DH and me on Mounjaro weightloss injections

I'm not against these drugs being used for weight loss and I think they are really beneficial for obese individuals.

I do think that they shouldn't be available as they currently are outside a clinical setting. If that be on the NHS or in a private clinic where you can get both nurtion and exercise support to use these drugs correctly. You do need to change your diet and add exercise in order to be able to come of them long term and I think they way they are being sold at the moment only really benefits the drug manufactures. Who will make more profits from people who will yo-yo diet on them.

Yes some people will use them correctly on their own, but to many won't either know how to or what to do in order to stop taking them. I only see the drug companies really benefiting long term from the current setup.

I don't think @mm81736 was dissing the injections, more likely dissing the OP who said people know you're on mounjaro if you lose a lot of weight, because people never lost a lot of weight before the jab

And people will continue to lose weight with injections.

Are you generally wary of medical advancements or is this a new concern for you?

Well done on your weight loss OP.

These injections aren’t perfect but they are the lesser of 2 evils when someone is morbidly obese and at risk of suffering all types of illnesses.

Your DH is just jealous that you are doing so well.

Unfortunately, this isn’t a new thing.

Many men are very happy for their partners to go on a weight loss journey, until they actually start feeling good about themselves and looking and feeling better.

If someone is struggling with their weight then it’s unfair to talk too much about your weight loss (I’m sure you’ve been there yourself too) but you shouldn’t feel ashamed of your achievements.

It’s something many people live with. But as with anything that’s always been there you believe it’s normal.

Until it’s not. Or until you speak to people and discover it’s not.

It’s a new term for something that’s always existed. Some people have a Preoccupation with certain things. For some people it’s food.

If you don’t know what it is, or it doesn’t make sense to you then your brain likely doesn’t work that way.

I have adhd so, sometimes the food noise is drowned out about something else that’s become my special interest of the month. But the noise becomes about that. This spring it was my garden. I became obsessive. In my head was constant thoughts about what I wanted to to, what I could afford to do, was it a sensible idea to spend that much on it, doesn’t matter if it’s sensible it’s making me (temporarily) happy, how can I earn more to pay for extras, how can I get a promotion to have that extra money (not easy when you brain wants to think about the garden not your job) and so on and so forth. And when I have been through everything you go back to the beginning. In my case it’s not always about food but it’s always about something. More often than not food. I also have PCOS which also brings issues with cravings and food.

The last 2 days I have been more clear headed and my head has been quieter than it has in years.

Food noise is the constant, running commentary in your head that goes on.

"You're not hungry, don't eat, but there's biscuits, I know there's biscuits, how many calories, god why can't I just stop thinking about biscuits? Do people think I'm disgusting because I'm fat, why can't I just eat better, why do I fail all the time? If I finish all the food on my plate will people just think I'm greedy? Have i lost weight? Why havent i lost weight when i did everything right yesterday" And on it goes!

If you don't have this, great for you, but just because it's a new term, doesn't make it not real.

Why would it have to be one of those 2?People lost weight before weight loss injections you know!

@Buddenbruchs "food noise" is what some people using Mounjaro have realised was going on constantly in their heads, which the injection has stopped. In some cases immediately. That happened for me. I used to have a pretty constant inner dialogue about what to eat, what not to eat, why I should/shouldn't, calculating calorie contents of various possible foods, emotional self abuse about snacking/overeating, how I could buy icecream without my partner really noticing... constant. I have had that for decades, since childhood and hadn't ever realised that lots of people don't have it. If I saw snacks that I usually over ate with, it would go into overdrive.

About an hour after the first injection, I realised that it had all stopped.

What’s food noise ? Seems a new term.

It sounds like he wants you to be fat, like he’s sabotaging your success. Tbh I wonder if he purposely sabotaged your diet plans before which is why they never worked

We don't care.

Honestly this is such bollocks.

Several women at work have lost huge amounts going to slimming world. Some very fast. No one is gossiping about them probably taking injections.

A couple at work do take injections and are open about it.

And honestly, people lose weight and put it on all the time. Why would you jump to ‘must be weight loss injections’? And why would you care enough to even go through what they might or might not have done?

I am on MJ, been on it 2 days. I have already lost weight. But used this because despite being a health weight my entire life I had something awful happen, developed PTSD and stopped exercising as a result my PCOS and adhd became unbearable and then my mum died. I have only felt in a place in the last few months to tackle it and have decided that I wanted to try MJ to cut out the food noise and help my adhd. If anyone asks how I have lost it, I will be honest. But the food noise was making it almost impossible to concentrate on anything else. Diet and exercise and MJ. But most people who know me will just assume I am managing to return to the fit and healthy lifestyle I had for 35 years. You do realise some of us fat people haven’t always been fat? And that the vast majority know how to lose weight, we just have extra obstacles?

i also don’t buy that using injections is cheating. Or that making it harder for yourself makes it more of an achievement. You only know you own experience. Saying ‘it’s harder for me because I did it without injections’ means nothing. It might have been hard to you, but you don’t know what level of hard other people are finding it. They may have additional battles that you don’t have.

