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To hunt down these bastards who exposed my son to chicken pox

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littleredbumblebee · 02/09/2024 22:48

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went on a caravan holiday last week for 5 nights and my son who is 11 played with some kids from other families and had a great time- all good

On the last night one of the smaller boys was running around with no shirt on and he has spots, one of the other families asked and his mum said oh he has chicken pox but we though getting away would do him good.

I told her my son had never had chicken pox and said I bloody hoped my son was not going to come down with them. One of the other parents also said they should not have brought the kid. Basically it ended up with them going inside the caravan in a huff. The next day we all left

So today the day before my son is use to start at high school he woke up covered in spots and now has chicken pox and won’t be in for his first week at high school. Tonight he is now crying saying he won’t name any friends now and he won’t know his way around and no amount of comforting will calm him down. Very few kids for his school are going to this high school and he is so upset he will have missed out on making friends.

We have been in touch with his form tutor who has been great and has said they will support him and catch him up but I could bloody scream. How can some people be so bloody selfish.

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BitOutOfPractice · 03/09/2024 15:47

Why is it a ticking time bomb @WhiteLily1 ? Not everyone gets it. I’ve never had CP and neither Have my 2 DDs.

And what did you want her to do. Never leave the house? Or get him infected on purpose? She tried to get him vaccinated, he had a reaction.

WhiteLily1 · 03/09/2024 15:44

Sucks because of the timing. However you must have known this was a ticking time bomb? Every year he ages and doesn’t get it, will likely be worse when he does?
What were you thinking, that he would just never get it?

diddl · 03/09/2024 14:50

Maybe Op did think he would get it at some point.

Hence why she had him vaccinated!!!!!

PurpleCheese · 03/09/2024 14:42

Weird. How could you possibly think that he wasn't going to get it at some point?

Lucy25 · 03/09/2024 14:29

KarmenPQZ · 03/09/2024 12:16

You’re unreasonable to want to ‘hunt down the bastards’. At the end of the day they didn’t invent chicken pox. They clearly got exposed to it from somewhere else. Should they have ruined a perhaps well needed holiday or lost out financially for not going to that holiday to protect your son for his first week of school? No I don’t feel they should.

it’s unfortunate as these things are when you can’t plan them hence why people are saying the vaccine is the answer. I was planning on paying to vaccinate my kids if they got through nursery without it but it didn’t come to that for us. im super shocked so many people haven’t heard of the vaccine?

Do you always take everything so literally
of course OP isn’t going to hunt anymore down! Your comment is no help whatsoever Many people are repeating the same thing, so why do you feel the need to join in.

Mummyford · 03/09/2024 14:23

Didimum · 03/09/2024 14:02

Why are people bleating on about the vaccine as if that's the point of the post? Whether you can't afford it or just don't get it, it's still out of the ordinary that this family didn't only knowingly take the kid on holiday but also knowingly let him play in close proximity to other children for days. The OP is reasonable to be annoyed by that regardless.

I agree that it's not the point of the thread and that the OP is right to be annoyed, but it's worth correcting incorrect assertions about the vaccine in case it's helpful to someone.

Mummyford · 03/09/2024 14:18

Opinionvoice · 03/09/2024 11:05

We asked our paediatrician about this and she said that the vaccine does not last and people who have it are more likely to get shingles in adult life.

Really feel for you OP. My son would have been gutted to miss the first week of senior school. It was really selfish of the parents.

I'm sorry, but your paediatrician is wrong. I don't know when you asked her, but there's now plenty of research that contradicts that. I don't blame the average parent in the UK for not knowing enough about the CP vaccine, but it's really not ok for a paediatrician to give out inaccurate information.

OP, I hope your son has a mild case and a quick recovery. If it's any consolation, one of my DC had appendicitis the night before starting a new school (in a new country) and missed the first two weeks. They were also very upset at the time but did absolutely fine friendwise.

Didimum · 03/09/2024 14:02

Why are people bleating on about the vaccine as if that's the point of the post? Whether you can't afford it or just don't get it, it's still out of the ordinary that this family didn't only knowingly take the kid on holiday but also knowingly let him play in close proximity to other children for days. The OP is reasonable to be annoyed by that regardless.

