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Tiredofbeingsad · 03/09/2024 03:35

My boyfriend shuts me out when he is with his family (separated, kids). I do understand but it’s been nearly 10 days and I just needed to hear his voice / he called me on the way home from his football match \ I got upset and hung up but he wouldn’t answer my call when I tried to call him back. Now it’s festering and it’s 3am.
wouldn’t it be so much easier just to speak?

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Bumblebeestiltskin · 03/09/2024 08:57

Tiredofbeingsad · 03/09/2024 07:18

If you don’t have kids it’s better to date someone else who doesn’t?

wow. Because childless people have to stick together?!

Actually, I'll only date people with kids themselves (I've learned the hard way!). However, I wouldn't be at all comfortable in the situation you describe, with him spending time with his older kids and ex to the point he can't even phone you? And have you talked at all about you meeting them?

DramaLlamaBangBang · 03/09/2024 08:51

It sounds like he is still with his wife. Are you sure he is ' separated'? Long periods of time not speaking during the holidays, 5 minute phone calls, him living with a teenager you've never met? Sounds like either you are a mistress or a fling he had during a trial separation, and he's had enough, because to you you are in a relationship and to him you are a casual fling who is demanding too much attention . A man who is separated with adult children doesn't need to be involved with his ex above finance/school chat, and doesn't need to spend 24 hours a day throughout the holidays with a 17 year old and 2 adult children.

Portfun24 · 03/09/2024 08:25

Do you really want to be with someone who treats you like this, never spends time with you or even contacts you on holidays. Is happy to go so long without speaking to you and it makes you feel upset. This isn't a very healthy relationship.

Dweetfidilove · 03/09/2024 08:22

Anything this out of place should be replaced. Get a different man 🤷🏾‍♀️.

Tiredofbeingsad · 03/09/2024 08:19

Catza · 03/09/2024 08:12

I am guessing a “tricky situation” might be that the OP is roughly the same age as his kids. She certainly does not sound like an adult from the whole getting upset and hanging up situation.

Nope - we are both about the same age. I know that you are going to say thats even more childish and I agree - but it just was the heat of the moment. I have never hung up on anyone before.

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Comedycook · 03/09/2024 08:16

Sounds like he's basically checked out of the relationship. You sound like you're clinging onto it

Catza · 03/09/2024 08:12

DramaLlamaBangBang · 03/09/2024 05:43

Oh, so they're older teenagers/adults? And his ex is there for some of the time? Why? He lives with one. Why can't the ex see the child on her own? And you haven't even met the one he lives with? How do you know they know about you? It sounds as if you are a casual/ other woman situation. What 17 year old needs their dad hanging around all the time to the point he can't leave them to make a phone call? It sounds as if he's using his almost adult children as an excuse not to see/speak to you. Instead of hectoring him to do it, you need to ask yourself why you have to.

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I am guessing a “tricky situation” might be that the OP is roughly the same age as his kids. She certainly does not sound like an adult from the whole getting upset and hanging up situation.

PamperGoals2024 · 03/09/2024 08:07

Hanging up on someone isn't normal. I've only done it once in a major disagreement. But it happens.

It is easier to date someone with children if you don't, that is true. Their energy is taken up with the kids when they are with them. Fully adult kids is slightly different. Also men can be intensely private about their love lives, I guess out of fear of it not working out.

It switches though with adult kids. I can barely speak to my dad now because he's with the dog or his partner is making lunch or dinner.

Telling you that he can't deal with this stuff though is harsh, how do you come back from a comment like that?

StTola · 03/09/2024 07:51

Tiredofbeingsad · 03/09/2024 07:42

Histrionics? I have hung up on him once - I’m not sure that makes me unhinged!

I’ve never suggested it makes you in any way ‘unhinged’, but hanging up on someone you’ve been begging to call you because they say they can’t talk for as long as you like, and later messaging to apologise, isn’t the behaviour of two people in a healthy, egalitarian relationship with a firm future. He’s certainly not happy with it, given his reply. Therefore, I imagine he’s not letting you meet his children because he’s not sure the relationship has legs. And tbh, it doesn’t look to me as if it does. You’re not happy, he’s not happy.

Tiredofbeingsad · 03/09/2024 07:42

StTola · 03/09/2024 07:36

Yes, but his, but also, the histrionics are possibly why he hasn’t introduced her to his children. It may be that he’s not sure this relationship will last.

Histrionics? I have hung up on him once - I’m not sure that makes me unhinged!

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WhatNoRaisins · 03/09/2024 07:40

Because dating someone with kids inevitably means taking on their baggage. It doesn't sound like this relationship makes you happy.

StTola · 03/09/2024 07:36

MoreCardassianThanKardashian · 03/09/2024 07:15

There are two aspects here.

Firstly, you're acting like a child. You don't get to put the phone down on him, message saying sorry and expect another call. I would also have had enough of "this stuff".

