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Savings for children differences

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Bedheadready · 04/09/2024 10:46

my husband and I have 1 child and another on the way. From he was 1 week old we set up a junior ISA that we pay into from our joint account every month and he should have approx £30k when he’s 18. I intend to do the same with the new baby when it’s born.

husband has 2 children from a previous relationship. The relationship with his ex gf is very strained as is the relationship with the children. They have no ISA or savings set up for them by us. I am just afraid it will cause more resentment when they are 18 and don’t get what my children will. Differences are already noticed by pure virtue of me earning a significant salary that will continue to rise over the next number of years.

aibu to think we should open something for them too or is it just life.

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LittleOwl153 · 04/09/2024 18:12

JustMarriedBecca · 04/09/2024 11:39

You can't just shift money to a parent account. The reason people have children's accounts is because of tax savings limits and tax benefits. Just tell the older kids that the savings came from you, their mother. If they even ask or notice at all.

There are other ways to be supportive of step children than financially. Not everything can be equal. I say this as the wife of a step child.

Sorry that was confusing... I meant shift the standing order into the kids account away from the joint account - so the money comes out of her own personal account not the joint account with SDCs dad. Essentially so the joint DCs money comes from their mum not their mum and dad...

GreatMistakes · 04/09/2024 13:07

Bedheadready · 04/09/2024 11:00

He never thought about saving until I set up the junior isa for our first baby. He couldn’t afford to pay the same amount for them all

The amount he can afford should be split 4 ways and equally across his children.

Anything else makes him a shitty dad.

If you put in £80 and him £20, therefore saving £100, he split thst £20 between his 4 kids i.e. he should put in £5 each.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/09/2024 13:02

@Bedheadready Could your husband afford to pay half the amount that you jointly pay into your child's account into a savings account for each of his other children?

For example, if you're currently paying £100 per month from your joint account into your child's ISA, arguably you're paying £50 per month each. So could he afford to pay £50 per month for his other children?

Or is the reality that it is coming from your joint account but you are financing it all?

Barrenfieldoffucks · 04/09/2024 12:57

Bedheadready · 04/09/2024 11:00

He never thought about saving until I set up the junior isa for our first baby. He couldn’t afford to pay the same amount for them all

Then he needs to split what he can afford across all of them, even if that means your child getting less from him

MoosakaWithFries · 04/09/2024 12:53

As he's reducing hours to support you then it's fair that you contribute.

Autumnismyfavouritetimeofyear · 04/09/2024 11:45

I think they should have savings too. Whether you contribute to that is up to you and your partner. He made the decision to have this many kids - he needs to treat them all properly.

Alwayslostthedummy · 04/09/2024 11:41

I initially thought YANBU but then after your update I think YABU. Your husband is reducing his hours to support your higher paid career, if a woman here did that she would be told her DH should be contributing to her DCs savings.

Do you both pay all your salary into one account? And your joint DC savings come from this? It would perhaps be more sensible for you to have your own accounts with amounts % to your earnings going into a joint account for bills. Then your DH can save for his DC from what he has left.

pinkyredrose · 04/09/2024 11:40

aibu to think we should open something for them too or is it just life.

That's just life. If your husband wants his children to have an Isa then him and his ex should arrange one.

JustMarriedBecca · 04/09/2024 11:39

LittleOwl153 · 04/09/2024 11:04

You say your kids m9ney comes from the 'joint account' but he can't afford to put money aside for his kids? Does this realistically mean that you largely fund the joint account?

If the joint account is 50/50 then I would split the kids savings between all 4 - and you can add to yours (2) separately.
If the joint account is mainly funded by you then I'd probably for the sake of appearances shift the savings to your own account and the savings come purely from you When the kids get them.

The reality is that blended family's do result in children getting treated different as they have non-shared parent/families. (If you could reasonably afford and want to put something aside for his kids there is of course nothing stopping you.)

You can't just shift money to a parent account. The reason people have children's accounts is because of tax savings limits and tax benefits. Just tell the older kids that the savings came from you, their mother. If they even ask or notice at all.

There are other ways to be supportive of step children than financially. Not everything can be equal. I say this as the wife of a step child.

LittleOwl153 · 04/09/2024 11:35

LittleOwl153 · 04/09/2024 11:31

It sounds to me like tou think you should do something but DH is less enthusiastic?

Here is what I would do...

Assuming your dc1 is 2 so 24 monthly payments made =£2400.
I'm assuming your £30k comes from a £100 a month payment.
Nominally this is £50 from you and £50 from DH. This give your current child £1200 from each of you.

I would get DH to set up ISAs for his other two and IF you can afford it deposit £1200 each. This brings them up to speed with your existing child. I'm assuming you'd need to help fund this. If it's not possible then start afresh now.

You/DH appear to be able to afford to up the payments to £200 to include the new dc, but DH cannot add another £200 for his dc? So I would have DH put £25 each into the 4 ISAs, you do your £50 into each of your 2 (making it up to £75 as originally planned if you wish/can afford it.) It means you are funding your DC more than DH, but it means DHs Available funds are split faily between his DC.

However if you DH does not want to do this... that is also his choice... family relationships can be difficult. Maybe the ISA isn't the right account given the ownership at 18, maybe another account is better?

Given the update about DH earning less to support your career I definately think something along this line is important.

