DH and me on Mounjaro weightloss injections

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Your husband isn't being supportive of you. He's being really jealous. That's entirely a him problem and not a you problem. He has the choice to decide what he does and says about his own health but he is being controlling if he tries to dictate to you what you can say or do.

Even if you were talking about it all the time it is a very big part of your life and so it would be natural to talk about it.

Please come join us on our thread if you aren't already on it, we are so supportive and down for a chat all hours of the day whether that's because you want to get something off your chest, have questions or even want to celebrate a loss or need advice about stalls.

It was reviewed in which magazine which said OK BUT you need to do it alongside strength training or you lose muscle mass (around 30-40% of any weight you lose on any diet is muscle mass unless you strength train and are actively telling your body you need muscle tissue because muscle tissue burns more calories at rest, it is a more expensive body tissue to maintain so the body will ditch it, most of burning lean muscle mass happens when you sleep). Also the injection only works as long as you take it. The key is whether you can sustain the weight loss afterwards. If you regain weight, you never regain muscle mass unless you are strength training, you just regain body fat and can therefore end up in a worse position I.e. with a lower % of muscle mass to fat ratio, muscle burns calories at rest than fat, so this then lowers your daily TDEE ( the amount of calories you need to lose or maintain weight, making dieting harder in future as you lose more nutritional content from food on less calories). And muscle mass is vital for healthy ageing and hormone synthesis. It's IMHO the biggest con of the diet industry that this isn't clearly explained.

The way I see it is the injection is a tool to aid you to reach your goal of a healthy weight. Personally I’d be happy just to reach that goal, and don’t need constant praise and congratulations. I’ve dieted the hard way, slowly, and it’s still crept back on, and think any tool that can help can only be a good thing. Just like a smoker using a patch to stop smoking. They don’t slap on a patch and instantly have no urge to smoke, it just helps dial it down a bit. Why should you have to suffer to lose weight? Seems a very weird perspective to me. That said no one is interested in your weight loss journey other than yourself and like minded people on the same journey using the same tools, whatever those tools might be - WW, SW, Cambridge diet, calorie counting or injecting and so on.

It's interesting the number of people who think losing weight with injections is 'cheating' or 'not doing it properly' compared to losing weight the 'traditional' way.

Part of the chemical process behind the injections is to make the body's insulin production more efficient and stabilise blood sugars. Indeed, many of the medications available were initially conceived as a treatment for diabetes.

Someone who is genetically predisposed to be insulin resistant (which is often undiagnosed) can be eating the right things and exercising, but their body simply can't burn fat as efficiently as someone without any insulin resistance, and holds onto the fat instead. Aggressively restricting calories is just going to make them feel very tired and ill, to the point where they struggle to function at work and in family life.

Would you also say that someone with a genetic predisposition to high cholesterol is cheating and not doing it properly if they eat the right things but still need to take statins? Should they just try harder, or accept the high cholesterol levels and live with the consequences, because other people can reduce cholesterol with minor adjustments to their diet?

Would you say that someone with low pain tolerance who needs pain relief when giving birth is cheating and not doing it properly? Should they just live with the trauma of intense pain, because other people are able to give birth without pain relief and it not particularly bother them?

@NeedSomeAnswersPlease but that is really obvious that boredom can lead to overeating, don’t need an injection to tell you that.

I imagine it's tough for DH because every improvement for you comes with an implicit side-order of "so why don't you do the same you stubborn fat biffer". Even if you're genuinely not thinking it (though from your OP it sounds like you really are), that's what he's hearing. You need to get through this as a couple because it would be easy for him to get entrenched in his opposition, or maybe he's never going to change his mind on this.

You're very judgemental of people who are struggling to lose weight and haven't taken the injections. They are expensive and not everyone can afford to rejig their budget.

I'm aware of the attitude of being fat so I must suffer - a GP told me I should pay for the injections as it would be less than I spend on food! I do not spend £200 a month on food. He also wasn't offering any support or advice when I asked about the conflict with any of my medication or which one would be best as I am T2. I have been on the waiting list for 2 years for them.

Thankfully another GP took me off gliclazide and put me on oral semaglutide. The risk of pancreatitis is increased due to other conditions. The injections aren't the answer for everyone but us fatties will take the risks because of the worse stigma of being fat.

