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Not to know how to manage my evenings with DD?

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BarbaraVineFan · 04/09/2024 18:42

I'm a single mum to an almost 5 year old DD who is just starting reception. I work full time as a teacher and don't have any family for childcare. She has been in preschool at my school for a year now.

Our routine currently is that DD is in after school club until 5.15- she has 'tea' there, which is something like cheesy pasta or a sausage roll. I pick her up and we get home about 5.45. I then give her a snack plate of a cheese or ham sandwich with lots of veg and fruit, something like cucumber, tomato, peppers and blueberries, and a yoghurt. She has this while watching TV 😳 and i use the time to decompress a bit from work but also to do things like laundry and housework . Then at about 6.45 we start the bedtime routine. I usually try to have her sleep by 7.45-8, since she has to be up at 6.45 in the morning. I then have my own dinner after she is in bed usually and i get my own work done then as well .

This has worked well for us this year but i am conscious that she will start to have reading and things to do in the evenings . Plus I am feeling guilty that i don't cook dinner (although she does get a hot lunch at school and also has the substantial 'tea' after school , so I'm not sure if she would eat another fullmeal).

The problem is that I can't work out how to change the evening routine. I.can't leave work any earlier and i don't really want to be putting DD to bed much later . How do people manage to get homework and dinner into the evenings ? Some sample timetables would be really helpful please ! Thanks in advance .

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Ottersmith · 04/09/2024 22:52

What's your salary? How much does that work out per hour? Maybe become a substitute teacher until she's older or something?

Seashellsbytheseashire · 04/09/2024 22:48

Can't you do the hours housework when she is in bed? Or even if you did half as you do now and half an hour when she's sleeping that would give you time to read with her. Other homework can be done on the weekend. If you work on her going to sleep on her own that will free up time for you to do that also. Or just accept that you need to lower standards and maybe do more housework on a weekend.

Dramatic · 04/09/2024 22:47

FusionChefGeoff · 04/09/2024 21:24

This might not help but actually I found reading at night absolutely awful when they were little as we were both so tired!!

We built it into our morning routine and got up 15 mins earlier to fit it in when everyone was feeling positive and well rested!

I think this depends on what kind of people you are, we're all night owls in this house so reading on a morning is totally out of the question, we're all like zombies 😂

LikeWeUsedToBe · 04/09/2024 22:44

Do you have a table in the kitchen? I always had a table in the kitchen and the kids do their reading and homework while I cook and clear up. If I'm not eating with the kids I would still cook it then. Now I've got a place with no room in the kitchen for a table it's thrown me and im behind with everything!

For reception age it's less than 5 mins a day for reading. I teach early years so my kids were reading before they started school meaning I could doss on reading practice in reception if needed. Even if you just recognise letters in signs on your commute and practice the sounds instead of the names you will be helping so much- that's how I taught mine I never sat them down to learn that young. If you don't have time you don't have time just do it both weekend days for 15 minutes.

If you read at bedtime run your finger along the words as you read and ask child to point to letter a etc a couple times.

But honestly so many parents don't read with their kids at all so anything is better than nothing

Smartiepants79 · 04/09/2024 22:42

BlossomValley · 04/09/2024 22:03

I would be looking for a new job if it was taking over my life to that extent.

I’m a primary teacher and on the days I work I leave at 3.30, collect children at 4/4.15, play/cook/sort bags and homework etc until dinner at 6. Everyone eats together and then start bedtime routine.

You must be incredibly stressed.

You leave school at 3:30 on every day you work?? Really? What about staff meetings or clubs or parents evenings or clearing up and planning for the next day or marking?? My school only finishes at 3:20. There are still kids to supervise at 3:30.
I do think that it’s possible to leave approximately 30 mins after the school day finishes on some days and if you are extremely organised.
When do you do all your planning and marking?

BlossomValley · 04/09/2024 22:38

I would imagine your role has a lot more work involved than mine.

I get to work for 7.15/7.30 so have until 8.45 to get stuff done. I work through lunch if needed. I’ve been in the same year group for ages so have all the resources and know what I’m doing. I have a really good TA.

I do work part time but this was exactly the same when I was full time and a couple of full time colleagues do the same. Our school isn’t particularly family friendly but I’m not prepared to sacrifice my family life for work and am not interested in a promotion so if it doesn’t get done then so be it.

