Abolishing single person CT discount

But are the people living in their multi-million house actually using much more of the local authority's services than people in the cheaper house? Possibly they are costing the LA less because they might send their kids to private school, or if they need social care they will probably have to fund it themselves.
Maybe a poll tax with an income element is the answer?

While I think it's good to make sure people discuss things in exactly the way one would prefer according to one's views, it was widely reported. I attach a screenshot of the Telegraph although recently even the Telegraph have been a bit sensationalist recently.

That works too!

Ive reported the thread and hope MN will edit it. We’re supposed to be here to support each other as parents, not to wind up and scare each other in order to shit stir politically. Too much of this happening is the world right now and it’s really stressful for people.

Yes you could either add "Debunked" or better still "Daily Mail lying again about CT Discount"

Further employment to the civil service?? Haven't they got enough to do at the moment?

Council tax should be made up of different parts imo.

The first could be linked to income (they have the figures for this anyway through HMRC).

The second based on the area of land your house is located on (again easily calculated from the Ordnance Survey, Land Registry and geospatial mapping (UPRN). Linked to this there should be compulsory registration of currently unregistered land. Imagine all the rich landowners that sit on thousands of hectares.

Thirdly, there needs to be revaluation of property (a terraced house is not the same value everywhere). I think it was the early 90s the last time this was done on a large scale.

This would bring further employment to the Civil Service and in turn more tax revenue for the government.

Oh I see. Gotcha. Well I think in this case that we are discussing on this thread, I'm going to use it according to the arguments I've already made above.

My son ( 26 and working above minimum wage) could pay the ' poll tax' if that was ever brought in as long as it was fair and not as much as council tax is. It would be a contribution towards local facilities if nothing else. He lives with us and pays keep ( which pays our own council tax !)
I can see why it was scrapped and brought down a government, but maybe the principle of it isn't that bad ( for some anyway )
People would get away with not paying it though so it's not fool proof , but it's controversial too.

You just need to add ‘debunked’ to the title or something like that please

Irresponsible Daily Mail scaremongering. Not a true story. OP, please could you ask @MNHQ to amend your thread title because this will scare the fuck out of many impoverished single people on here. Please. Multiple posters on these threads who are not realising this is a scare story which lends it legitimacy. Thank you

I think it's fair that a couple should pay twice what a single person pays

Issue with poll tax was that, within a local authority, the rate was the same for each person. So, Jack and Jill in their multimillion house paid the same rate as Tom and Jane in their tiny flat

@Scandiviews1 I know some people use it and I know what those people's agenda is. What I'm seeking to understand is why it's used. Can you explain something g 2 tier you have observed please?

It would certainly need a rebrand of name 😂

Councils are also asking the government to scrap the 5% cap on annual increases.- I think this is going to be the change.

My father always thought it was fair as well.

I think it had its problems (an understatement). But I can see why it was originally introduced.

Maybe the best idea would be to increase central taxation and councils get a grant from government, everyone gets the same and there's no postcode lottery as now. it's not right that some people get better local services than others. So effectively the direct opposite of what the Coalition and Tory governments were trying to achieve.

But clearly someone living on their own should pay less than a couple, or a family.

Thanks I didn't see that one.

Every one pays for the electricity and gas they use. But I do get a discount on my water bill, which is right - I use far less than the family of four next door. Cant have a water meter which would mean paying even less, so it is right that my lower usage is reflected in my fees. Just like I produce less rubbish and use fewer local public services. So I pay less which is right. But hey, carry on with ridiculous comments.

I really hope it's just pot stirring. It would affect me hugely!

I have drafted an email to my Labour MP (whom I very much supported during the election).

In addition, abolishing the 25% rebate will affect more women than men as lower earners, single parents and retired single women.

Private sector pensions aren't underwritten by the taxpayer unfortunately.

Anyway I'm not denigrating public sector workers. I'm denigrating the approach Labour are taking by taking from the most vulnerable in society (pensioners who cannot work to raise more money) and giving to very well paid public sector workers such as train drivers. Who also have a fantastic pension scheme. Reverse Robin Hood. Or a two tier approach.

I think the discount should increase. At the moment 2 working adults in a household pay 50% each. A single working adult pays 75%

SPD applies to a single parent of children (i.e. people under 18). It doesn't apply once those children become adults.

This is such bullshit. Pensions in the NHS have been consistently eroded over the years. People in full time employment doing essential jobs - like nurses - are having to use food banks. For over a decade, people have fallen far behind private sector pay, with raises of 1% being common. I am sick of right wingers piling on public sector workers - they are not the problem - they keep the country going. That they are some kind of drain is Tory rhetoric at its most toxic.

Well I didn't come up with it myself! So Google in this case is your friend. The fact that you know who I mean by 2Tier means you already know though.

So you think electricity, gas etc shouldn't be based on what you use? Maybe get the supermarkets to do single person prices while you are at it.

Yes, I could never understand why it was so hated.