DH and me on Mounjaro weightloss injections

My bariatric surgeon said this was a myth but what does he know!

The stomach cant stretch back to being 100% full size but you can easily overload yourself with high calorie foods, too often, very regularly. You are essentially on a diet for life to check your intake and output, also to make sure you dont keep losing.

This is nonsense and just goes to show you dont know what you're talking about

Some people do regain weight after surgery, its somewhat normal. Some people gain a bit, say about 10% or so, some people put on about 50%. Very rarely someone might put it all back on

The stomach doesnt 'stretch', the reason people put on weight is tht they eat very small amounts of highly calorific foods quite regularly.

The statistics of success from gastric surgery is much higher than other methods. So while some people do put some weight on/lots of weight on, its still the most successful form of weight loss tool.

The vast majority of the population get fat because its easy to overeat. Its a cop out to talk about 'emotional' eating for the majority (something Im a bit embarrassed to say is the case with me), its not emotional eating, its just nice and easy and enjoyable to eat too much, we are prone to greed as humans, like any animal given too much food, we even have fat pets in this country, are they eating emotionally?

Do we have more people with MH or emotional eating problems than the rest of the world? No, our society is set up to eat rubbish, too much of it, very regularly. Its that simple.

You're talking rubbish. People go on weight loss injections when their BMI is in the obese range and then are meant to take it for as long as it takes until their BMI is in the good range. I believe the current NICE limit on most injections is two years but this will likely change or have a maintenance dose added to it soon. Similarly, people take antidepressants for anywhere from 6 months up to forever if/until their mental state improves. You don't take a weight loss jab for a week, lose a few lbs, then stop as you seem to be implying. Their use is hugely similar to how antidepressants are used.

What do you mean by ‘properly’?

People are hospitalised by all sorts of medications all the time.

No, everybody doesn’t automatically regain the weight. And no one regains it instantly. Thats impossible.

Having been almost 24st, I hear you! Are you going to stay on the injections and how much are you down? A colleague has lost 3st, she was probably not as big as me after my surgery! She looks skinny as opposed to slim and is having to balance the injections and her calorie intake to maintain now.

But you're not her partner/friend. Would that make a difference if you saw a friend looking healthier?

Having lost 10 st through extremely hard graft, I then over the past 20 years put it all back on, combination of addictive personality (drug and alcohol issues in the family), a mobility limiting accident, very limiting, and giving up smoking. I've now lost that again through surgery. I sometimes can't walk, got stuck in the supermarket on Sunday, least amount of fun I've had for ages.

Am I cheating (as an acquaintance was told by her dp today) or did I do the right thing to support my future/not be a burden on the NHS in the future? I haven't had to see a doctor for obesity related reasons at any time, never even diabetic, literally went private and saw my surgeon.

The least I'd expect from my DH is a positive comment about anything I mentioned, particularly when I'm improving my health. What is his problem?

Total rubbish, they are licensed by the MHRA in the UK. They are prescribed by doctors and dispensed by registered pharmacists.

You don't "instantly" gain the weight back when you stop taking them. Some people will regain, as with all weight loss strategies, and some won't. Many people have kept most of the weight off for a period of years,

They are a safe as any other modern medicine, there are known possible side effects that are balanced against their effectiveness. Doctors are prescribing them privately. Just not the NHS, yet, except in some specific circumstances.

Good for you OP, can’t have been an easy decision to try it. As a self confessed gym rat the one thing I’ve said to my friends who’ve used weight loss injections is to make sure it’s fat you are losing and not muscle. This requires: a) higher levels of protein intake (ie prioritise protein at easy meal and b) lift weights ideally heavy (but have to start somewhere). Without this muscle will also be lost which will make weight gain in the future more likely.

re; husband, I’m dieting right now and my husband is bored by it. Fair enough it is boring…

He's probably worried about you; they aren't licensed at all and people have been hospitalised by them.
And when people stop taking them they instantly regain their weight.
If you want to lost weight do it properly

A weight loss injection?

There are no quick fixes when it comes to weightloss - its a matter of moving more and consuming less calories.

If these injections were safe ti use tgen doctors would be prescribing them regularly.

