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littleredbumblebee · 02/09/2024 22:48

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went on a caravan holiday last week for 5 nights and my son who is 11 played with some kids from other families and had a great time- all good

On the last night one of the smaller boys was running around with no shirt on and he has spots, one of the other families asked and his mum said oh he has chicken pox but we though getting away would do him good.

I told her my son had never had chicken pox and said I bloody hoped my son was not going to come down with them. One of the other parents also said they should not have brought the kid. Basically it ended up with them going inside the caravan in a huff. The next day we all left

So today the day before my son is use to start at high school he woke up covered in spots and now has chicken pox and won’t be in for his first week at high school. Tonight he is now crying saying he won’t name any friends now and he won’t know his way around and no amount of comforting will calm him down. Very few kids for his school are going to this high school and he is so upset he will have missed out on making friends.

We have been in touch with his form tutor who has been great and has said they will support him and catch him up but I could bloody scream. How can some people be so bloody selfish.

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BitOutOfPractice · 03/09/2024 21:13

@Annipoos these diseases haven’t “suddenly” become dangerous. I was born in 1967 the year before the measles vaccine was introduced. That year 100 children died of measles.

MrsSunshine2b · 03/09/2024 21:13

Rosscameasdoody · 03/09/2024 17:08

Sorry but this is not correct. The vaccine is available privately but it’s in two parts, and the two vaccines cost around £450 altogether.

https://www.boots.com/online/pharmacy-services/chickenpox-vaccination-service?srsltid=AfmBOopzR0rRn52ZuMNN8czErS4HcPpj3yjgq52C6bqBuHNqGyRGsvZ_

It really isn't hard to Google before incorrectly correcting people.

Boots Pharmacy

https://www.boots.com/online/pharmacy-services/chickenpox-vaccination-service?srsltid=AfmBOopzR0rRn52ZuMNN8czErS4HcPpj3yjgq52C6bqBuHNqGyRGsvZ_

Fontofallknowledge23 · 03/09/2024 21:11

Much better to get it as a kid than an adult. Done your son a favour. Dont be so ridiculous!!! Im
pleased my kids had it before their teens. Nothing like natural immunity.

Makingchocolatecake · 03/09/2024 21:11

Just be glad he'd had chicken pox now instead of as an adult. He will make friends and get over missing a week of school.

BrummiMummi · 03/09/2024 21:03

My son missed his first week at school due to Covid, much the same he didn’t know a single person going and thought everyone would have made friends by the time he got there. I spent the first day on tenterhooks but I needn’t have worried - he was absolutely fine so try not to worry

mimillion · 03/09/2024 21:01

StolenChanel · 02/09/2024 23:12

Am I the only one who didn’t know a chickenpox vaccine even existed…?

Nope, I had no idea either

Pinkstripepurplespot · 03/09/2024 20:59

mathanxiety · 03/09/2024 01:51

Then maybe seek out people who have chicken pox and try to get it when the children are young. We went to a chicken pox party back in the 1990s. By the time youngest DC was born everyone was getting vaccinated and nobody was catching it in the wild. I had to get DC vaccinated.

Adults and teens usually have worse symptoms than children do.

Why would I deliberately try to get my child to catch a disease? I made it to adulthood without getting it and only got the vaccine when TTC so it’s not inevitable that everyone will get it. Might be less serious in childhood, but it’s not zero risk - so that needs to be weighed up against not getting it at all.

Point is, that’s the OP’s decision to make, not some selfish fuckwit’s like the parent who let their pox-ridden child out.

PeachyPeachTrees · 03/09/2024 20:59

I think it's the bad timing that's so upsetting. The first week of high school is a big deal.

Littlemisscatlover · 03/09/2024 20:56

I had chicken pox for the first time at the age of 35.
Trust me he’s better to have it at this age rather than as an adult. The pain was horrendous and I was plastered in blisters, some have scared in places. Inconvenient at this time though I do agree.

bringincrazyback · 03/09/2024 20:49

Balletdreamer · 03/09/2024 20:04

I am really shocked how nasty some people are being because they think £150 for a vaccine is peanuts. You’ve heard of food banks? You know that there are families living in poverty unable to buy food?

Couldn't agree more. Some people on this thread really need to check their privilege.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 03/09/2024 20:47

@KM123456 - @littleredbumblebee‘s son had such a bad reaction to the first chickenpox vaccine that he was hospitalised - she clearly isn’t anti-vax, but was told by the doctors that he mustn’t have the second dose.

KM123456 · 03/09/2024 20:44

Common childhood disease with unpleasant to life threatening consequences. If your kids are not vaccinated they are likely to get it, and infect others. It often sweeps through a school if most kids are not vaccinated. He may take longer to get over it (it can drag you out).
The question now is: what other vaccines is he missing? And who has he infected? Just like you, the other parents chose not to vaccinate, but had enough money to take a caravan trip. Priorities.
No one has a good look here. Play Russian roulette, get shot.as someone else pointed out, he's not missing major exams, and doesn't seem to have major consequences.

Ireallycantthinkofagoodone · 03/09/2024 20:35

Maybe your DS had already been in contact with chickenpox before the holiday? The incubation period for chickenpox is generally longer than a week.

LeoOakley · 03/09/2024 20:32

BorisJohnsonsPhysique · 03/09/2024 20:27

She’s not lying. She’s got confused with the shingles vaccine, which does cost £450. Why so aggressive?

