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To think this comment about women with no female friends is problematic?

316 replies

Newlifeincoming · 04/09/2024 15:47

I saw a comment recently that said “women who don’t have any friends that are women are red flags. I don’t care what anyone says.”

I find this a bit troubling and potentially judgemental.

AIBU for thinking that this perspective is unfair and doesn’t account for individual circumstances or preferences? What do you think about this kind of statement?

OP posts:
KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 04/09/2024 16:53

MillyMollyMandHey · 04/09/2024 16:44

Honestly, anyone I've met who had no friends, apparently due to circumstances; it always transpired in time there was a reason.

There is a reason I have no friends, I don't want any. I spent years trying to people please when I was younger only to be used, abused and thrown away when they got a better offer. It got to the point where I didn't see the point in friends. Now, I'm very independent, I don't really need any people in my life tbh. I've never been lonely, the people I do have in my life are because I actively choose them to be there.

BellesAndGraces · 04/09/2024 16:53

If you live on a cattle ranch in the Australian outback surrounded by cowboys and cowboys alone or similar then, yeah, not a red flag to only have male friends but otherwise I do find it concerning.

ebts · 04/09/2024 16:53

Horrendously bullied at an all-girls school, probbly because of undiagnosed autism, I have found it very hard to make or sustain female friendships for most of my adult life. However, now I am well past retirement age and with more self-confidence than I have ever had in my life, I have made several close friendships with other women, and revelling in it.

HeyPrestoAlakazam · 04/09/2024 16:52

I think it says a lot about her. She sounds unpleasant and the statement reflects badly on her.

KimberleyClark · 04/09/2024 16:52

She might have been very badly bullied by girls at school and find it very difficult to trust women. Just one reason I can think of.

Startingagainandagain · 04/09/2024 16:50

I think it is a red flag, as it would be if a man had only female friends.

Anotherparkingthread · 04/09/2024 16:50

Ahh another example of some shit used by women to put down other women. It's exclusionary bullshit, promoted by the type of person who peaked at 15. How does one propose a women with no female friends makes any female friends if they have all declared her a red flag before knowing anything about her?

spaceshooter · 04/09/2024 16:50

Can someone explain what 'pick me' means please. Genuine question I've not dared ask before.

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 04/09/2024 16:50

Thepeopleversuswork · 04/09/2024 16:46

This. I don't have any friends, through choice. I cba with the emotional drain that has always been my experience that friends (male and female) are. DH is my best friend, and I'm pretty close to my parents, and adult dds. I don't have the time or energy for anyone else.

People who don’t need friends and only need their husband and “my little family” are a far bigger red flag than those who only have male friends imo.

You can’t navigate life and have proper perspective if you only rely on your family.

Why?

spaceshooter · 04/09/2024 16:49

Yes I agree and don't think YABU at all.

I love my fellow women and will always support my female mates. Strong women who support other strong women are the best thing in society as far as equality amongst the sexes is concerned in my view and experience.

On the down side I am old enough to have encountered some pretty unpleasant and unexplained issues with women that don't align my beliefs.

I enjoy the company of both men and women yet I won't deny some women I've known are petty and bitchy in ways men are not. Men manage to be arseholes in different ways.

Flibflobflibflob · 04/09/2024 16:49

MidwichCuckoo · 04/09/2024 16:47

I don't think people would see you as a red flag. It's more people that make friends with men but consider other women beneath them.

Yeah I would agree with that, I had a mum friend and we used to talk about demographic challenges and other interesting stuff. Women dismissing other women is ridiculous.

Toothrush · 04/09/2024 16:49

I mean I wouldn't judge an acquaintance that had no female friends (not that I'd know anyway!), but I agree with the statement that its a red flag so if I met someone and there was a chance of developing a friendship I'd be very wary to be honest.

Toothrush · 04/09/2024 16:49

I mean I wouldn't judge an acquaintance that had no female friends (not that I'd know anyway!), but I agree with the statement that its a red flag so if I met someone and there was a chance of developing a friendship I'd be very wary to be honest.

Spomb · 04/09/2024 16:48

I find anyone who only has friends of one sex a red flag.

MidwichCuckoo · 04/09/2024 16:48

Catslanding · 04/09/2024 16:47

I'm only friends with cats.

Sensible not a red flag.

SouthLondonMum22 · 04/09/2024 16:47

I have a few female friends but I have more male friends and my best friend is male.

I don’t see the issue at all.

kj7777 · 04/09/2024 16:47

Yes and no. Someone with no friends could just be really independent, or very quiet and shy, so a bit invisible to others, and that's not a red flag, imo. And having mostly men as friends could be from working in a mostly male-dominated business, or from hobbies where you meet a lot of men.

If it's accompanied by "I can't stand to be around other women, they're so difficult/dramatic" and general disdain, they're usually the problem themselves...

Catslanding · 04/09/2024 16:47

I'm only friends with cats.

Flibflobflibflob · 04/09/2024 16:47

Thepeopleversuswork · 04/09/2024 16:46

This. I don't have any friends, through choice. I cba with the emotional drain that has always been my experience that friends (male and female) are. DH is my best friend, and I'm pretty close to my parents, and adult dds. I don't have the time or energy for anyone else.

People who don’t need friends and only need their husband and “my little family” are a far bigger red flag than those who only have male friends imo.

You can’t navigate life and have proper perspective if you only rely on your family.

I think it depends, people who have zero help with childcare whilst working often are just really time poor. It’s extremely hard to build friendships like this, especially if you have to build new ones.

MidwichCuckoo · 04/09/2024 16:47

Flibflobflibflob · 04/09/2024 16:45

I don’t really have friends (moved etc) I would love some of any sex. I’d be a bit sad that someone thinks I’m a walking red flag.

I don't think people would see you as a red flag. It's more people that make friends with men but consider other women beneath them.

Flibflobflibflob · 04/09/2024 16:46

MillyMollyMandHey · 04/09/2024 16:44

Honestly, anyone I've met who had no friends, apparently due to circumstances; it always transpired in time there was a reason.

Er thank you….

Thepeopleversuswork · 04/09/2024 16:46

This. I don't have any friends, through choice. I cba with the emotional drain that has always been my experience that friends (male and female) are. DH is my best friend, and I'm pretty close to my parents, and adult dds. I don't have the time or energy for anyone else.

People who don’t need friends and only need their husband and “my little family” are a far bigger red flag than those who only have male friends imo.

You can’t navigate life and have proper perspective if you only rely on your family.

Flibflobflibflob · 04/09/2024 16:45

I don’t really have friends (moved etc) I would love some of any sex. I’d be a bit sad that someone thinks I’m a walking red flag.

MillyMollyMandHey · 04/09/2024 16:44

Honestly, anyone I've met who had no friends, apparently due to circumstances; it always transpired in time there was a reason.

midgetastic · 04/09/2024 16:44

When someone says to me they don't have female friends my assumption is that they have experienced exclusion by women and girls because they are gender none conforming

You may think they are misogynistic, but it is misogynistic stereotypes that often create that person