LeoOakley · 03/09/2024 13:50

Opinionvoice · 03/09/2024 11:11

Our NHS paediatrician (UK) said the reason they do not vaccinate is because the vaccine does not last and so people who have it do not maintain their immunity and are more likely to get shingles as adults than those who are not vaccinated. She advised us against getting the vaccine on these grounds.

Most people who are vaccinated with 2 doses of varicella vaccine will be protected for life.

www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/vis/vis-statements/varicella.html

Where I live (EU capital) I have never heard of anyone getting CP because its part of the vaccination schedule.

I personally find the idea that it 'isn't serious, best get it over with' a very outdated viewpoint. Why on earth should anyone suffer when there is a vaccine available. The UK really needs to catch up and stop foisting this disruptive menace of a disease on kids and their families.

I am sorry for your son OP, I have a dc entering year 6 and it is a very big deal for them. Wishing him a speedy recovery.

Cailleach1 · 03/09/2024 13:34

Allie47 · 02/09/2024 23:11

Fuck I didn't know there was a chicken pox vaccine available in the UK tbh or I'd have had my kids done 🤦

Never knew it existed either. If the vaccine is an inactive form of Chickenpox virus, I presume it would also guard against possible Shingles later on. I’ve had both, and it was the Shingles which was painful. It goes along your nerves and sets them on fire.

Reminds me, I’d probably better get the Shingles vaccine. A truckload of dosh, you can still get Shingles, but most like much milder and for a shorter duration.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 03/09/2024 13:29

Overpayment · 03/09/2024 07:25

This.

@Overpayment - if you read the OP's updates, her son did have the first dose of the vaccine but had such a bad reaction he had to spend a night in hospital, and the doctors said he could NOT have the second dose.

Lovelysummerdays · 03/09/2024 13:13

Remaker · 03/09/2024 13:08

Yes they were selfish not considering the needs of others. It sounds like the school will take care of him but that’s easier for us as adults to understand than an 11yr old.

I’ve also learned that CP is not on the vaccination schedule in the UK! My kids are 18 and 16 and were routinely vaccinated against CP at age 4 in Australia.

Apparently it’s a budget decision but it’s now been recommended to be added to the traditional rollout. Only 20-30 years after the rest of the western world.

Remaker · 03/09/2024 13:08

Yes they were selfish not considering the needs of others. It sounds like the school will take care of him but that’s easier for us as adults to understand than an 11yr old.

I’ve also learned that CP is not on the vaccination schedule in the UK! My kids are 18 and 16 and were routinely vaccinated against CP at age 4 in Australia.

SeashellCandle · 03/09/2024 13:02

SerafinasGoose · 03/09/2024 11:48

I somehow managed to dodge the many outbreaks going the rounds at school and it finally caught up with me when I was fourteen. It made me really ill.

The vaccine doesn't offer lifelong immunity and I'm unconvinced postponing the onset of this disease is such a good idea.

Same here, and even the same age! I remember asking my parents if I ever had chicken pox and they couldn't even remember so they told me probably yes. But I had no memory of it so when I started coming out in spots I knew exactly what it was. Knocked me out for a solid week. I still have some scars and pitting left but luckily nowhere prominent.

I think it's pretty comparable to covid and we all know how little of a shit people give about exposing others. Pre-vaccine I was one of those who stayed home and was genuinely careful about not exposing anyone. However these days, I assume that the majority of people have already had it at least once or twice, plus extra immunity from multiple vaccines. So I don't feel guilty going out in public with cold symptoms that may or may not be covid. I also assume that when I'm in a public space, someone there could well be infected with covid and I'm ok with that. I also assume that chicken pox could easily be anywhere in a childcare/play setting and if my kids catches it, it's still my responsibility in the end. If she cannot have the vaccine I'd rather it happens earlier rather than later.

NotMeekNotObedient · 03/09/2024 12:51

They shouldn't have taken their child away.

I actually had a friend who did similar and couldn't believe it when she told me 🙈. But money is tight for her and this was their one holiday so I do understand not wanting to cancel.

Feeling really thankful I paid for the vaccine!

Nothing you can do now...he will be fine!