It’s like if 2 people took an exam and both found it hard. If one of those people have dyslexia their ‘hard’ is a whole other level to the others version of ‘hard’. The one with dyslexia would need other things to help them. Like extra time. Giving a person with dyslexia extra time in an exam doesn’t mean they find it easier than someone without dyslexia or doesn’t have to put as much effort in.

You may find something hard and achievable. For others it may be so hard it’s impossible without something extra to support.

If you can do it without injection, good for you. Be grateful. Don’t try and take something away from others. It doesn’t mean those who need something to help aren’t working as hard.

It's hard to be on any sort of diet and build muscle mass irrespective of whether there is a medical intervention or not.

It's even harder if you don't have the added benefit of testosterone.

Lean muscle gain requires a lot of dedication to exercise. Even muscle maintenance does too.

If you're in a calorie deficit then you are using whatever stores of energy your body has. This is fat in this instance.

I think people also forget that to be lugging around well over 100kg of fat every single day you have got to have the muscle mass to accomodate those movements. I've probably got a higher muscle mass than someone else my age who's never breached 70kg.

Losing some of that muscle mass on balance with losing fat in the grand scheme of things is no bad thing.

Nobody who is taking mounjaro is taking it to go below a healthy BMI, it won't be prescribed to them. Presuming they can still walk and move at that healthy BMI, they can work on building muscle mass through lean gaining then. Nobody who is morbidly obese is going to do their joints any good, especially at 27 stone, if they start muscle building exercises on top of the weight they are already carrying.

So losing muscle mass should not be a deterrent for losing weight whether that's through diet and exercise or with medical intervention. Many of us won't have a later in life to have any health outcomes from if we don't drop the weight now.

Tbh Id support my husband in using this stuff, only because he's diabetic. A medical need.

I do get the Heebies at the sheer amount of women who are on it and dropping stones really fast. Are we heading for a gallstones epidemic?

Your husband isn't being fair, he should allow you to be excited about losses. I'd hazard a guess this is more about him and how he feels about himself than it is about you.

I agree this is a positive reason to do it. But you have to understand these are the kind of diets you must do only once. Because of the loss of muscle mass. Then stick to healthier eating habits.

Not enough is focused on the science of the importance of muscle mass for health in later life and longevity. We don't just have a problem with obesity, we are under muscled.

I do understand weight loss. I just trust the word of a consultant more than randoms on the internet.

Oh, and to have a BMI of 30 at 10 stone, the person would need to be 4ft 8, or 4ft 11 for a BMI of 27. Which would be very unusual. Like I say, I am on mounjaro, prescribed by an endocrinology consultant with regular monitoring.

‘‘Twas always thus. If you can afford to go private, why not 🤷‍♀️

Weight loss is not linear and she will not remain at 1lb per day as her weight drops it will slow down.

She won't become malnourished because she has been eating in excess and suddenly is not eating in excess.

Bigger people lose weight quicker.

There is a higher chance that on the trajectory of weight gain OP was on that she would have a cardiac event or cause significant joint damage than there is of her becoming malnourished from following a healthy diet with the assistance of medication.

You can be prescribed mounjaro with a BMI of 30 or over or 27 if you have a comorbid condition like diabetes or high blood pressure.

You would not be prescribed mounjaro if you do not meet this criteria and haven't been vetted by a clinician.

Well done op for taking control of this. You must be over the moon with your weightloss so far. Your on the right track here to become healthy, fitter and happy. Im not sure what you can do for your H. Its definitely not on for him to be so unsupportive

@JusteanBiscuits I'm not saying it should! I'm just using that weight as an example!

And the rate of loss is not going to remain at 1lb a day though, is it?

It will slow down, plateau, the body adjusts and then begins to lose weight again if good habits are continued.

A starting weight of 10 stone shouldn't be prescribed monjaro anyway.

A lack of intake that leads to a 1lb a DAY weight loss will lead to malnutrition.

@JusteanBiscuits It depends on the starting weight, OP has said she was nearly at 27 stones so losing 2 stones at that weight by cutting out crap food and making healthier choices aided by injections is not going to cause malnutrition.

But yes, a starting weight of 10 stones losing 2 stones in a month is cause for concern.

2 stones IS a lot what ever your starting weight. I am prescribed it by a consultant and was told if I lost more than 5lb a week they would reduce my dose or take me off it completely if it was the lowest dose that led that to level of weight loss. He went to some length explaining that sudden drastic weight loss that isn't closely monitored by health professionals easily leads to malnutrition and other issues. But if you know more than an endocrinology consultant that's fine.

I don't lose weight for the purpose of being congratulated.

Well I know I still need to eat so I do eat something. This morning I have had melon and a plum. But I could have had a cake or a croissant. I still had to make the healthier choice.