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Not giving my kids money while at uni

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Seilla · 03/09/2024 16:51

I have twins who are both going to uni this year, DD is going to Kings in London and DS to Newcastle.
I work as an administrator for the local council making about £24k, their dad isn't involved at all.He sees them maybe 2 times a year and moved away.
They are both get full student loans. DD this is £13,348, DS £10,227. DDs Accomodation is £169 per week and DS is £129 per week (DDs uni has an affordable Accomodation scheme she qualified for).

The maths tells me that DD will have £732 a month after rent (dividing the remaining loan by 9 months) and DS £563.
My parents just bought them both a MacBook for there 18th last week, I've got them new phone contracts which I will pay. They both just got over £1000 from there child trust funds and my parents have given them £500 each to get clothes and pots/pans.
They have both worked all through sixth form and have savings, DDs is at a little restaurant who have said they will have her back in the holidays. DS was at a shop so that is less likely.

AIBU to give them nothing more?
My parents think I should give them pocket money and I hear all there friends parents talking of contributions but I think they have loads with just that and getting jobs of their own?

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Didimum · 03/09/2024 17:30

When I went to uni in London my parents paid my tuition and rent and I had £400 a month from my student loan for everything else. No, they don’t need anymore money.

Seilla · 03/09/2024 17:28

AuntyMabelandPippin · 03/09/2024 17:23

DD is going to be really far away and the trains are expensive

If you're near an airport, flying would be easier, the Metro goes straight to the airport in Newcastle.

I think if you've not got it, you can't give them it. Simple as that. I hope they enjoy themselves at University, if your DD wanted a part time job tell her to try the pubs near the university accommodation, they'll happily take someone that doesn't want to work during the holidays as they're a lot quieter then.

DD is London, we live in North Cumbria, for DS it's 2 trains, but not super expensive. DD is London and it's the Avanti mainline she will need which I think can be quite expensive.

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MattSmithsBowTie · 03/09/2024 17:28

When I was at uni, about 20 years ago, I worked in a pub a couple of nights a week and got office temp work in the holidays. I’m sure there must be plenty of students whose parents can’t afford to subsidise them.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 03/09/2024 17:26

I wouldn't give them anything. What I might do, if I had anything spare, is to keep it by for 'just in case'. They have enough. Kids that know they have more to come or can just ask are not so careful with their money (why would they be?).

That way, if needs must, you have some put by. If it's never needed well that's something nice for you or for all of you at Christmas/graduation or whenever.

You've done a blinding job! Star

Ariela · 03/09/2024 17:24

Do check with local parish councils / charities to see if there are any local educational grants available. There are a couple in our area. They're not for much but can be useful for equipment, books, that kind of thing. I think your twins would be good candidates as the expense of 2 at Uni same time can't be easy.

AuntyMabelandPippin · 03/09/2024 17:23

DD is going to be really far away and the trains are expensive

If you're near an airport, flying would be easier, the Metro goes straight to the airport in Newcastle.

I think if you've not got it, you can't give them it. Simple as that. I hope they enjoy themselves at University, if your DD wanted a part time job tell her to try the pubs near the university accommodation, they'll happily take someone that doesn't want to work during the holidays as they're a lot quieter then.

Blueberry40 · 03/09/2024 17:22

YANBU- they both have the full maintenance loan and can get part time work to supplement this. If they had less than the full loan there would be an expectation for you to top it up but you shouldn’t need to as they are both getting good amounts.

If you can save anything, just try and give them a bit of help when you can but I don’t think you should feel it necessary to give them a monthly amount when you’re on such a low income- that’s why they have qualified for the full maintenance loan. A lot of students who get help from parents only qualify for around half the maintenance loan and this is why they need extra help.

Ted27 · 03/09/2024 17:22

@Seilla

First thing is for DD is to get a young person's railcard
Make sure they open a student bank account - most banks have cash or voucher incentives.
My son gets full loan and works 12 hours a week in a supermarket. He also gets PIP so with that he is quite comfortable.
I don't give him any money but send him off each term with a pack of sausages, burgers and pork steaks from the butchers. I also do him some home made freezer meals like chilli. So he has some decent meals for the first few weeks.

It doesn't matter what other people do. It sounds like they are both set up quite well and that you can't afford to be handing out money.

Fanlover1122 · 03/09/2024 17:21

Seilla · 03/09/2024 17:09

That's the issue not really, I won't get UC for them or child benefit anymore so I'm about to see my income drop down to just what I earn. Which while for just me is doable (I can walk to work so no car needed etc.) but after rent I have less than £1000 a month now for all bills including the kids phones and shopping + any clothes etc. and that is working 37 hours a week.

DD is going to be really far away and the trains are expensive so that might be an issue if she wants to come home. DS will be closer so not as bad.

Kings has a hardship fund. Your DD should definitely apply for it. That is not a lot of money in London - but she can, get a part time job? Even 6 hours a week or something.

xSilverandcoldx · 03/09/2024 17:21

My parents never gave me money when I was at uni, Im a nurse so I got a bursary and worked on and off throughout for spending money. My parents would usually get me a food shop if they came to visit which was nice.