Rewis · 04/09/2024 11:32

If your husband has to reduce his hours and income so facilitate your higher income then you could set up an account for his children and contribute from the joint account. In genrls I don't think this is a step-parents responsibility but there are caveats.

LittleOwl153 · 04/09/2024 11:31

It sounds to me like tou think you should do something but DH is less enthusiastic?

Here is what I would do...

Assuming your dc1 is 2 so 24 monthly payments made =£2400.
I'm assuming your £30k comes from a £100 a month payment.
Nominally this is £50 from you and £50 from DH. This give your current child £1200 from each of you.

I would get DH to set up ISAs for his other two and IF you can afford it deposit £1200 each. This brings them up to speed with your existing child. I'm assuming you'd need to help fund this. If it's not possible then start afresh now.

You/DH appear to be able to afford to up the payments to £200 to include the new dc, but DH cannot add another £200 for his dc? So I would have DH put £25 each into the 4 ISAs, you do your £50 into each of your 2 (making it up to £75 as originally planned if you wish/can afford it.) It means you are funding your DC more than DH, but it means DHs Available funds are split faily between his DC.

However if you DH does not want to do this... that is also his choice... family relationships can be difficult. Maybe the ISA isn't the right account given the ownership at 18, maybe another account is better?

GRex · 04/09/2024 11:25

Bedheadready · 04/09/2024 11:18

Yeah that’s fairly accurate plus he’s going to be reducing his hours now again when I’m promoted

Why is he reducing hours for your promotion? It does look like you want everything to be "yours" so that he doesn't have to pay out as much for his older children. It really isn't their fault that he's gone off with another woman, and a decent person would make small steps to ensure they don't suffer because of it. I hope you encourage him to keep maintenance money the same and based on this update, I think all kids should get the same amount from your joint account.

EmmyPankhurst · 04/09/2024 11:25

If he is reducing his work commitments to support your career then I think as a couple you should make some stab at saving for his children.

I don't necessarily think you should aim to save the same amount for them as your joint children at 18 but some provision should be made for them.

If this situation was reversed "i'm reducing my work commitments to support my high earning second DHbut he will only contribute to our joint children's savings accounts. I can't afford to save now for the children from my previous relationship what should I do". I think the answer would be he needs to contribute, don't drop hours and make him cover the additional child care costs or LTB.

Dramatic · 04/09/2024 11:25

If he's contributing to your children's savings at all then his contribution should be split 4 ways equally between all children, even if that means they get a fiver or a tenner each.

Maria1979 · 04/09/2024 11:19

Not everyone can afford to put money away for the children which seems to be your DH's case. If you are the one saving for your child then I can't see any reason for DH's children to think it's unfair. If he is paying he should divide that sum between all his children, it's just the decent thing to do.

Bedheadready · 04/09/2024 11:19

caringcarer · 04/09/2024 11:18

Does your DH actually contribute to your DC savings OP, or is this money you choose to save for your DC from your salary? If DH doesn't save for any of his DC then there is your answer. You are wisely choosing to save for your DC. It doesn't mean you should have to save for your DH DC with his ex. That would be up to his ex to do.

It’s more just everything goes into a joint account and everything goes out of there so there’s no definitive split as such

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Bedheadready · 04/09/2024 11:18

caringcarer · 04/09/2024 11:15

It sounds to me like DH doesn't earn as much as OP and she puts money away for her DC from her salary. DH may spend all his money on day to day living and child maintenance to his ex for their DC. He may not earn much so nothing left to save from his salary for any DC.

Yeah that’s fairly accurate plus he’s going to be reducing his hours now again when I’m promoted

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caringcarer · 04/09/2024 11:18

Does your DH actually contribute to your DC savings OP, or is this money you choose to save for your DC from your salary? If DH doesn't save for any of his DC then there is your answer. You are wisely choosing to save for your DC. It doesn't mean you should have to save for your DH DC with his ex. That would be up to his ex to do.

caringcarer · 04/09/2024 11:15

DeedlessIndeed · 04/09/2024 10:54

Surely he would just have to adjust the amount currently saved to split it equally across all children?

He decided to have more children, surely he realised that money to spend or save would therefore reduce for each one.

It sounds to me like DH doesn't earn as much as OP and she puts money away for her DC from her salary. DH may spend all his money on day to day living and child maintenance to his ex for their DC. He may not earn much so nothing left to save from his salary for any DC.

MoosakaWithFries · 04/09/2024 11:12

His contributions for your shared DC should be split equally by the amount of DC that he has.

Yes, your DC will get more in the end but it's not for you to contribute towards his DC.

Your shared DC will get less but this is just another blended family thing that you have to negotiate.

DitchTheDodo · 04/09/2024 11:11

Surely whatever he CAN afford to save for his children, whether that's £100pw or £10, should be split between all 4.

isthesolution · 04/09/2024 11:08

He should be putting aside for all his children. Whatever is his contribution to the savings should be the same for all of his children.

Timeforaglassofwine · 04/09/2024 11:06

Anything is better than nothing. If he could make a sacrifice to save even £10 a week for each child, at least then they will have £5k or so each in 10 years. He can't compare it to your joint child as you have a difference in income.

GRex · 04/09/2024 11:04

Bedheadready · 04/09/2024 11:00

He never thought about saving until I set up the junior isa for our first baby. He couldn’t afford to pay the same amount for them all

It is just about him splitting. So for example he gives £25 to each child and you pay more for your two. He does not need to communicate with the ex about it, he can just save on his own.