DH and me on Mounjaro weightloss injections

So insulin resistance is an eating disorder?

You talk like it's only an eating disorder that can cause weight gain but it's not! One poster on here said a side effect of her meds for an illness was weight gain, her meds changed and the new side effect was weight loss but she feels like she doesn't deserve the weight loss because she hasn't earned it! That's just so sad, why does weight loss need to be suffering and earned?

Plus, from your own experience, you should be more understanding of those who do want to help themselves. However, well done for over coming your eating disorder.

It's this kind of attitude I don't get. Why are you so defensive of this topic if you're so determined that it's going to work? You're the one who keeps bringing this down to strength of character. It's baffling.

Weight loss, just like weight gain, is simple at the base of it. You consume more or less and move more or less. Support from a therapist licensed in eating disorders is also advisable.

But like you say, it's your body and if you're not interested in having a polite conversation about it all, that's your right. Best of luck.

@GiddyRobin btw I don't have an eating disorder diagnosis, I don't have an eating disorder. You've decided that, based of your opinions alone. You have had an eating disorder and I wonder if you're perhaps projecting and that some things are triggering you that wouldn't trigger other people.

@GiddyRobin I am fixing it. Well done to you for overcoming anorexia, you are a much better person than I. You must have a much better character and much higher personal determination than me or most other people.

I sadly need the help of medication, and will no doubt immediately regain any weight loss. At least it's only my time and money I'm wasting. Like all the previous time and money I've spent on countless weight loss approaches that didn't work.

I'm not just talking about weightloss. You're dreadfully defensive, aren't you?

I'm talking about finding the main cause of an eating disorder and recovering from it. Not just injecting shit into your body and hoping for the best. But you do you!

I've been on the thread since it started, thanks.

If people want to use the injections to give themselves the headspace to figure out their relationship with food and the food noise then surely it's a good thing?

This whole mentality that we have to suffer to lose weight is horrid, we have to earn weight loss otherwise it's not valid!

If you know what's causing you to overeat, then why not...stop? Forgive me for my bluntness, but as someone who has successfully recovered from severe anorexia in my late teens (I'm now mid thirties), the only solution to my problems was...to stop!

Damn hard work. I struggled for a long time and lived with a lot of pain, as do most people who go through recovery. But if you know the problem, it's down to you to fix it.

Its up to your DH what he puts in his body. Oh wait a min Has the dial moved post Covid 🤔

You talk as if that might not have occurred to people who have been significantly overweight for most of their lifetime. Of course, therapy will fix it, silly me.

I well know what causes me to overeat, therapy is not needed to identify that. What has never worked is any kind of talking therapy to change that. Believe me I have tried several different approaches to this! You think that this is the first solution that people try?? No.

What is fascinating to me is the biological cause of the urges to snack and overeat. It's clearly something that is a physical response, and not a mental failing or a lack of good character. I view the injections as a way of getting my system back to how it might have been had I not been overweight since childhood and on a permanent gain/loss/more gain cycle since then.

Don't be ridiculous. These injections last for a short space of time and then when they're gone, people have to deal with the reasons they'd gained weight to begin with.

Antidepressants or other meds for MH problems are used over longer periods of time, often in combination with therapy.

I don't think anyone does anything for my approval. Have you not read the bloody thread? OP is upset because her husband isn't offering approval/praise/support. I was reacting to that comment and why that might be.

What crap!

Would you say the same to someone with mental health issues that use meds?

And there seems to be a real misunderstanding that people who are injecting are sitting on their arses, eating fatty takeaways!

I can't eat a lot of food so my meals have to be highly nutritional, I can't eat fatty food because it will make me ill.

And it's amazing you think anyone does anything hoping for you approval! 🤣

If the drug only takes away food noise and you still have to work on diet and exercise, then why not get therapy instead, whilst working out and eating properly? That would be far more useful surely - getting to the source of the issue behind the overeating, and actively putting things in place to prevent it?

The way weight gain is being spoken of here sounds like ED territory. Those with restrictive ED's (who also suffer from food noise of a different kind) treat their disorder with therapy, time, support and patience. In order to overcome that mindset, they have to understand it and change it. The same stands for those with issues with overeating.

