck · 07/09/2024 06:35

Im wavering between thinking this is none of my business… but can’t shake deep misgivings about a friend’s relationship. Does this story give you red flags too?

Friend and I had our first children at the same time so our now 3 yr olds are close buddies. She went through rounds of IVF w donor sperm to have her much wanted only child.

When her child was 18 months old she was swept off her feet by a twice divorced man with kids from both marriages. He doesn’t want to be a father again so has little to do with her child. However, he’s very insistent he has ‘adult time’ with my friend, including whisking her away for a 12 night overseas trip, which happened to coincide with the child’s first ever week of pre-school.

The child is currently in the care of a nanny, who is navigating the first weeks of pre-school alone. The nanny is exhausted and told me at the park yesterday that she’s ready to find a new job. Not because she doesn’t like the child, but she’s working 24/7 and has been for the past year.

The child has started asking me for hugs and counting down sleeps until her mum is back. Meanwhile I’m getting holiday pics raving about joys of child free life.

My worry is - the man is moving in after this trip, the nanny is moving out. Would it be friendship ending to voice my misgivings to my friend?

AiBU - solo parents deserve their own space and holidays, the child will be fine, family dynamics change, MYOB?

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Lifeomars · 07/09/2024 08:50

a weekend away would be fine, but 12 days is really long and for a 3 year old will feel like an eternity. I was a single mum and used to long for some time to myself, my child used to have a couple of days away at their grandparents and I just used to sleep! There was no way I could or would have left them for almost two weeks even with their grandparents for such a long time at such a young age.

Moveoverdarlin · 07/09/2024 08:48

NunyaBeeswax · 07/09/2024 08:46

I think, if your friend went on holiday instead of seeing her child go to school, she's a cunt.

Hope that helps.

Couldn’t agree more.

OhshutupBarry · 07/09/2024 08:48

Is this real?

Beezknees · 07/09/2024 08:47

Classicstripewastaken · 07/09/2024 07:41

I wonder if mum is okay? I can't imagine leaving my son for so long or missing major milestones. Being a new parent is hard, never mind doing it alone. Perhaps she's been struggling for a while and this partner has given her a bit of escape. If she was finding it difficult or living with depression, avoidance can be easier than dealing with things and maybe this is her way of coping.

With all that said, there's obviously a poor child missing its mum at the centre of this. I'm not sure how I'd manage it with a friend, perhaps just stay close for now and offer support when you can.

Then she needs to get her shit together for her child's sake. I left abuse from my son's father and managed to still be a present parent. You don't get to "escape" when you've got kids that you brought into the world.

NunyaBeeswax · 07/09/2024 08:46

I think, if your friend went on holiday instead of seeing her child go to school, she's a cunt.

Hope that helps.

Babyworriesreal · 07/09/2024 08:46

hopsalong · 07/09/2024 08:28

Horrible situation.

I'd present it to your friend in the first instance as 'I was having a bit of a heart to heart with X (the nanny) and I'm worried that she might be thinking of leaving because of the workload'. That might focus her mind.

At the same time, I'd call social services just to make them aware.

Mum may blame the child in this scenario. I hope the nanny makes it very clear that she is not leaving because of the child.

Moveoverdarlin · 07/09/2024 08:46

I can’t imagine doing this. Jesus I feel guilty about putting them in afterschool club once in a blue moon. How she can piss off for 12 nights and leave her baby with a Nanny is beyond me.

Beezknees · 07/09/2024 08:45

YANBU, extremely selfish and horrible behaviour, I am a lone parent myself. Nothing on this earth would have ever made me miss my child's first days at school and never in his life have I gone away for 12 nights.

yeesh · 07/09/2024 08:42

Your friend is the problem, putting a man before her child. Vile

Lovelysummerdays · 07/09/2024 08:38

Poor kid, not financially I assume, but not having your mum around and no dad is hard. I assume boarding school will be next on the to do list.

FiveGoMadInDorset · 07/09/2024 08:37

This is what my parents did when we were small, didn’t realize how much it affected me until I was older

Superhansrantowindsor · 07/09/2024 08:37

I can’t see how this is a problem with the new partner. He’s made his feelings known and your friend has chosen to persue the relationship regardless. You say the child is much wanted- doesn’t sound like it to me. 12 days away and raving about child free life suggests the maternal bond is weak. Please stay in this child’s life. Sounds like she needs some stability.