But as others said losing weight on MJ does still take work and effort. I could still have croissant for breakfast, chips for linch and a takeaway for dinner on the drugs. And wouldn’t lose weight. I have to still make healthy choices or I won’t lose weight.

personally I don’t care if people congratulate me or not and tbh most people don’t know I’m on MJ anyway. I keep my medical treatment private.

What do the injections consist of?

I do agree the underlying issue needs to be resolved. For me for example I know I switched my alcohol addiction sugar. I am actually seeking help with that too. Being on MJ gives me the peace in my head to be able to do that.

I sat on the fence for quite a while before deciding to use weight loss injections.

And for those of you who haven't used it, maybe you do just have better willpower and a better ability to avoid the food noise that runs constantly through you mind when dieting so well done to you.

For me personally, the food noise was soul destroying. A constant stream of....

"No, I'm not hungry, don't eat crap, ooo there's biscuits in the cupboard, no ignore that, don't think about the biscuit, omg how many calories are in this? Can I have that to eat and still be in my calories? Omg I've gone over my calories, so bloody useless. Does that waitress think I'm just a fat pig? Omg, I'm so useless and such a failure, why can't I just lose weight, what's wrong with me?"
And repeat!

I've been using the injections since the beginning of August and the food noise has just stopped, gone and it's truly a bloody relief!

I'm listening to my body, when I eat now, I concentrate on protein and fueling my body rather than anything else.

Using the injection has given me the breathing space to do this in a way that has never happened before and I've been dieting since I was probably 12, I'm 44 now, I'm tired so if there is something that can help me, why would I not use it if I can?

I've done it the hard way before, counting every calorie, exercising 6 days a week with swimming, hiit, weight training and the weight has just piled back on again.

We all know it's eat less, move more, but using the injection allows me to concentrate on just that.

I can't just sit on my arse and eat fatty, shit food and still lose weight, that's just not possible for me whilst injecting, I have to be careful of what I eat so as not to have the bad side effects of stomach cramps and diarrhoea which I obviously don't want.

Also, the weight doesn't just drop off, I've had gains here and there too, stayed the same weight for a few days. It's not inject and wake up a size 10, there's still plenty of 'work' to do.

I think the weight loss injection is just one of those things that is going to cause a divide but for me personally, I'm happy to use so I can work on my relationship with food without having to deal with the noise in my head at the same time.

Losing weight and increasing her life expectancy, that sort of long term impact?

What are the risks associated with it then? List them out

How ridiculous - of course people can have an opinion on things they don't have direct experience of. Isn't that how life works? You just don't like that other people have different opinions from you.

Well yes , what are you congratulating? It’s like congratulating someone for their weight loss after a stomach bug when the reason is they didn’t feel like eating. Not saying it’s not a good thing to lose weight for health and it’s I am sure a scary step to start the injections not knowing if you’d have an adverse effect. We congratulate achievement don’t we, not eating because you don’t feel hungry isn’t an achievement. Keeping it off and changing eating habits is to be congratulated.

Its not so much supposed to be a hard slog.... More that if it wasn't that much of a hard slog why do you need the cheering and praise and gold stars for it?
The weight loss in itself isn't the thing being praised usually, its the hard work people had to put in to achieve it?

Well of course let’s not encourage debate shall we!!

op I think if think about why you need his approval, not saying you are wrong to want it but you don’t need it. For him well you can understand why he’s not encouraging, he probably is jealous or resentful.

It's not that it's supposed to be a hard miserable slog it's just that you aren't actually dealing with the dispordered eating at all by doing these injections. You are just throwing money at an expensive way to remove a symptom of a cause that will remain with you once you have stopped the injections. You would be much better off paying for therapy and then slowly lose the weight by changing your diet pattern and exercise. By doing the injections you won't have fundamentally changed anything about yourself or learnt strategies to keep this up long-term.

I'm the biggest over sharer in the world but I don't really talk to anybody else about my mounjaro journey. Once a week I tell my DH in passing that it's the day of my injection ( mates me tired and vv burpy/farty) and if I've lost weight and that's it. Oxidant my sister will actively ask how I'm getting on. I tell her over 2-3 minutes and that's it. In a lot of ways there is nothing worse than somebody harping on about their latest " thing " , especially if you are in a different path to them. I don't think it matters why your DH isn't doing this with you, it's a valid choice he's made just like yours is. If you are seeking validation then it definitely mates sense to do it elsewhere and just not discuss it with him.