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Mormon wives

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Stepawayfromthefridgenow · 06/09/2024 22:07

Watching this show ‘The secret lives of Mormon wives’ I had no idea their lives were like that or allowed to be.
Anyone Mormon here or know any Mormons?

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AgnesX · 07/09/2024 07:29

ncforcatquestion · 06/09/2024 23:54

I think it looks like a good life. I would have liked to be able to stay home with lots of kids, cooking, dressmaking and making jam

The novelty of that would wear off very quickly. Unless someone's spouse earns a lot it would be a lot less ideal than it sounds.

Latenightreader · 07/09/2024 07:02

ComtesseDeSpair · 07/09/2024 00:53

I think it’s only a small sub-group who believe in doing this though, as mainstream LDS followers are essentially anabaptists who think baptism must be a conscious choice. Though to be fair, it doesn’t strike me as any more weird to baptise the dead than to baptise babies, who are equally unaware.

When we visited Salt Lake City to see (non-Mormon) friends some years ago we went on a tour of the Temple Museum (you can't see the actual Temple). Our tour guide showed us the giant font (full imersion but raised up) where people were baptised, and explained about being baptised for your ancestors so they could go to heaven. She had been done 34 times. I'm pretty sure she said it was voluntary in that the deceased person had to accept the baptism before admittance, but my memory isn't as clear on that.

bazoom · 07/09/2024 07:02

FuckThePoPo · 06/09/2024 23:18

Well I'm sure they are great apart from no tea coffee or alcohol, no abortions, no gays. No thanks 😂

I'd struggle without the tea

TheChosenTwo · 07/09/2024 06:56

I worked with a mormon lady for years. Had no idea she was Mormon until I drew her name in secret Santa and bought her a bottle of gin - someone else pointed out that she couldn’t drink it because she was Mormon! Had no idea because she didn’t bring that side of her to work I guess, other than saying she’d been to church over the weekend - but there are lots of different types of church!
Nothing remotely different about her.

RoseMarigoldViolet · 07/09/2024 06:50

Where can you watch this programme in the UK?
Sorry if I have missed this in the posts.

KateMiskin · 07/09/2024 06:47

ncforcatquestion · 07/09/2024 06:45

It is possible but the culture we've grown up in there aren't a lot of men willing to support this

Most women trapped in these kinds of cultures- I am from one such- have no choice.

ncforcatquestion · 07/09/2024 06:45

KateMiskin · 07/09/2024 06:43

I dont really get what is stopping anyone from staying at home, having a passel of kids, making jam all day and dressing conservatively if you so wish without being Mormon. Lots of cultures and religions encourage this.
Personally my worst nightmare.

It is possible but the culture we've grown up in there aren't a lot of men willing to support this

KateMiskin · 07/09/2024 06:43

I dont really get what is stopping anyone from staying at home, having a passel of kids, making jam all day and dressing conservatively if you so wish without being Mormon. Lots of cultures and religions encourage this.
Personally my worst nightmare.

Dodo23 · 07/09/2024 06:43

ncforcatquestion · 07/09/2024 00:00

But you could argue that we don't really have a choice the other way around. To be a mother means nothing in this society

I often think this is so true, not many women genuinely have a choice. Lots of women in certain parts of the world would love to have a career, but are forced to stay at home due to cultural expectations. Whilst many women would love to stay at home and raise their children, but are forced to work due to the fact that few families can live on one income. There's no right or wrong way, but not many women genuinely have a choice in this.

Missingpotatocroquettes · 07/09/2024 06:36

I know some Mormons. The ones I know are nice people but it's most definitely a cult in my eyes.

The history of the church is very interesting though. The founder of the church, Joseph Smith, was a known and convicted scam artist, who married a 14 year old girl, amongst his other ~40 wives.

They also believe in "continuous revelation", this means that members of the church are still recieving messages from god. This gives them a convenient out whenever they're getting too much bad publicity because the new messages can overrule the old ones. Like when they were going to be kicked out of Utah for practicing polygamy and the leader suddenly receives a message from god saying "no, actually polygamy is wrong and forbidden." Or, in more recent history, when God decided that actually black people can join the church.

This is all on a hierarchy too so the head of the Mormon church, who is always about 90, receives messages for the whole church. Leaders of churches receive messages for their individual church. Men can receive messages for their own family and, obviously, women are at the bottom and can only receive messages for themselves or their children.

Oldseagull · 07/09/2024 06:33

Before anyone seriously considers becoming a 'Mormon wife' please do one thing for me.

Google 'Mormon child sexual abuse'.

I'm sure making jam won't be anywhere near as fun when you have to turn a blind eye to your child getting raped, otherwise being ostracised from everyone you know and love including your other children.