I quite liked being independent and the students who had loads of help from family and never worked always made me eye roll. Many of them really struggled to manage money even after graduating as they were used to having someone else do it for them.

Delphinium20 · 03/09/2024 17:20

My parents had a lot more disposable income than you do but I didn't get any money from them outside tuition. Back then it wasn't expected. However, my mom would make sure I got her used or extra items like pots, plates, blankets, plantings, etc. I respect my parents so much and, now in middle age, I look back and see how they instilled a strong work ethic in me. Outside short maternity leaves, I have had a job or been self-employed since I was 12 (babysitting). I also have a graduate degree, so working and doing well in university courses is more than doable. Your kids are frankly better off than those who are getting their parents to cover everything, including designers for dorm rooms. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/30/realestate/college-dorm-room-interior-designer.html?unlockedarticlee_code=1.H04.qX2j.w561BdZ2-J9K&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Wotsitsarecheesy · 03/09/2024 17:20

We top our DC contributions up to the maximum maintenance loan, which is what yours are getting. On top of that, I have kept them both on the family mobile contract. Otherwise it's just the odd thing here and there - a train fare if they want to come home, a supermarket shop at the start of term. Your DC should be fine as they are already getting the amount that assumes there is no parental contribution.

thursdaymurderclub · 03/09/2024 17:19

i didn't finance my two at uni.. i was a single mum on a low wage and benefits.. they actually probably had more spare cash than i did.

i did do big shops for them when i visited, and i cooked and took food with me for freezing etc.

if they needed extra money then they can get a job and earn it!

JaninaDuszejko · 03/09/2024 17:17

Most of your friends will be over the threshold for having to pay a parental contribution whereas you aren't so they have to support them to get them up to the level of a full loan because they'll get less from SLC. Sounds like with their full loans and their grandparents gifts your twins will be fine. Don't worry, you've done a fab job getting them to Uni on your own.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 03/09/2024 17:16

They should be fine off that and can do babysitting or work part time or in the holidays.

Well done you on bringing up twins on your own on a low income and getting them into such great inks you should be so proud of yourself and them 😊

Borninabarn32 · 03/09/2024 17:14

If they get the full loan amount then that's on the assumption they don't get anything from parents I understand.

I'm in my 20s, I got the full loan amount and neither of my parents gave me a penny nor paid for my food or travel or any equipment I needed. Although maybe I wouldn't have needed to rely on my abusive much older ex had I not been so unsupported.

At the end of the day, you can't give them money you haven't got, they don't have much less than you,

Quitelikeacatslife · 03/09/2024 17:14

My DD is just about to go, we are financially not in a great place so no spare cash, she's got full loan and will have £60 week after rent . She works too so has saved up and will keep working. She is set up with all the stuff she needs. As I see it she will not starve will have clothes and what she needs for her course. and if she wants to do major socialising she will need to keep working. She has v good savings from when we were better off and sensibly is saving them for after (hopefully) I am not going to give her regular money but will do a big shop now and again or treat her when she comes home, maybe send the odd voucher as a surprise. I see that it is her choice and for her benefit to go.

ButterCrackers · 03/09/2024 17:10

They can both get jobs. It will help in the future for references as well.

Seilla · 03/09/2024 17:09

DrPeculiar · 03/09/2024 16:55

Can you afford to pay them anything? I guess that’s the first question to ask.

That's the issue not really, I won't get UC for them or child benefit anymore so I'm about to see my income drop down to just what I earn. Which while for just me is doable (I can walk to work so no car needed etc.) but after rent I have less than £1000 a month now for all bills including the kids phones and shopping + any clothes etc. and that is working 37 hours a week.

DD is going to be really far away and the trains are expensive so that might be an issue if she wants to come home. DS will be closer so not as bad.

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KittyBeebee · 03/09/2024 17:09

It sounds like they will be fine and they can always look for a part time job if they need extra money. They'll let you know if they're desperate, I'm sure!

Doltontweedle · 03/09/2024 17:06

I’d probably send ‘care packages’ or a shop maybe once a month or 2 of cheap, bare basics like noodles, toothpaste, paracetamol etc. And I’d make sure there was a small emergency fund put aside just in case. But it looks like they’rw actually better off than you at this point op

Beezknees · 03/09/2024 17:05

YANBU at all, I'll be in a similar situation.

Hello87abc · 03/09/2024 17:04

they'll probably have more disposable income than you a month. If they could get themselves a little 10/20 hour a week job they’ll be fine, I never got any help

Howmyhairlookman · 03/09/2024 17:04

Surely they'll be getting part time jobs? I worked in the campus shop/a cinema/a chippy evenings and weekends while at uni.

My parents visited and took me on a supermarket shop for a stock up each term but that's it.

Lannielou · 03/09/2024 17:03

My daughter did her children's nursing degree. She had full student finance and NHS bursary. I couldn't give her any money. She worked all through uni

It teaches them how to budget. Your kids will be fine

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