Very true. I was just eating shit things….Cakes, fried food (we eat an enormous amount of this in this country), fast food, snacks, crisps. Cut all of that out and basically eat plant based diet, healthy soups and stews etc. weight has gone. No UPF. It’s fairly simple but it takes a lot of self control and a total mind shift to how I see and relate to food. Go to Japan and you will see how little junk food or processed food there is there, hence no real obesity issues as it’s all very healthy stuff.

Why would I be pissed off you came up with an example?

I asked a question. Why are you so angry?

I am not following your point. Any medication could be deemed safe today and as science moves on later be deemed unsafe?

In 2023 the risks of Zantac were disputed. And it’s really not as simple as it was classed as safe one day and not another.

you were arguing that we have recent cases of drugs that were deemed safe and then it comes out years later they are not as safe as previously thought. That’s always going to happen.

The ‘food noise’ is driven by hormones. Therapy does not fix hormones.

You do know that the injections don’t melt away fat on their own? You still have to eat less (moving more is great for health but really doesn’t work for weight loss unless it’s extreme).

They regulate hunger hormones in people whose hormones have been disrupted by previous failed diets, ultra processed food or a genetic propensity to weight gain. It’s still an achievement and it still takes effort.

Without them, it would be impossible for me to lose weight - I have been trying for years and years.

Of course i bloody do Thats not the point. Or are you saying that when we are told something is safe we should automatically NOT believe it Cos that went down really well re. Covid vaccines didnt it. You are just pissed that i came up with a recent example instead of something like laudanum It cant be argued that the Ranitidine example was hundreds of years ago,

So, do you not take any medication, ever?

Ok then Lets mention oooh Zantac More commonly known by its proper medical name Ranitidine. Available OTC and prescribed by GPs (in stronger doses) for 38 years then all of a sudden back in 2019 Oh no sorry there are carcinogens in this that can cause cancer so we are taking it out of circulation and not making it anymore.

My personal experience has been this:

Up until 25, I was slim. As in 20% body fat, fit, toned, muscular. On the lower end of healthy BMI. I had been a consistent weight too for the previous decade- just replacing fat with muscle.

en route to turning 26, I went through extreme stress and by the time I was 27 my BMI had increased to obese. As I’m very short, it only took around 20kg over 2 years to get me from healthy to class 1 obese.

So I had counselling and CBT. They gave me advice but it pretty much started and ended with download this app, told to “make the change for you”, listen to sleep hypnosis etc. So I actually did seek mental health support first - but frankly there isn’t much support they can give. I think you’re naive about what therapy does!

I’m 28 now and MJ has helped me break the cycle of yo-yo dieting. As I used to naturally be slim and eat less, it’s helping me adopt my previous lifestyle on the days my mental health would have caused me to relapse. Plus my only diagnosis is stress due to my work. I know my mental health with improve once I have a different job, but also once I’m back to my normal weight.

The vast majority of people who are overweight/obese even morbidly obese dont have MH issues or eating disorders. We're in a society and culture where we just eat too much, its enjoyable, easy and cheap. Its also encouraged.

Most people just need a mechanism that will work that prevents wanting to or desiring the volume of food they eat

Potentially.

But my PCOS symptoms will reduce when I am a normal weight (I was a normal weight my whole life) which contributes to cravings, tiredness etc.

I am also building back up my exercise which helped me keep my adhd in check. So by the time I come off it, I will be back in the situation I was in for years. Which was handling my PCOS and adhd and food noise not being a huge issue.

Unfortunately, my ADHD on top of being attacked and developing PTSD, losing my mum and trying to deal with it all in pandemic wasn’t great for me and threw me into a spiral.

So I hope it will be easier to deal with. But what if it’s not? It’s still worth a try. I can either be obese and dealing with my issues. Or a healthy weight, able to exercise, less PCOS symptoms, less disruption from my adhd and dealing with my issues. The second one sounds far happy version of me and I would like to give it a try.

My point is that not every person who is obese suffers from these conditions.

I'm really confused as to why you're pushing this one agenda. Not everyone is obese for the same reason.

Your reluctance to provide sources to back up this claim is baffling.