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Teacher Banning 8 y.o. DS from bringing Bunny vs Monkey books to school for his friends to read

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alixpally · 04/09/2024 17:30

First day of school, and DS, 8, has been banned by his new teacher from bringing Bunny vs Monkey books to school for his friends to read - am I being unreasonable to be a bit miffed? Last year, he developed a habit of bringing lots of his favourite books in to school to lend to his friends to read during class reading time. This included Jamie Smart books, which were very popular. Today he came home crying because his new teacher has banned him from bringing any more Jamie Smart books, deeming them "rude, violent and inappropriate". I mean, yes, there is a bit of toilet humour, but it's not exactly Marvel comics - these are award winning books and frankly pretty cute and funny actually.
I can understand she may wish to discourage anarchic behaviour (and humour, I guess) but practically every book has violence built into the plot in some way (witness Grimm bros). I feel uneasy about a teacher who would discourage children from reading and sharing books. Should I do anything?

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RedToothBrush · 12/09/2024 08:52

@alixpally I hope you see this!

RedToothBrush · 12/09/2024 08:51

😍

Jamie Smart is a good 'un.

He's doing lots of work promoting about reaching kids who are reluctant readers.

He doesn't NEED to do this.

Bunny v Monkey shifted it's millionth copy last week.

TheKeatingFive · 12/09/2024 08:40

Amazing 😍

EllieQ · 12/09/2024 08:23

@alixpally Jamie Smart has just found out about this thread and posted about it on twitter - he’d like to get in touch !

Jamie Smart twitter

SleepingStandingUp · 07/09/2024 11:30

noblegiraffe · 05/09/2024 14:08

Most of all they are cartoons strips.It I'd all dialogue.where is the descriptive writing, where are the literary devices?

Yeah, you can't do anything with cartoons....(this is also Jamie Smart)

Omg 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 (huge Jamie Smart fans here)

alixpally · 06/09/2024 16:54

Hi everyone, thanks again for the excellent debate... Just a quick update to say it was a bit of a storm in a teacup, as next day the teacher was OK with the bringing of other books (Three Musketeers full length novel and Pokemon annuals) so perhaps it was about Bunny v Monkey possibly encouraging "the sillies" as, someone put it (it probably would!). We're still fans of Jamie Smart and Dav Pilkey books and happy to recommend. Also anything by Philip Reeve and Sarah Mcintyre, their books are adorable.

I hadn't realised bringing books in was contentious, though now can see that it could cause stress. Our teacher last year welcomed it, and DS was running his little book club without incident for most of the year. It wasn't just graphic novels, but all sorts of books, some relevant to what they were studying (they were allowed to choose their reading materials during reading time, so it didn't interfere with other set work).

Anyway, cheers, everyone! xx ;-)

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cherish123 · 06/09/2024 09:41

OakTree16 · 04/09/2024 20:47

I’m a teacher and I got a headache just reading your post. Will be nothing to do with the content of the books and everything to do with the distractions and time taken up by children bringing in their own things from home. I would be happy for one child to bring in one book to read themselves but i would absolutely say no to a child bringing in books for others. One will get lost/ripped/won’t be enough for everyone who wants one and the teacher would have to deal with that and won’t have time.

Exactly.

Why don't you donate a set to the class library.

MirandaJH · 06/09/2024 05:34

Is there a rule where children shouldn’t really be bringing in stuff from home? I can understand if that’s the case? If not, just have an informal discussion with the teacher about why it’s such a problem- maybe it’s too distracting in class? If it’s a matter of personal taste, the teacher is being unreasonable but is it worth causing an issue with the teacher? Your child is the one who has to deal with them daily and it might just be easier to explain to him why it can’t be brought in.

Needmorelego · 05/09/2024 15:38

If graphic novels are so dreadful and not "proper books" why is this on just about every recommended reading list for GCSE/A-level ?

Teacher Banning 8 y.o. DS from bringing Bunny vs Monkey books to school for his friends to read
TheKeatingFive · 05/09/2024 15:30

Most of all they are cartoons strips.It I'd all dialogue.where is the descriptive writing, where are the literary devices

So people think graphic novels/comics can't use literary devices.

Crikey 🫠

Parkerpenny · 05/09/2024 14:38

Go in and talk to the teacher if you want clarification. Mumsnet is not going to give you any answers for a decision the teacher has made for an individual class in a particular school.

RedToothBrush · 05/09/2024 14:15

noblegiraffe · 05/09/2024 14:08

Most of all they are cartoons strips.It I'd all dialogue.where is the descriptive writing, where are the literary devices?

Yeah, you can't do anything with cartoons....(this is also Jamie Smart)

BvM is a gateway drug to Flember.

Flember is also by Jamie Smart.
Its a real life 'proper' old fashioned book.

Sartre · 05/09/2024 14:13

Speak to her and get to the bottom of precisely why she has told him not to bring them in first. Perhaps she thinks they’re encouraging silly behaviour? I haven’t read them but I know some teachers felt Horrid Henry was guilty of this a few years ago.

I’m an English Lit lecturer desperately trying to keep the subject alive so no books are off limits with my DC, honestly anything we can do to keep kids reading is fine by me.