Secondly, I completely get you missing him and wanting to talk to him. He is doing the right thing in many ways by keeping you separate from the kids until he is sure but he's absolutely not doing it in a good way. He's compartmentalising and making you feel shit in the process. You are not a priority and as he has kids, you never will be. Honestly, I'd cut your losses and run. If you don't have kids then it's better to date someone else who doesn't.

Yes, but his, but also, the histrionics are possibly why he hasn’t introduced her to his children. It may be that he’s not sure this relationship will last.

EveningSpread · 03/09/2024 07:32

The relationship isn’t making you feel secure or loved - understandably, but you’re acting badly as a result. You sound very unhappy and you’re getting cast in the role of needy person/annoyance - in my experience it’s almost impossible to change that dynamic once it’s set.

You won’t change his behaviour: he’s showing you who he is and what you can expect. You can only control your behaviour. Hard as it is I would leave the relationship, bypassing the likely months of arguing and feeling shit that would happen if you stayed, before the inevitable happened anyway.

People saying don’t date people with kids if you don’t have any are just pointing out that you’ll never be the priority, so if you’re not in the same boat it can be really tough - as you’re finding.

Tiredofthewhirring · 03/09/2024 07:21

This relationship doesn't make you happy OP. He doesn't prioritize you.

He's maybe still hung up on or even still with the ex?

Honestly go find an available man who will do more than one phone call in 10days

Ignore the cool kids crew on here saying one text message a month is sufficient. You're entitled to proper contact in a relationship.

You sound young, go find someone with less baggage!

MoreCardassianThanKardashian · 03/09/2024 07:20

Oh for god sake! No, because as explained in my post, you'll never be a priority and you clearly want to be which is a reasonable desire.

Tiredofbeingsad · 03/09/2024 07:18

MoreCardassianThanKardashian · 03/09/2024 07:15

There are two aspects here.

Firstly, you're acting like a child. You don't get to put the phone down on him, message saying sorry and expect another call. I would also have had enough of "this stuff".

Secondly, I completely get you missing him and wanting to talk to him. He is doing the right thing in many ways by keeping you separate from the kids until he is sure but he's absolutely not doing it in a good way. He's compartmentalising and making you feel shit in the process. You are not a priority and as he has kids, you never will be. Honestly, I'd cut your losses and run. If you don't have kids then it's better to date someone else who doesn't.

If you don’t have kids it’s better to date someone else who doesn’t?

wow. Because childless people have to stick together?!

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MoreCardassianThanKardashian · 03/09/2024 07:15

There are two aspects here.

Firstly, you're acting like a child. You don't get to put the phone down on him, message saying sorry and expect another call. I would also have had enough of "this stuff".

Secondly, I completely get you missing him and wanting to talk to him. He is doing the right thing in many ways by keeping you separate from the kids until he is sure but he's absolutely not doing it in a good way. He's compartmentalising and making you feel shit in the process. You are not a priority and as he has kids, you never will be. Honestly, I'd cut your losses and run. If you don't have kids then it's better to date someone else who doesn't.

rubyrubyrubyrubymurray · 03/09/2024 07:14

Get some self respect and end this shit show. Find someone who prioritises you and is proud of you.

WhatNoRaisins · 03/09/2024 07:11

Does he feel guilty about not being with his kids other parent? I'm wondering if he's even emotionally ready for another relationship if he behaves like this.

OP I'd have a good think about what you want longer term from this.

Septemberalready · 03/09/2024 07:06

I'm sorry OP but it does sound as though you don't count as anyone important in his life.
To say he can't text or call you when he is with his children- given at least 2 are adult and the other must be almost adult - must be an excuse. He obviously doesn't want a proper relationship with you for his own reasons. You are just on the periphery of his life . And the fact he appears to still have his ex playing an important role in his life is very telling as to your standing.
This relationship is only bringing you unhappiness OP. You would be much better ending it.

Tiredofbeingsad · 03/09/2024 06:56

I messaged him straight away to say sorry - he responded 2 hours later saying he needs a night off from “this stuff”. Assume that this stuff is my life 😢

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Tohaveandtohold · 03/09/2024 06:29

You’ve only been together for a year and he’s been showing you where you are on the list of his priorities just a few months in at Christmas, why are you still with him?

daisychain01 · 03/09/2024 06:21

Why be with someone who throws you the crumbs from their table. He doesn't need to go AWOL for 10 days just because he's spending time with his kids. He can balance both if he chose, by giving you a call and keeping in contact but he's cutting you out for chunks of time including holidays like Christmas and Easter.

So clearly he doesn't see you as a partner, just someone he can pick up or drop, at will.

Makes me wonder if there isn't some back story going on there ...

Tiredofbeingsad · 03/09/2024 06:08

All holidays are a bit grim to be honest - Easter was similar.

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Tiredofbeingsad · 03/09/2024 06:05

Judging by last year no he won’t contact me at christmas! Although it hadn’t been that long last year.

they are a close family I guess. I’m not going to say that it doesn’t upset me - it does. The ex is the source of all of our minor arguments.

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