BorisJohnsonsPhysique · 03/09/2024 12:44

KarmenPQZ · 03/09/2024 12:16

You’re unreasonable to want to ‘hunt down the bastards’. At the end of the day they didn’t invent chicken pox. They clearly got exposed to it from somewhere else. Should they have ruined a perhaps well needed holiday or lost out financially for not going to that holiday to protect your son for his first week of school? No I don’t feel they should.

it’s unfortunate as these things are when you can’t plan them hence why people are saying the vaccine is the answer. I was planning on paying to vaccinate my kids if they got through nursery without it but it didn’t come to that for us. im super shocked so many people haven’t heard of the vaccine?

They should have followed the NHS advice on chicken pox, designed to minimise the spread of disease and protect vulnerable people, and stayed at home.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/chickenpox/

Sad though that would be for their holiday, as people have repeatedly told the OP, this stuff happens.

nhs.uk

Chickenpox

Chickenpox is a very contagious infection that causes an itchy, spotty rash. Read NHS information about chickenpox symptoms and when to get medical advice.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/chickenpox

Sartre · 03/09/2024 12:40

Amazed he made it to 11 without catching it tbh, all of my DC caught it at nursery so they were around 3/4 when they had it and it really wasn’t a big deal at that age- just itchy spots and a mild temperature for a few days.

It’s better to catch it whilst young because it can be very grave as an adult. If you were genuinely concerned about it, you could have paid for the vaccine.

MabelMaybe · 03/09/2024 12:39

@Katemax82 it isn't, unless you pay privately for it. We looked at it for our youngest because the oldest had a terrible time with CP, but it was beyond out budget. It's not a cheap option so most parents are unlikely to take it up.

Katemax82 · 03/09/2024 12:37

Everyone having a go at op not vaccinating...my daughter is the same age and has never been offered a chicken pox vaccine? I didn't know it's a thing tbh

loulouljh · 03/09/2024 12:20

It really isn't the end of the world......

KarmenPQZ · 03/09/2024 12:16

You’re unreasonable to want to ‘hunt down the bastards’. At the end of the day they didn’t invent chicken pox. They clearly got exposed to it from somewhere else. Should they have ruined a perhaps well needed holiday or lost out financially for not going to that holiday to protect your son for his first week of school? No I don’t feel they should.

it’s unfortunate as these things are when you can’t plan them hence why people are saying the vaccine is the answer. I was planning on paying to vaccinate my kids if they got through nursery without it but it didn’t come to that for us. im super shocked so many people haven’t heard of the vaccine?

WolfFoxHare · 03/09/2024 12:11

Beezknees · 02/09/2024 23:07

You can pay for it. If you feel that strongly about it which OP clearly does, pay for it.

It's £150 for the recommended 2 doses. That's a LOT of money for a lot of people. I don't usually say "check your privilege" but seriously, have a little think. We're in the middle of a cost of living crisis and many many people are living hand to mouth and worrying about feeding their children or keeping a roof over their head.

HotPotato123 · 03/09/2024 12:11

thats rubbish for you son. But he will be fine, and you’ll all laugh about this one day.
I hope he’s not too poorly with the pox.

incidentally I had my kids vaccinated as an immediate family member was undergoing chemotherapy. Our gp recommended it (and gave the kids it on nhs) to lower the chances of them getting it. 12 years later and they haven’t had it. I was advised when they’re 20 to have their immunity to it tested and then get the vaccine again if needed.

I probs wouldn’t have done the vaccine if it wasn’t for the family members cancer though.

nobody should feel bad for not giving their child a vaccine that costs a lot of money if they can’t afford it.

honkifyalikebeans · 03/09/2024 12:07

Ah I'm so sorry you're both going through this. That's so hard, I would be so upset but he will be ok. He'll be extra special when he starts high school and maybe more likely to make friends. Good luck to him when he returns, he will be fine

Soldieringnonosoldiershere · 03/09/2024 11:58

Most people would assume older kids weren’t vulnerable to it. To be honest they did him a favour as you don’t want to get it as an adult it’s horrid

Did you find out why he had an allergic reaction to the vaccine? This is extremely uncommon and usually only if a child has severe egg allergy. Funny you didn’t think to mention that!!