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Teacher Banning 8 y.o. DS from bringing Bunny vs Monkey books to school for his friends to read

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alixpally · 04/09/2024 17:30

First day of school, and DS, 8, has been banned by his new teacher from bringing Bunny vs Monkey books to school for his friends to read - am I being unreasonable to be a bit miffed? Last year, he developed a habit of bringing lots of his favourite books in to school to lend to his friends to read during class reading time. This included Jamie Smart books, which were very popular. Today he came home crying because his new teacher has banned him from bringing any more Jamie Smart books, deeming them "rude, violent and inappropriate". I mean, yes, there is a bit of toilet humour, but it's not exactly Marvel comics - these are award winning books and frankly pretty cute and funny actually.
I can understand she may wish to discourage anarchic behaviour (and humour, I guess) but practically every book has violence built into the plot in some way (witness Grimm bros). I feel uneasy about a teacher who would discourage children from reading and sharing books. Should I do anything?

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discocherry · 04/09/2024 19:26

I make all my children have at least one novel or decent non fiction book to read alongside graphic novels like this because I think they’re rubbish honestly - I’m all about the rights of the reader etc but if I let them have their way it’s literally all they’d read. They’re good for a first step for reluctant readers. But I don’t ban it and certainly not because they’re inappropriate?!

FragileWookiee · 04/09/2024 19:26

My son started reading bunny vs monkey because the school had a subscription to the phoenix comics!

wadeinthewater · 04/09/2024 19:24

Maybe she's worried that another child will go home and repeat a bit of the toilet humor stuff, and then other parents might complain to the school.

As a side note, I have an 8 year old boy too and I'm now off to Google the books!

Yousay55 · 04/09/2024 19:21

It’s up to the teacher, but what a sad thing to do. The books are great at encouraging reluctant readers.

berriesandchocolateflowers · 04/09/2024 19:19

If she wants to define a culture you have to let her. It’s part of establishing order and concensus at that age. I don’t think it’s right your DS goes in on the first day and brings a culture with him when she has not got to know anyone yet, no matter how well intentioned and educational

Newoldnameplease · 04/09/2024 19:17

There are far worse books for children.(cough...anything by David Walliams)

Zoopet · 04/09/2024 19:13

Sigh.
Just let the teacher get on with teaching.
She doesn't need any extra crap or aggro.
There's a world of literature out there and it's part of her job to introduce him to new genres.
Keep home books for home and let him share them with his friends out of school.

TheKeatingFive · 04/09/2024 19:12

noblegiraffe · 04/09/2024 18:43

Saying that the kid should lend the books outside of school is fine.

Saying that she doesn't want them swapping them in her lessons because it's distracting or because she wants them to pick from the class selection is fine.

What is not fine is telling a boy who is excited about reading that she doesn't approve of his reading choices when they are completely age-appropriate books.

100% agree with this

TheKeatingFive · 04/09/2024 19:11

I think that's a real shame. They're fun books and brilliant for those who might be a bit more reluctant. I thought teaching was a bit more enlightened nowadays, surely encouraging readjng for pleasure should be a big priority?

Kitkat1523 · 04/09/2024 19:09

LoremIpsumCici · 04/09/2024 17:48

Her class her rules

Unless they are stupid rules that adversely affect my child’s desire to and enjoyment of reading.

Still her rules….home school your kid if you have an issue ..but don’t expect a teacher to allow a random kid to bring his books into class to be distributed and read by his classmates in class time….fucking ridiculous ….obviously you have no respect for teachers unless they are doing things your way 🙄

alixpally · 04/09/2024 19:07

Haha! yes he basically is the class librarian. He came up with this mobile library idea when he'd fallen out with his mate, and it helped him make other friends (his book bag weighed tons).
But it does make sense that we should back the teacher, and I do sympathise with concerns about having to police children's possessions swaps.
Many thanks for the great perspectives on this, great food for thought.

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Miffylou · 04/09/2024 19:07

Should you do anything? Yes - respect the teacher's wishes. Why can’t he just lend them to his friends out of school?

The books are good comic fun but in my experience encourage chikdren to act out "play" fights and lots of fart jokes. I don’t blame the teacher for not wanting to encourage that in school. I don’t suppose she's trying to make the children read Dickens, but there are more worthwhile books they could be reading in school time.

Fireplacewatcher · 04/09/2024 19:06

Ineffable23
spot on!

RuleWithAWoodenFoot · 04/09/2024 19:06

I'm thinking about it more and I'm gutted for this child - and irritated with the teacher. I would love nothing more than a kid coming to school with completely age appropriate books to share and talk about with his friends. That's an absolute JOY to watch and encourage. One of my favourite parts of being a teacher.

