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Refugees "visiting home"

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Notanotherkendoll · 04/09/2024 09:03

I'm not sure how I feel after this conversation with a friend so would like to hear other opinions.
My friend took in a Ukrainian refugee back in 2022, she was a 18/19 year old teenager. She didn't stay for long before getting employment/started studying and was able to move out but they have remained in touch and my friend sort of views herself as the girls "uk mum".
Anyway friend is once again beside herself as she has gone back to Kyiv for a few days. This isn't the city she is from but sadly the city she was from was under siege for sometime and is now mostly destroyed. She is going to visit her family who all moved to Kyiv, as the only girl her family pushed her to flee when the war started but her mum stayed put.

This has me thinking, surely if it is safe enough for her to return home to visit, it's safe enough for her to move back? I thought the whole point of being a refugee was that your own country wasn't safe, if you are going back to visit how can that be the case?

AIBU to think it's incompatible with the very nature of being a refugee to be able to visit home?

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Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 04/09/2024 09:17

I have an acquaintance who works in a hostel/ centre for refugees. He tells me that it is quite usual for people who are claiming asylum from war or persecution to return to their countries of origin for a ‘holiday’. (His clients are mainly for Africa or the Middle East).

He thinks it’s ‘lovely’ . Apparently the danger must stop for a couple of weeks, perhaps they have a holiday amnesty ? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Catza · 04/09/2024 09:17

Sasannach · 04/09/2024 09:12

What does your lodger say about their experiences of returning home to visit?

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He says it's wonderful and he has a great time camping with his mates. He is planning to buy a car for 5k in the UK and sell it for 25k at home.
Unless you are on the front line, life goes on as normal. That's what I gather.

Sadmamatoday · 04/09/2024 09:14

I guess she is willing to risk her safety to see her family, most people would. What's the alternative, never see them again (as many people in other countries have to do)

TheYearOfSmallThings · 04/09/2024 09:13

Some places aren't liveable, but you would risk visiting them to see family who can't come to you. There is a child in my son's class who came from Afghanistan with his mother as refugees - they fly back to visit, but it doesn't mean Afghanistan is an okay place to live.

Octavia64 · 04/09/2024 09:13

So the town where she lives has been completely destroyed.

Her whole family (including her) are therefore refugees as they are fleeing war and their home is literally destroyed.

Her family are internal refugees in the country she lives in.

They almost certainly sent her out of the country as they were worried about her being raped/sexually assaulted by Russian troops in the event of their town being destroyed.

Russian troops have a reputation for torture and sexual assault and rape of Ukrainians.

She has now returned for a brief visit to Kyiv which is regularly under attack by Russian missiles.

Of course her country isn't safe. The fact that she misses her family so much that she chooses to go back into danger doesn't change that.

During the blitz when London was being bombed many London families brought back their children who had been evacuated. They would rather die together than live apart.

Sasannach · 04/09/2024 09:12

Catza · 04/09/2024 09:09

We are in the same situation. We have a "refugee" living with us for the last 3 years as a private lodger. He goes home twice a year for extended periods of time, his adult child comes to visit occasionally. I don't get it either but here we are.

What does your lodger say about their experiences of returning home to visit?

amigafan2003 · 04/09/2024 09:11

"surely if it is safe enough for her to return home to visit, it's safe enough for her to move back?"

How heartless can you be?

There is a difference between being safe enough for a visit and safe enough to live in permanently.

carrotcard · 04/09/2024 09:10

Howdull · 04/09/2024 09:07

It isn't safe for her to return home to Ukraine as there is a war on.

She's obviously chosen to do so because she misses her family. Give her a break for goodness sake.

This.

MumonabikeE5 · 04/09/2024 09:10

there is so much more happening in the world. This is what you choose to get annoyed about.

Sasannach · 04/09/2024 09:09

I agree with @Howdull . So many families have been torn apart. Think how desperate someone has to be to flee their home in the first place, and how desolate and desperate they must feel to take the risk of returning there in order to see their loved ones.

Catza · 04/09/2024 09:09

We are in the same situation. We have a "refugee" living with us for the last 3 years as a private lodger. He goes home twice a year for extended periods of time, his adult child comes to visit occasionally. I don't get it either but here we are.

Howdull · 04/09/2024 09:07

It isn't safe for her to return home to Ukraine as there is a war on.

She's obviously chosen to do so because she misses her family. Give her a break for goodness sake.