I do think teaching is a career where you could work constantly and never feel done. You have to draw the line somewhere.

Noseybookworm · 04/09/2024 22:37

BarbaraVineFan · 04/09/2024 20:03

Thanks, but I'm not sure about this idea. I think she needs a bit of downtime.

Sadly she is allergic to lentils and pulses (they are part of the legume family)

You could make a chicken & veg soup on Sunday and heat that up during the week? Or a bolognese sauce and then just heat up while you cook some pasta? Just thinking of winter when you both might want something hot when you get home! Otherwise your evening routine sounds fine, reading is only 10 mins in reception and can be done at bedtime or after tea.

BarbaraVineFan · 04/09/2024 22:10

BlossomValley · 04/09/2024 22:03

I would be looking for a new job if it was taking over my life to that extent.

I’m a primary teacher and on the days I work I leave at 3.30, collect children at 4/4.15, play/cook/sort bags and homework etc until dinner at 6. Everyone eats together and then start bedtime routine.

You must be incredibly stressed.

Genuine question @BlossomValley - how do you manage to get everything done for your job? There is no way I could leave school at 3.30 and I don't know many full time teachers who work fewer hours than I do. I'm head of a core subject in secondary though, so maybe I have more to do than some, but I thought most teachers worked hours like I do no matter what their role really

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BlossomValley · 04/09/2024 22:03

I would be looking for a new job if it was taking over my life to that extent.

I’m a primary teacher and on the days I work I leave at 3.30, collect children at 4/4.15, play/cook/sort bags and homework etc until dinner at 6. Everyone eats together and then start bedtime routine.

You must be incredibly stressed.

BarbaraVineFan · 04/09/2024 21:56

Wow, thanks for the replies everyone! Just to make a few points/answer questions -

Bedtime routine is go upstairs, have a wash and brush teeth, get into pjs, I read her a story and then she gets into bed and we have cuddles and kisses, then she listens to an audiobook to fall asleep. The whole thing seems to take about an hour from when we go upstairs to when she falls asleep (she still needs me in the room to fall asleep, but I use the time to send work emails on my phone usually!). We don't usually do a bath every night, just a quick wash or shower, but it still takes time somehow. It's probably the falling asleep part that is the longest.

Regarding food, as I have already mentioned, unfortunately eggs are out as DD has only recently grown out of an egg allergy and she doesn't yet like them. She is also allergic to fish (so no tuna mayo) and legumes (so no hearty soups with lentils or chickpeas).

I don't think I could work any less - 50 hours is the bare minium to get my job done (45 at school and 5 at home per week). And I definitely can't cut my hours. I don't get a penny from DD'S dad (long story, not for this thread!) and I need every penny I make.

From the thread so far, there have been lots of helpful suggestions and I'm.taking them all on board! Thank you all. Please do keep them coming 😊

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raindropsrain · 04/09/2024 21:55

Just want to say that mama you are doing a great job with your little one. You are working and managing - the fact that you are thinking you should be doing more just shows how much you care. I think all she wants is to be close to you in the evening and days you are off work/weekends!

EdgarAllenRaven · 04/09/2024 21:50

I think this sounds fine! Try not to worry, v similar to our routine :)

weAllWanttheBest · 04/09/2024 21:46

If she is eating good food that is all fine. Try cooking on the weekends and see what does she like.

She is very easy child tbh. There are so many of us who had tremendous journeys with our kids eating

MsNeis · 04/09/2024 21:43

Can you:

  • have dinner with her and use this time to connect and maybe read aloud instead of tv (during and after, she can do homework)
  • do the laundry/work after she's asleep?
It's a change in order: take this time to connect with her after all day apart. And after she goes to sleep, time for you/work/house.

I hope you find the right routine: I find routines very important and sometimes I struggle too, so can relate. But I'm not a single parent! I sincerely salute you! 🙌

VestaTilley · 04/09/2024 21:41

My DD has just started year 1. DH or I pick him up from after school club about 5:10pm, then walk home (nearby).

One of us always does a hot meal and we eat together as a family (often something quick like baked potato or fish cakes and veg, something fancier if one of has WFH that day and had a good break at lunch). My rule after school mid week is no TV (he watches a lot in the mornings pre school) so DS plays in the kitchen/diner while I prep dinner or he “helps” me prep the meal.

