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DSS looking after DDs on dads weekend

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LimeUser · 06/09/2024 16:56

My XH and I split just over a year ago and we have x3 DDs (11, 8, 8). He has them every other weekend at his house. Him and his gfrnd are away next Friday night and he’s asked DSS (20) to collect the girls from school and have them overnight until they get back late Saturday night. I’ve also found out that XH gfrnds DS (18) who I’ve never met will also be there. AIBU about not being comfortable with this? I’m away next weekend so I can’t have them but I just worry so much when they are away. I trust DSS and have known him since he was 3, he’s a great kid but he has no experience of childcare or young children. Would he know what to do in an emergency etc. I don’t have a great relationship with XH and we have no parenting plan. He says I’m being controlling and I guess I am but the girls have never been left before other than a parent or grandparent overnight. Am I overthinking this??

OP posts:
rayofsunshine86 · 07/09/2024 00:17

Could you organise a sleepover so your girls stay with their friends' houses? Twins at one house and 11yo at another. Then your DSS doesn't have to look after three by himself, and your DDs are cared for.

RosiePosiee · 07/09/2024 00:13

LimeUser · 06/09/2024 17:56

Ok to add to the complexity - I’ve just gently asked my DDs if they are excited about next weekend and seeing their big brother. I’ve also said I’m around and they can call if any issues. My twins have just burst into tears and said they want to stay with me but didn’t want to tell me because their dad said it would ruin my weekend! I have plans but would cancel them of course. My eldest is determined she wants to go - arghhhh!!

Right well that's then. Your twins so t be going to see their extended family.

Wonder if you'll be back here in a few years when your kids are incapable of doing anything without you

YeahComeOnThen · 06/09/2024 23:09

LimeUser · 06/09/2024 18:35

I trust my DSS and wouldn’t think there would be an issue like this. He doesn’t see them regularly thou as lives in another city with his mum an hour away. I do think he’s not used to children though so wouldn’t necessarily know what to do if someone was sick, injured or even had a nose bleed! Probably panic and call me in fairness

@LimeUser

But they're not babies, really what is the liklihood of there being an issue? They're watching tv/playing games, eating McD & too much sugar.

He'll call you, his mum or 111. Your 11 year old could probably manage that to be fair.

youre not used to leaving your girls with a sitter. It's natural to feel a bit anxious. But it'll be fine🤗

OneFastDuck · 06/09/2024 18:43

LimeUser · 06/09/2024 18:35

I trust my DSS and wouldn’t think there would be an issue like this. He doesn’t see them regularly thou as lives in another city with his mum an hour away. I do think he’s not used to children though so wouldn’t necessarily know what to do if someone was sick, injured or even had a nose bleed! Probably panic and call me in fairness

He's 20, I'm sure he's been around plenty of vomit. At 11 and 8 a nosebleed doesn't even require assistance- my 4yo deals with his pretty independently although I obviously like to be with him.

I think you need to relax.

OneFastDuck · 06/09/2024 18:41

An adult sibling they have known all their life and his adult girlfriend who they've holidayed with.

Yes absolutely fine, couldn't actually think of a better babysitter. It's 24hrs and you don't have little kids- you have big kids and a pre teen. They don't exactly need their bums wiped or nap routine keeping.

LimeUser · 06/09/2024 18:35

YeahComeOnThen · 06/09/2024 17:32

@LimeUser

itll be fine. I'm sure she's more than able to keep an eye on your girls, they don't need much except feeding and McDonald's seems to be sorting that out,

it's not like they are 4 & 1+1

all the nonsense about them being male is bonkers. If they were the type to abuse young girls they wouldn't need to wait until ExH went away for one night. If the girls are comfortable with it, then don't worry.

i'm surprised he's even told you in advance.

I trust my DSS and wouldn’t think there would be an issue like this. He doesn’t see them regularly thou as lives in another city with his mum an hour away. I do think he’s not used to children though so wouldn’t necessarily know what to do if someone was sick, injured or even had a nose bleed! Probably panic and call me in fairness

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LimeUser · 06/09/2024 18:34

Needmorelego · 06/09/2024 17:17

@LimeUser is there time to meet the step son (and his mum) before this happens?
Just a friendly meeting.
It's in the best interest of your girls for all the adults in their lives to get on (or at least be civil) with each other.
Or even just a phone call chat.