Duckduckgoose24 · 07/09/2024 08:36

Do you think the timing of the trip is deliberate on his part? Agreed that she's the one making the decision to go, but do you think he's done that deliberately? Place her in a position of choosing him or the child?

FlaggyShore · 07/09/2024 08:35

Dolliesdisasterousdayout · 07/09/2024 07:29

Maybe the nanny could be the one to discuss your concerns if she’s leaving anyway and shares your concerns?

The nanny will, one assumes, be relying on a reference from this job, though…?

Needmoresleep · 07/09/2024 08:35

Social services won't do anything, except perhaps to speak to her. However it should be noted as a red flag. The hope is that this will be the only one. However if there are more the first will help to indicate a pattern.

The mum sounds as if she flits from one enthusiasm to another. First having a child, then the new man. Unfortunately babies are for life, and require you to put them first.

When mine were little, there were a lot of nannies around and two particularly good nannies confided in me about problems at home. I had not known details but given both families went through nannies at an extraordinary pace (over 20 each by the time the eldest left primary) I was not surprised at their revelations. I think I was used as a sounding board as they tried to justify to themselves that they needed to leave even though they were concerned about the child/children. Thinking about it now the elder child in both families has wound up as a damaged adult. A conviction for sex offenses in one case.

PrincessHoneysuckle · 07/09/2024 08:30

LividSummers · 07/09/2024 07:04

It’s giving me the heebie jeebies. Twelve nights. Absolutely not.

She’s putting dick before daughter.

This

hopsalong · 07/09/2024 08:28

Horrible situation.

I'd present it to your friend in the first instance as 'I was having a bit of a heart to heart with X (the nanny) and I'm worried that she might be thinking of leaving because of the workload'. That might focus her mind.

At the same time, I'd call social services just to make them aware.

MelainesLaugh · 07/09/2024 08:26

I think I’d be offering to take the child for a night over the weekend to give the Nanny a break.

What does her family think? Poor child

PepaWepa · 07/09/2024 08:25

I accidentally hit yabu , but of course yanbu. I've been a solo parent since the birth of my DD(7) and didn't leave her overnight until she was 4. My mum takes her away every year now for 4 days with her cousins, by day 3 I'm lost and miss her so much. I couldn't ever imagine doing what your friend has done, especially after going through IVF to have the child. Moving the man in sounds like a huge mistake and I'd definitely be having words if it was my friend.

Singleandproud · 07/09/2024 08:22

Little girls living with men that don't like them or want them around have terrible lives....

Gloschick · 07/09/2024 08:20

Don't say anything. This child will need you even more once nanny leaves. They say that having an adult who loves and supports you can mitigate adverse childhood experiences. You will need to be that adult, so don't fall out with mum.

watermanserenity · 07/09/2024 08:18

Awful mother.

Mummyoflittledragon · 07/09/2024 08:18

PinkPlatypus · 07/09/2024 08:14

Social services are snowed under and this unfortunately is u likely to reach any kind of threshold considering the child is being cared for by a professional and I assume currently cared for, well groomed and fed. It also sounds like a (currently) one off, as in it’s the first time she has done it.
But the whole thing does sound very concerning. I would get in touch with the preschool if you know where the child is going and just fill them in. It is possible that out of professionalism the Nanny hasn’t said much. If preschool have a full picture they are perfectly placed to keep an eye on the child and see how this develops, and will be well versed in safeguarding/raising concerns with SS.

This is a really good idea. Poor little girl. Maybe tell the mum her dd has been really clingy to you and upset.

QueenHilda · 07/09/2024 08:17

yanbu to be concerned but yes it would be friendship ending to voice a concern at this stage.

Just a general objection / criticism of her boyfriend is not going to go down well. You could tell her about the child asking for hugs, wrapping it up as the child missing her very and being very very happy she’s home. Hopefully it will make her think. You need to be subtle I think. But also, if something specific and concrete happens that concerns you, yes you should speak up.

Differentstarts · 07/09/2024 08:17

I have a friend well ex friend who always has put men ahead of her kids. I said something and it ended the friendship. One day she was telling me how she had, had a fight with her parents because they'd told her to stop putting men ahead of her kids and she wanted me to take her side and I couldn't, her parents where 100% right. Although we where good friends I couldn't be around and feed into someone's desperate delusions like that she genuinely couldn't see what she was doing was wrong and she'd act like a desperate school girl around men it was embarrassing to see and they'd usually be really shitty abusive men who prey on women like this.

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