Then we eat together and he’ll play for 20 minutes or so or we’ll do his homework (this is usually just weekly), and I’ll sit with him as we have a sofa in the kitchen/diner/play area, or I’ll read to him/get him to read to me.

Then it’s bath at about 6.30pm, bedtime stories and songs/nursery rhymes and I stay with him til he falls asleep around 7.30/45pm.

Could you batch cook a bit at weekends then eat together after school? Reading practice/homework should only take 10-20 minutes in reception.

Go easy on yourself; you can only do what you can.

Babbahabba · 04/09/2024 21:40

An hour seems a long time for the bedtime routine- what do you do?

middleagedandinarage · 04/09/2024 21:33

It's so hard, I only work 3 days (not even 3 in a row) and find it a struggle, genuinely don't know how people manage to maintain it for 5 days. Only thing I could suggest that might save you a bit of time is you have tea same time as DD, then once she's in bed you're not starting food prep/eating again and you can then just get straight to house duties/work. Honestly, not sure what your financial situation is like but personally I would considering cutting my hours or looking for a job where I was at home more. I feel like that situation long term is not sustainable! I guess on the plus at least you have school holidays. Sorry if that's not helpful

1AngelicFruitCake · 04/09/2024 21:32

Can you leave earlier some evenings just to give yourselves a break?

Some nights I do quite a bit of work so I can have others off. Could you do that and put cleaning and washing on the off nights or do more at the weekend?

KurtShirty · 04/09/2024 21:26

Araminta1003 · 04/09/2024 20:06

Also, more than homework I just find the most important thing with DC these days, especially girls, is talking to them before bed about their day (if they want to). So much comes out and it is a lifesaver if they still talk to you and keep you in the loop when they are teens.

Out if interest why especially girls?

FusionChefGeoff · 04/09/2024 21:24

This might not help but actually I found reading at night absolutely awful when they were little as we were both so tired!!

We built it into our morning routine and got up 15 mins earlier to fit it in when everyone was feeling positive and well rested!

Dramatic · 04/09/2024 21:22

I'd say by the time she starts getting proper homework (unless she's at a really pushy school) she'll probably be going to bed 30 minutes to an hour later than she is now which gives plenty of time after her snack to get it done before bedtime.

mathanxiety · 04/09/2024 21:20

Sunflowersinthewind · 04/09/2024 19:11

How much laundry are you doing? Buy enough clothes to do washing on the weekend so 5 x everything for school etc if you can afford it. Do only the basic cleans each day, eg wipe the surfaces. Invest in a robot vacuum again if you can afford. Minimise all qeekly activity to build back time. I feel for you as my DS had a similar routine at that age.

Yes to this ^

mathanxiety · 04/09/2024 21:19

You have quite a long bedtime routine - what does it consist of?

I'd be fine with her eating what she eats while watching TV. Maybe include more protein choices if you know she only had cheesy pasta for the afternoon meal. A scrambled egg or egg mayo might work, or tuna mayo.

How much laundry do two people generate, and how much mess is there to clean up daily?

I'd do reading practice as much as possible during the week and take the weekend to do longer stretches and read to her.

I'd also take the weekend to do some batch cooking - making a bolognese sauce or cooking a hearty soup wouldn't take too long (and she could help you). Then you'd have something to serve every day instead of having to spend time cutting up veggies and making sandwiches every night.

I'd also try to get all the laundry done on the weekend too. Do you have a dryer?

booisbooming · 04/09/2024 21:15

You sound absolutely fine and normal btw. The annoying thing about our after school club was they did their tea about 4.30. ALWAYS ended up doing something else after. I can now make scrambled egg on toast in under 2 minutes though.

Petesdragoness · 04/09/2024 21:14

We have a similar, very busy life. I always say I'm "time poor"

Home at 5.30.
DD watches tv/plays whilst I cook tea, with aim to sit down for 6, finished at 6.30. I think this 30 mins whilst I cook is when homework time will likely be.
Tidy up and feed the pets takes 15 minutes which she will then have some dessert or play/tv
If it's a bath night, we're usually done by 7.15.
We then settled down together and watch some relaxing tv/film and have a glass of milk then read a book in her bed where she's in bed for 8.
That gives us 1-2 hours for ourselves to either tidy/sort packed lunches, relax before sleep for 10.

It's tight and we have to be careful with time otherwise it's a domino effect.