"Stop being a Karen"

Are all Karens racist?

Thank you for having the strength 🙏

@Lndnmummy nope, not whattaboutery. It's perfectly possible to be upset about more than one thing. In the UK, now, the term is used against women and it's ok to be pissed about that and label it misogyny, which is what the context of this thread was. The historical roots of the term and the racial injustice in America is a whole other thing that we can ALSO be horrified and upset about but that's not the context of THIS discussion because whether some posters like it or not the term has evolved and is used differently.

Are you denying the fact that white middle class women weaponising tears and fear cause harm to black
men and black boys?

The first time my black son was targeted by such a woman (aka a karen), he was 4. 4!!! Read that again.

For any remaining ignoramuses out there, the power of the Karen:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/27/opinion/racism-white-women.html

How White Women Use Themselves as Instruments of Terror

"We often like to make white supremacy a testosterone-fueled masculine expression, but it is just as likely to wear heels as a hood. Indeed, untold numbers of lynchings were executed because white women had claimed that a black man raped, assaulted, talked to or glanced at them. The Tulsa race massacre, the destruction of Black Wall Street, was spurred by an incident between a white female elevator operator and a black man. As the Oklahoma Historical Society points out, the most common explanation is that he stepped on her toe. As many as 300 people were killed because of it. The torture and murder of 14-year-old Emmett Till in 1955, a lynching actually, occurred because a white woman said that he "grabbed her and was menacing and sexually crude toward her". This practice, this exercise in racial extremism has been dragged into the modern era through the weaponizing of 9-1-1, often by white women, to invoke the power and force of the police who they are fully aware are hostile to black men. This was again evident when a white woman in New York's Central Park told a black man, a bird-watcher, that she was going to call the police and tell them that he was threatening her life."

Heartbreaking. What gets me every single time on these threads is the aghast indignation at the term Karen, rather than the behaviour of the people being labelled the term. It is infuriating and heart breaking in equal measure.

Endless whataboutery, page after page after page.

White privilege.

Ahaha 🤣🤣 oh gosh, you’ve got me there!!

I’m not actually white but even if I was ‘idiot’ is in no way racist, so what is your point?

Not this again🙄

She didn’t say white women had more power than white men, you lied about that.

Ooo I love it when people get insulting to try and ‘win’ an argument! Always works 😉

Are you forgetting that you’ve just been deleted for calling @Eldrick47s an ‘absolute idiot’?

Or is that allowed because you’re white?

That's precisely what they did.

Are you being deliberately ignorant?

But that’s not what the previous poster said 🤣

Ooo I love it when people get insulting to try and ‘win’ an argument! Always works 😉

It’s not about doing her bidding, it’s about using the white woman’s claims as an excuse to lynch black men.

Seriously if a book is too much trouble, watch To Kill a Mocking Bird.

Er the previous poster did; she said that white women were ‘precious’ and white men would do anything to protect them, ergo, if a white woman lied and said a black man raped her, white men would do her bidding and kill the black man/men

Yes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till

And that white woman is called the classic example of the Karen.

The second era Ku Klux Klan started after the 1915 screening of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birth_of_a_Nation#Audience_reaction

Click on that link, now that's the power of the Karen. A man fired shots at the screen to help the precious white woman running from the "big bad black man".

Missed these ones 😀

No one said white women had more power than white Ken.

You’re being deliberately obtuse. A white woman saying a black man looked at her funny gave the white man the perfect excuse to beat him up or lynch.

Read a book sometime.

I am only on page 6 so apologies if this has already been said

i am especially enjoying the posters who state categorically that there is a make version and it is ken

or keith

or kevin

or dave

😀

So because one woman lied, that means ALL women at that time had more power than men? And men were just powerless victims, doing their bidding? Yeah, pull the other one 🤣🤣

@Lizzie67384

She’s right actually. Your ignorance is showing.

Read this. Trigger warning: distressing content.

A white woman who lied that a 14yo black boy grabbed her and was sexually crude to her admits she lied.

Decades too late, because he was beaten up and burned to death just based on her word.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/us/emmett-till-lynching-carolyn-bryant-donham.html

It's just another way of silencing women - especially middle-aged ones.

So you’re suggesting that at this time in America, white women had more power than white men and forced white men to attack and lynch black people?

Sigh.

https://time.com/5857023/karen-meme-history-meaning/

"The historical narrative of white women’s victimhood goes back to myths that were constructed during the era of American slavery. Black slaves were posited as sexual threats to the white women, the wives of slave owners; in reality, slave masters were the ones raping their slaves. This ideology, however, perpetuated the idea that white women, who represented the good and the moral in American society, needed to be protected by white men at all costs, thus justifying racial violence towards Black men or anyone that posed a threat to their power. This narrative that was the overarching theme of Birth of a Nation, the 1915 film that was the first movie to be shown at the White House, and is often cited as the inspiration for the rebirth of the KKK."

What do you call men who demand to see a manager?

It shows the white supremacist entity the Karen was formed in.

The Karen (racist american woman) didn't just appear out of thin air.

You have to understand the culture it was created in. The white woman was the highest standard of woman in a white supremacist entity that is america. She was precious. If a black person so much as looked at her he could be in serious trouble. Race riots, lynchings etc. were instigated by the Karen, while the man was the muscle who carried out the acts.