Any belief system which involves giving up responsibility for your morality and critical thinking skills to a third party tend to have quite a few wronguns in it.

Chattenoire · 07/09/2024 06:27

A very good friend of mine is Mormon. I met him through work. I think he's potentially on the liberal side.

He's desperate for his wife to work (he finds it unfair that he works long hours and she's a SAHM of primary school kids, so to him she does have time to spare).

He didn't want any more kids, she did. Which is why they got a cat as a compromise for no more kids.

When we've been out for dinner he tends to not tell.his wife as she's "the jealous" type.

They do live in Utah.

DreamTheMoors · 07/09/2024 06:10

Bigcat25 · 06/09/2024 23:21

That said I've never been to SLC.

Do you think allll the Mormons live in Salt Lake City and no place else?
Have I got news for you.

I grew up with a Mormon girl - very sweet. And her family was lovely - very nice people. And wealthy. Her dad owned a big poultry company and her mother was a housewife. She had much older siblings.
I spent the night once and her parents went out to dinner with friends. When they got home, her mother invited them in “for a drink” - I about fainted, and we followed them inside, where they shared a can of Pepsi four ways.
Later on, my friend married a Methodist.
I remember her telling me the one thing she dreamed of was getting married in the Mormon Temple in SLC, which only Mormons can enter. I was disappointed that I couldn’t attend her wedding.
I didn’t attend her wedding to the Methodist, either, but we’re still long-distance friends.

OneLilacPeer · 07/09/2024 06:06

Or, could just be that influencers are more into plastic surgery than the average person. 🙍

OneLilacPeer · 07/09/2024 05:27

@Shakenandstirredup

Maybe it's a Utah thing? I think it's a separate cultural phenomenon from the religion.

Shakenandstirredup · 07/09/2024 05:25

Men are into it too.

Shakenandstirredup · 07/09/2024 05:22

I’m sure plastic surgery is big business in Utah & Mormon cultures encourages it?

Shakenandstirredup · 07/09/2024 05:19

@OneLilacPeer not seen this show but based on what I’ve read & yrs ago there were a lot of Mormon influencers.

OneLilacPeer · 07/09/2024 05:17

Shakenandstirredup · 07/09/2024 05:08

I find the idea of garments but lots of plastic surgery confusing. Why do women have to be modest?

I found this about garments, which are worn by men and women: https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/temple-garments

I'm not sure about "lots of plastic surgery"? Is that from the show?

The Temple Garment and is Sacred to Latter-day Saints

Temple undergarments are worn by faithful Latter-day Saints as a reminder of sacred beliefs and commitments.

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/temple-garments

OneLilacPeer · 07/09/2024 05:14

This article shares quotes from women who are LDS about the show: https://www.deseret.com/faith/2024/09/06/the-secret-lives-of-mormon-wives/

It also includes part of an official statement from church leadership. It sounds like the show is offensively inaccurate, like most 'reality' tv.

The real lives of Latter-day Saint wives

What Latter-day Saint women are saying about a new Hulu show.

https://www.deseret.com/faith/2024/09/06/the-secret-lives-of-mormon-wives

Shakenandstirredup · 07/09/2024 05:08

I find the idea of garments but lots of plastic surgery confusing. Why do women have to be modest?

Baseline14 · 07/09/2024 04:14

I had a friend who was Mormon at uni. Her upbringing was exceptionally similar to mine brought up in evangelical Christian family, very strict especially with females, we both married at 20, whole life revolves around church activities so we would be there at least 4 times a week and all socialising would be with people at church, no alcohol, dressed 'modestly' and mostly typically feminine. She did wear garments which covered shoulders and came to her knees but we never discussed it. I guess it would be a bit of a strange life for people who hadn't grown up like thst but wasn't that different from mine.

autienotbaughty · 07/09/2024 04:10

A woman who lived in our village a few years ago was a Mormon. All I really knew was she went to church, wire long dresses or trousers. Didn't drink alcohol, coffee or own a tv. She was a lovely person

bpirockin · 07/09/2024 03:51

My neighbour is a Mormon, and according to her there are strict guidelines/rules about their underwear - something akin to knickerbockers and plain white. Somehow I can't imagine Marie Osmond in the things I've seen on next door's line. If the lack of coffee wasn't enough to put me off, that would!

Fraaahnces · 07/09/2024 03:45

I went to high school with one. Mid 80’s. (In Australia - pretty few and far between tbh. Very much scoffed at by wider society.) She was lovely, academic, funny. Pulled out of school to get married at 15. Lived in a caravan in the driveway of her parents home. Returned to school initially, very subdued and probably traumatised. She quit and became a hairdresser. Later left him, the church, and returned to study. She runs a bar.