Unfortunately not. She was introduced to my kids before I knew about her or the affair, she’s said she doesn’t want to meet me or talk to me. I don’t have her number either.

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carrotcard · 06/09/2024 18:29

funinthesun19 · 06/09/2024 17:54

Could you swap weekends and you have them, OP? I know you might be working or have plans, but if not, then could they be with you?

Their dad has made arrangements with someone he feels is safe to look after them. But you can always offer to have them yourself if it’s worrying you.

Yeah or don't swap and just look after them if he cant

funinthesun19 · 06/09/2024 18:25

laveritable · 06/09/2024 18:24

If you are NOT comfortable! Cancel your outing and stay with your kids!

I agree with this

laveritable · 06/09/2024 18:24

If you are NOT comfortable! Cancel your outing and stay with your kids!

funinthesun19 · 06/09/2024 18:23

mathanxiety · 06/09/2024 18:06

I think it actually fudges the question, because it implies a closer or longer or more established relationship than might be the case.

For all we know, the ex and the gf here might have known each other for two weeks.

All I was getting at was that they have a half brother because they share the same father.

But a person in the girlfriend’s son’s shoes is the one who would be their stepbrother in time. And again, I wasn’t actually saying that that’s what he is at this point now. I was just explaining the difference between half and step because some people don’t seem to understand the difference.

I agree he isn’t their stepbrother. I should have said potential stepbrother. OP only split with her husband a year ago. So they don’t have a stepmum, either. Dad’s girlfriend isn’t their stepmum.

I’m not disagreeing with you. He’s not their stepbrother. But out of the two, he’s the one that would be.

MouseMama · 06/09/2024 18:06

I wouldn’t be overly happy about this arrangement unless I had spoken to DSS and agreed appropriate boundaries. He might be a great guy but he’s young and not the girls’ father - what’s to stop him inviting a bunch of lads round on the Friday night for a few beers. I wouldn’t want my young daughters in a home with drunk men they don’t know. I’m not sure it’s fair to expect DSS to devote himself entirely to his step sisters when most likely the arrangement has been dumped on him. It seems to me that this contact time is arranged so the girls can spend time with their dad - if he’s not going to be there for the first 30 hours or so of the weekend then what is being achieved by them being in his home? I do think it very much depends on DSS’s personality though and if you think he is mature enough to understand the responsibility he is taking on.

mathanxiety · 06/09/2024 18:06

funinthesun19 · 06/09/2024 18:03

But for clarity on this thread.

I think it actually fudges the question, because it implies a closer or longer or more established relationship than might be the case.

For all we know, the ex and the gf here might have known each other for two weeks.

funinthesun19 · 06/09/2024 18:03

Hence why I said I use the term very loosely

Lemonadeand · 06/09/2024 18:03

I would have some reservations about the young man I’d never met, and definitely have a refresher conversation with DDs about safeguarding (age appropriate, obviously).

funinthesun19 · 06/09/2024 18:03

mathanxiety · 06/09/2024 18:01

He's not their step brother. They are not married.

But for clarity on this thread.

LimeUser · 06/09/2024 18:02

@KendraTheVampyrSlayer now to deal with XH on this - he’ll say I’ve poisoned them against him 🙄. Would love him to see them more (and to have more of a break!) but he just has so many people looking after them or leaves them on their own in the house so he can go running. Grrr!

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sunshine237 · 06/09/2024 18:02

GreenClockTower · 06/09/2024 17:06

I'd be slightly worried about the 18 year old boy/ man you've never met, especially in the context of two 18 year olds having the house "to themselves" and potentially inviting friends you also don't know over... Or just making a thoughtless social media or in person comment about parents being away and having univited guests and not the wherewithal to say no.