Kitkat1523 · 04/09/2024 19:05

LoremIpsumCici · 04/09/2024 17:46

I’d have a word with the teacher and if not happy, a firmer word with the head.
Those books are fine and the teacher is killing children’s joy in reading.

So you would expect a headteacher to overrule a class teacher because a mum wants her DS to be able to lend his books so that other children can read them in the class teachers class time?? ….WTAF 🙄

VerbenaGirl · 04/09/2024 19:04

Is it worth a quick chat with the teacher to understand her reasoning?

Smineusername · 04/09/2024 19:04

The teacher is out of order shaming your son for the reading he enjoys. We studied comic books on my MA (on a course that then ranked third in the world), they regularly feature on university syllabi and have done for years. Perfectly adequate reading material and perfectly capable of being literature. Learning to read images alongside text is perhaps a key skill given that this is actually the dominant form of modern media.Is she going to ban the BFG because of fart jokes? Or Chaucer?

blackbird77 · 04/09/2024 19:02

Could it possibly be that a parent of one of the other kids has complained about their child accessing/reading the book so the teacher has discouraged him from sharing it? Or there have been friendship issues and internal politics around kids sharing things and fallouts over silly things? That sounds most likely to me. Very doubtful that the average teacher would be concerned about the book content at all. I'm a teacher and 9/10 if we have to ask a child to refrain from interacting with another child or stop an action that on the surface seems harmless, it's because the other child/parent has asked us to discourage/stop it.

Airdustmoon · 04/09/2024 19:02

SleepingStandingUp · 04/09/2024 18:58

have you tried him with diary of a wimpy kid, and the treehouse books?

Thanks, yes! He likes me reading both of those to him, but still resists my attempts to get him to read them to himself. Ah well - we keep going with me reading to him for now. Sometimes we take it in turns and he reads a chapter to me and I then read two to him (the division of labour is very unfair!)

RuleWithAWoodenFoot · 04/09/2024 19:01

Franjipanl8r · 04/09/2024 18:58

I’d be really pissed off if my dyslexic child of the same age was being distracted from her set reading by another child bringing in other books and encouraging her to read them.

Schools work hard in setting books for different abilities. They absolutely don’t need you and your son meddling and thinking they know better.

This is really short sighted, and frankly just wrong. Reading for pleasure is a big thing in primary schools right now, all children should have access to all books and reading materials suitable for their age. 'Set reading' books are dull as sh*t most of the time.

RuleWithAWoodenFoot · 04/09/2024 19:00

BvM are gateway books for many reluctant readers/children with SEND/literacy difficulties - especially at age 8, and especially boys. I consider Jamie Smart to be almost a god. I'd be moaning to the school I'm afraid. I'm a teacher.

YourWildAmberSloth · 04/09/2024 18:59

Do it outside of school - he can still share his books and the school doesn't have to deal with the drama if books get lost, or damaged or if a parent objects to the content.

SleepingStandingUp · 04/09/2024 18:58

Airdustmoon · 04/09/2024 18:56

My DS, also 8, hasn’t read these as he doesn’t love pure comic books but literally the only books he has ever read to himself (and even then, only with much persuasion) is Captain Underpants which probably isn’t so different. I will happily buy him any old rubbish if it means he reads. But I wouldn’t get too worked up about this, teachers have been disapproving of popular books since forever - I remember at the same sort of age being told by my teacher that I shouldn’t be reading Enid Blyton as it was so poorly written - well fuck that, I still love Enid Blyton 😊

have you tried him with diary of a wimpy kid, and the treehouse books?

Franjipanl8r · 04/09/2024 18:58

I’d be really pissed off if my dyslexic child of the same age was being distracted from her set reading by another child bringing in other books and encouraging her to read them.

Schools work hard in setting books for different abilities. They absolutely don’t need you and your son meddling and thinking they know better.

Minesril · 04/09/2024 18:57

BvM is hilarious. Looshkin is even funnier!

My son is a massive Phoenix fan and comics in general. He also writes his own comics. He has a fantastic imagination. But I suppose some on here would say 'he's not really reading'. Ah well I'll continue to carry the memory of the writers at Phoenixfest who all said really lovely things about his comic that he showed them. (Still recovering from the Jamie Smart meet and greet queue...)

And these books are gateways to other more serious comics (or 'graphic novels'), which surely generate really good class discussions. Would anyone say that No Country 'isn't really reading'? Or The Arrival, which is all pictures and would make an excellent class book?

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