Sorry but this is not correct. The vaccine is available privately but it’s in two parts, and the two vaccines cost around £450 altogether.

ETA a misunderstanding on my part. Full course (2 doses):£460

BorisJohnsonsPhysique · 03/09/2024 20:27

She’s not lying. She’s got confused with the shingles vaccine, which does cost £450. Why so aggressive?

LavenderHaze19 · 03/09/2024 20:21

Correct. It’s the same at Superdrug - £150 for two doses. It cost me £300 to get my two children vaccinated. Still a lot of money but I thought it was worth it (balanced it against the potential cost of time off work or losing a holiday or missing school).

Pinkstripepurplespot · 03/09/2024 20:19

GreenTeaLikesMe · 03/09/2024 00:35

If the OP has enough money for an annual caravan holiday, she should be capable of saving a few quid a week and saving up for the vaccine even if money is tight. (FWIW, I think it should be available on the NHS - nearly every other country considers CP to be a standard mandatory vaccine.)

The thing is, CP is inevitable if you don’t do the vaccine, so it’s weird to not vaccinate and them fume when your child catches CP.

I made it until my 30s without getting it, including when my child got it, so it’s not ‘inevitable’. I got the vaccination when trying for second as I didn’t want to put any future foetuses at risk.

It’s still a monumentally shitty thing to do to let your infectious child to play out with others without at least warning people.

The OP could have made a decision about her own child, then.

I genuinely don’t know anyone this crappy in real life.

FunWithFlagz · 03/09/2024 20:13

Beautiful3 · 02/09/2024 23:12

Better he catches it now, than as an adult. Because shingles is far more painful and more likely to be admitted to hospital.

Shingles is a reactivation of the varicella (chickenpox) virus in an adult. So having chickenpox as a child will not prevent you from getting shingles.

Cailleach1 · 03/09/2024 20:07

@Overnightoats1 “The UK is one of the only countries in the developed world where they don't vaccinate against chicken pox as part of the standard schedule. The US, most of Europe and even South Africa have it on their schedule.“

I don’t know if things have changed, but it is not part of normal universal childhood vaccinations scheme in most European countries.

Below is a link to the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC). On page 18 it shows, vis a vis the Varicella vaccination, the countries where there is (a) No recommendation, (b) recommended for susceptible adults and at risk groups, and (c) Universal vaccination. This was updated in 2014, so 10 years ago. Things may have changed.

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/media/en/publications/Publications/Varicella-Guidance-2015.pdf

It only seemed to have been universally provided in Luxembourg, Germany, Greece, some parts of Italy, Some parts of Spain, Cyprus, and Latvia.

Portugal, Sweden and the former Eastern Bloc seem to be the ones where there was no recommendation at all.

The rest were like the UK where it was recommended for susceptible adults and at risk groups.

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/media/en/publications/Publications/Varicella-Guidance-2015.pdf

Balletdreamer · 03/09/2024 20:04

I am really shocked how nasty some people are being because they think £150 for a vaccine is peanuts. You’ve heard of food banks? You know that there are families living in poverty unable to buy food?

LeoOakley · 03/09/2024 20:03

lonelynewname · 03/09/2024 20:01

Are PP ok? You can still get chicken pox when vaccinated. 😩🫣

You can still get covid, despite the vaccine.

lonelynewname · 03/09/2024 20:01

Are PP ok? You can still get chicken pox when vaccinated. 😩🫣

BorisJohnsonsPhysique · 03/09/2024 19:58

Totemoneru · 03/09/2024 19:47

We don't have chicken pox vaccinated against as part of the vaccine schedule in the UK.
But you can get a vaccine.
Chicken pox isn't seen as an illness you should keep away from others because the NHS advice is try and catch it early so you don't have a rough time as an adult.
So this family didn't keep their kid at home which to be fair isn't the worst thing in the world when the advice is basically catch it if you can.
I think it should be in the regular vaccine schedule. They only don't because of the cost. And the fact that chicken pox "only" kills a few kids a year. Our government sucks.
If your kid reaches 8 or 9 without having had chicken pox, you'll be saving them from a potentially really rough time by paying for the vaccine.
If you're even more sensible, you'd pay for it when they are a baby.

The NHS advice is to stay at home when you have it and to avoid contact with people vulnerable to infection.

LeoOakley · 03/09/2024 19:57

Totemoneru · 03/09/2024 19:47

We don't have chicken pox vaccinated against as part of the vaccine schedule in the UK.
But you can get a vaccine.
Chicken pox isn't seen as an illness you should keep away from others because the NHS advice is try and catch it early so you don't have a rough time as an adult.
So this family didn't keep their kid at home which to be fair isn't the worst thing in the world when the advice is basically catch it if you can.
I think it should be in the regular vaccine schedule. They only don't because of the cost. And the fact that chicken pox "only" kills a few kids a year. Our government sucks.
If your kid reaches 8 or 9 without having had chicken pox, you'll be saving them from a potentially really rough time by paying for the vaccine.
If you're even more sensible, you'd pay for it when they are a baby.

agree

unicornpower · 03/09/2024 19:55

That’s a real shame and super irresponsible of the mum, chickenpox is vile and I had it terribly as a kid, it was miserable so I made the decision to get my kids vaccinated as soon as I could! It is expensive though, it’s £75 a dose so hardly insignificant and I’m the only one at my DDs nursery who has

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