I'm a parent of lovely sensible older teenagers but I know how vulnerable to peer pressure they can sometimes be, and wouldn't feel comfortable in this context that the three little girls won't end up in a house with not just lovely step brother and his dad's girlfriend's son but also several of their/ the girlfriend's son's friends or even a house party kicking off.

I'd be cancelling my plans to be away in your shoes tbh because even if the boys are lovely you've never met one of them.

I agree. I think the rest is potentially ok, but not the friend.

mathanxiety · 06/09/2024 18:01

funinthesun19 · 06/09/2024 17:59

OP’s children and their older brother share the same father. When Op was with her ex, his son was OP’s stepson. They have 3 children together so that means they are his 20 year old son’s half siblings. They aren’t stepsiblings because they share a parent.

Their father’s girlfriend’s son is their stepbrother. And I use the term stepbrother VERY loosely.

Edited

He's not their step brother. They are not married.

mathanxiety · 06/09/2024 18:01

LimeUser · 06/09/2024 17:53

@mathanxiety I would love to be able to do this - unfortunately when we first split my XH would constantly ask me to cover his weekends and swap loads of stuff. I don’t have much of a social life but tried to book a few things in when they weren’t with me. I had to put my foot down in the end as it was becoming a joke that he wouldn’t have them hardly ever. If I suggested this again I think he would end up taking the piss again!
I’ve suggested a parenting plan to help us both navigate this but he has screamed at me that I’m being controlling and trying to turn the kids against him.

Get a solicitor and go to court.

Get the agreement hammered out.

How many more weekends away will there be with the girlfriend, and how many more times will the DSS or even the girlfriend's son on his own be expected to cover? And how many other friends do these lads have, who might pop in for a visit on a weekend when the mother and ex are out of town?

It sounds as if this man really doesn't want to take responsibility for the children.

The girls in this situation are quite vulnerable to abuse. Predators can sense when children have an uninterested parent.

funinthesun19 · 06/09/2024 17:59

OP’s children and their older brother share the same father. When Op was with her ex, his son was OP’s stepson. They have 3 children together so that means they are his 20 year old son’s half siblings. They aren’t stepsiblings because they share a parent.

Their father’s girlfriend’s son is their stepbrother. And I use the term stepbrother VERY loosely.

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 06/09/2024 17:59

LimeUser · 06/09/2024 17:56

Ok to add to the complexity - I’ve just gently asked my DDs if they are excited about next weekend and seeing their big brother. I’ve also said I’m around and they can call if any issues. My twins have just burst into tears and said they want to stay with me but didn’t want to tell me because their dad said it would ruin my weekend! I have plans but would cancel them of course. My eldest is determined she wants to go - arghhhh!!

If they don't want to go I wouldn't force them to. In the case of your eldest can you convince her stay home with her sisters? (Like it'll be boring without anyone her own age)? I'd say they all go or none of them go.

LimeUser · 06/09/2024 17:56

Ok to add to the complexity - I’ve just gently asked my DDs if they are excited about next weekend and seeing their big brother. I’ve also said I’m around and they can call if any issues. My twins have just burst into tears and said they want to stay with me but didn’t want to tell me because their dad said it would ruin my weekend! I have plans but would cancel them of course. My eldest is determined she wants to go - arghhhh!!

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mathanxiety · 06/09/2024 17:55

Todaysbetterthanyesterday · 06/09/2024 17:51

** "random men" - you mean the girls HALF BROTHER !
Hardly random.

it is not a half brother… that would mean the children shared a parent, they don’t. It’s a step brother.

There are two young men here.
One is the DSS, and one is the son of the girlfriend.
This particular young man isn't a step brother or a half brother to the children. He's actually not related to anyone except the girlfriend.

The DSS may or may not be a half brother of the OP's children.

iNoticed · 06/09/2024 17:55

Todaysbetterthanyesterday · 06/09/2024 17:51

** "random men" - you mean the girls HALF BROTHER !
Hardly random.

it is not a half brother… that would mean the children shared a parent, they don’t. It’s a step brother.

They do share a parent, OPs ExH is parent to her children and her DSS. They are biologically related, and presumably have grown up together.

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