JazbayGrapes · 05/09/2024 14:12

I think teacher just doesn't want any distractions in classroom, which is fairly reasonable.

noblegiraffe · 05/09/2024 14:08

Most of all they are cartoons strips.It I'd all dialogue.where is the descriptive writing, where are the literary devices?

Yeah, you can't do anything with cartoons....(this is also Jamie Smart)

Teacher Banning 8 y.o. DS from bringing Bunny vs Monkey books to school for his friends to read
Teacher Banning 8 y.o. DS from bringing Bunny vs Monkey books to school for his friends to read
TheMarzipanDildo · 05/09/2024 13:47

smithy6 · 04/09/2024 23:04

Kids have to get used to rules. That’s life.

Come the revolution…

Ponoka7 · 05/09/2024 12:59

My granddaughter's class last year went through a really silly phase. They are 8/9. The boys were very disruptive and the girls suffered for it. The school has now stopped pupils coming in with PE kit on because the boys behaviour was different on those days. They allowed football kits, now they've gone back to uniform. I wouldn't necessarily question what a teacher needs to do to manage a class. She can deem them inappropriate for the classroom, but shouldn't be putting them down re reading at home.

Edingril · 05/09/2024 12:44

AngelinaFibres · 04/09/2024 17:54

Oh yes, do do this. You will entertain the staffroom for weeks.

😁

Needmorelego · 05/09/2024 12:43

@shockeditellyou it's sad that most comics are gone. They were cheap and easily available from newsagents everywhere.
Bunny vs Monkey is from the Phoenix Comic which was started as a way to get children excited about reading again.
Unfortunately it's often not available in actual shops. WHSmith sell it but I rarely see it in supermarkets or newsagents. Most readers get it on subscription through the post. It's fantastic it's popular but unless you know of it's existence (ie seeing it on the shelf) you wouldn't be buying it.

shockeditellyou · 05/09/2024 11:56

@Needmorelego that's a really good point. I wonder how much the decline in comics has harmed literacy rates in young children?

Needmorelego · 05/09/2024 10:52

It does make me laugh when people get all snobby about comic books/graphic novels.
I recently joined a Facebook group for old British comics (Eagle, Bunty, Battle, Tammy etc).
Basically if someone was a child between the 1940s and 1990s they would have read at least one weekly comic. More if they had generous parents or swapped with siblings/friends. For 50 or so years children had the fantastic pleasure of weekly chapters of sometimes up to 10 different stories.
Different genres all in one comic.
You had your Victorian orphans, ponies boarding schools, comp schools. Sci fi ones. Futuristic utopia/distopia, War stories, Spy stories, adventure stories, silly stories, stories about step families, stories about friendship, stories about haunted dolls and evil cameras.
Oh I could go on......
Sadly these most excellent comics mostly died out towards the end of the 80s/early 90s. Now we have whole generations who have never had that pleasure and joy.
I keep meaning to read these Bunny vs Monkey books. I must get on with doing that 😂

mm81736 · 05/09/2024 10:34

Op you do not know the children, you do not know their readings ability, you do not know their parents and whether they are likely to come in and complain.
She maybe does not want your ds playing favourites with his books.
Most of all they are cartoons strips.It I'd all dialogue.where is the descriptive writing, where are the literary devices?
You are not responsible for the children learning these things. She is!

There is nothing in the op to say the teacher publicly criticised his reading choices. She said to her DS ( we jave no knowledge this was privatelu or publicly) they were inappropriate for her reading class.

Finally, an 8 year old still crying about this at home is frankly bizarre! Thr reason he is so upset is because he was using this to boost his popularity and influence amongst his peers, which is another good reason for stopping it.
It isn't your class, it isn't up to you to decide how to run the class.Butt out!

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 05/09/2024 00:51

There are also some amazing graphic novels and webcomics out there for adults that are as absorbing, well-written, densely plotted and creative as any "proper book".

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 05/09/2024 00:50

WanOban · 04/09/2024 23:36

Kids in my child’s class also going mad for Bunny v Monkey. It’s a publishing phenomenon and really encouraging that it’s published by a small independent publisher (last time I checked anyway, who knows now as Random house hoovers up everything).

It’s wonderful to see children devouring any books- especially the reluctant readers enjoying the same titles as bookworms. That’s the power of good comics/ graphic novels as they can be enjoyed by all. My daughter reads the chunky Harry Potter books one week and a Bunny v monkey the next.

Annoys me how snobby some people are about comics.

I agree. These books are often the first ones a kid reads alone. They teach kids that reading alone can be fun and not-scary. The whole point is that they are accessible and absorbing. They're not the end of the journey, they're the beginning of it.

WanOban · 04/09/2024 23:36

Kids in my child’s class also going mad for Bunny v Monkey. It’s a publishing phenomenon and really encouraging that it’s published by a small independent publisher (last time I checked anyway, who knows now as Random house hoovers up everything).

It’s wonderful to see children devouring any books- especially the reluctant readers enjoying the same titles as bookworms. That’s the power of good comics/ graphic novels as they can be enjoyed by all. My daughter reads the chunky Harry Potter books one week and a Bunny v monkey the next.

Annoys me how snobby some people are about comics.