You can't treat a mental health problem with a year of injections and hope it will never return. Eating disorders are often life-long issues that need to be constantly worked on. Plus no one has any idea of the long term effects of these drugs.

I got bored.

@GiddyRobin nobody should be prescribed the injections for a "quick fix" because that's not how they work. It isn't quick. You have to be in a calorie deficit to lose any weight. I will expect to be on the injections for around a year minimum. Tell me what's quick about that?

The "food noise" has gone, that is part of the effect of the medication. It enables me to maintain a calorie deficit, amongst other aspects of the medication. I am very well aware that when I'm at a healthy weight and I stop taking the injections that the food noise might come back, and I will be taking action to address it. It's not going to come as a surprise! Clearly people think that it's impossible to maintain a weight loss after using these injections, I wonder why people feel so strongly about that? Especially when it's the same as any other diet or weight loss treatment.

Rest assured the only other person who will know is my partner, and if anyone mentions the weight loss I'll blame it on something that's not praise worthy so I don't get any undue and unjust positive comments!

I wouldn't be proud of someone who lost weight via injections of drugs. Just as I wouldn't be proud of someone who got the painters in to paint a nice mural in their living room. Would I offer compliments on how they looked or their mural looked? Sure.

Would I be interested in the process of either or want updates? No.

Now if someone was actively working out and making gains in the gym, cycling or running more miles, and cooking amazing recipes? Absolutely, I'd like to hear about it. Same as I'd like to hear about them painting a cool mural.

I also don't blame anyone for not wanting to inject themselves with chemicals to achieve weightloss. I kind of understand it for people who are dangerously overweight, but people who are using it as a quick fix to take away "food noise" is just odd to me. It'll all pile back on. Changing your lifestyle and mindset is what's needed, not drugs.

Tell me you didn't read what I wrote without telling me that you didn't read what I wrote.

i actually agree with you and I am on Wegovy myself! I have lost three stone nearly since January and whilst I’m delighted, I can’t say I feel proud of myself. I will feel proud if I can stay at this weight long term when I wean myself off the jabs. It has been life changing but “proud”…no!

Someone just said on here they stopped it and the ‘noise’ came back so they started it again.

We get it, you don't agree with it but please stop now. It's working for a lot of people, let us deal with what happens when we come off it, it's not your problem.

It’s funny you rarely see threads full of people expressing concerns about the use of other new drugs. It seems like people just don’t like that there’s help available for the fatties.
Yes there are potential risks involved. Most drugs do have rare but serious health risks. It’s for the patient to weigh up the risks of obesity versus the potential risks of the drug. Yes many people will put the weight back on, but people who lose weight the traditional way are also likely to put the weight back on. Statistically that’s true. For many people this drug is literally life changing- even life saving.

I don't think it's appropriate to expect someone to join you in taking any medication for any reason, it's his body his choice. Certainly not reasonable to expect him to take it so you've got someone to talk to!

That said, it's not appropriate for him to be disparaging and unsupportive of your weight loss - but as he is, turn to your online communities for support.

It's disturbing how cult-y these weight loss drugs are getting.

Not necessarily true. It's shown to a significant degree to reverse insulin resistance. Insulin resistance gives you cravings and food noise especially for sugar and carbs.

There's a lot of evidence that shows people who stay on a maintenance plan for 2 years have really good outcomes with GLP-1S and GLP-2s are coming up as even better with their benefits.

So once you've got to a healthy BMI and you've reversed your insulin resistance you're not guaranteed to get the same food noise back. Youre better in tune at listening to your body.

Also 1 to 2 years is a long time for people who will be making active healthy choices and to form new habits and forget old habits. Don't underestimate the power of building new habits.

I'm sure there's more than one way to skin a cat and reverse insulin resistance but I just wanted to point out that this is more effective than yo-yo dieting, and there's a risk of weight regain with every method of weight loss so that shouldn't be used as a deterrent for someone to start and make the change.

For the cynics, if losing weight while on a jab “doesn’t count” then does improving your mental health while on antidepressants “count”? If you have a headache, is it “cheating” to take a paracetamol? You could just focus and put the effort in..

But you can’t tackle it if it’s not there? I don’t think as a long term plan it is helpful.

Absolutely. But for me it gives me the peace in my head to tackle it in readiness for coming off it.