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To hunt down these bastards who exposed my son to chicken pox

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littleredbumblebee · 02/09/2024 22:48

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went on a caravan holiday last week for 5 nights and my son who is 11 played with some kids from other families and had a great time- all good

On the last night one of the smaller boys was running around with no shirt on and he has spots, one of the other families asked and his mum said oh he has chicken pox but we though getting away would do him good.

I told her my son had never had chicken pox and said I bloody hoped my son was not going to come down with them. One of the other parents also said they should not have brought the kid. Basically it ended up with them going inside the caravan in a huff. The next day we all left

So today the day before my son is use to start at high school he woke up covered in spots and now has chicken pox and won’t be in for his first week at high school. Tonight he is now crying saying he won’t name any friends now and he won’t know his way around and no amount of comforting will calm him down. Very few kids for his school are going to this high school and he is so upset he will have missed out on making friends.

We have been in touch with his form tutor who has been great and has said they will support him and catch him up but I could bloody scream. How can some people be so bloody selfish.

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ThatsNotMyTeen · 02/09/2024 23:45

Runnerinthenight · 02/09/2024 23:41

You say CP is mild - my DH as stated above really suffered with it - he literally had sores on his feet, between his toes, on his penis. My son had it aged 4, and some of his spots became infected - he had an awful dose! If the vaccine had been available then I would have got it.

My DC2 had it aged 11 weeks. The GP said they wouldn't get it because of immunity from me and from breastfeeding, but she was wrong! Only a couple of spot, but aged 22 they got Covid, and a few months later, shingles.

i was also covered when I got it, couldn’t put a finger between the spots on my head and face in particular, had them in my mouth and all sorts. Grim: the ones on my face then became infected with MRSA. Gross. I remember brushing my hair when it had scabbed and the scabs were coming off my scalp In handfuls! Was very glad my kids had it as teenies

BESTAUNTB · 02/09/2024 23:45

I missed the first few days of secondary school (bad cold) in the 1980s and was nervous about going in but it was fine. I really enjoyed my schooldays and still have some of the friends I made there. He’ll barely remember this a few years from now, OP.

TashaTudor · 02/09/2024 23:44

Runnerinthenight · 02/09/2024 23:41

You say CP is mild - my DH as stated above really suffered with it - he literally had sores on his feet, between his toes, on his penis. My son had it aged 4, and some of his spots became infected - he had an awful dose! If the vaccine had been available then I would have got it.

My DC2 had it aged 11 weeks. The GP said they wouldn't get it because of immunity from me and from breastfeeding, but she was wrong! Only a couple of spot, but aged 22 they got Covid, and a few months later, shingles.

And a live vaccine would have likely had the same effect or maybe a but milder. Shingles is caused by having chicken pox so anyone who has had pox (in the vaccine or otherwise) can get shingles

ToBeDetermined · 02/09/2024 23:44

TashaTudor · 02/09/2024 23:37

Vaccines aren't always safe and can have side effects, especially since it contains the live vaccine. So catching chicken pox from a kid at school has the same risk and shingles us a reactivated form of chicken pox which would happen vaccinated or not

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The vaccine uses an attenuated live virus in a tiny dose so it’s weakened & not the same as encountering it in the wild in potentially a larger dose. It is very safe. Far safer than catching CP.

Shingles is the virus re-emerging when your immune system is low. Catching CP in the wild doesn’t protect you from it. Otherwise shingles would not have existed before the vaccine was invented when it did.

The vaccine has reduced the risk of shingles. The elderly are at higher risk of developing shingles as their immune systems wane, which is why they get a booster vaccine around age 60/65. It protects them against shingles.

Delphiniumandlupins · 02/09/2024 23:43

SeashellCandle · 02/09/2024 23:15

Yes op why don't you go back in time and get your son the CP vaccine?! The one that isn't on the immunisation list and costs £££. Some posters on here are unbelievable.

What's genuinely baffling is the sheer entitlement of people who think if they can't have it for free then they would simply cut off their nose to spite their face. It's a one time investment into lifetime protection for your child against a potentially serious virus (or a disruptive one at the very least). Nobody can claim they cannot afford the hundred pounds or so if they REALLY WANTED to. If your car breaks down or you want a new household gadget or you get a fine or you end up spending an extra night on holiday, then you manage to find the money.

If you look at it logically, a child coming down with chicken pox might mean at least 2 weeks of family disruption. One family member may not be able to work and would have a loss of income that easily equals or exceeds the cost of the vaccine. If a child comes down with chicken pox before a holiday and things get cancelled, you also lose far more than the cost of the vaccine. It's a no brainer really.

What is genuinely baffling is people who don't understand that lots of families don't have £150 available. They don't own a car, or if they do a breakdown is a major catastrophe. They don't have a holiday every year.

PyongyangKipperbang · 02/09/2024 23:42

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£150 when you cant afford to put the heating on in winter or need food banks to feed your kids is not "relatively cheap".

I stand by what I said.

littleredbumblebee · 02/09/2024 23:42

I know I am going to accused of drip feeding here but he did have the first dose of the vaccine when he was 7 and had a reaction to it so was told he could not have the second dose. I didn’t mention it because I thought it was irrelevant, obviously not, I had forgotten how much some on mumsnet like to stick the boot in.

also of course I am not going to hunt them down for goodness sake.

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FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 02/09/2024 23:42

Beezknees · 02/09/2024 23:09

Really silly comment. If you're concerned about a particular illness and there is a vaccine available, get it. It's common sense.

He could have still caught it even if he was vaccinated. Would still have been off school, just not been as sick.

Runnerinthenight · 02/09/2024 23:41

TashaTudor · 02/09/2024 23:33

Chicken pox is mild, the vaccine uses the live virus and the spots tend to come out and scab over within 5 days. It's not bloody polio for crying out loud. By getting the vaccine you're exposing your child to the virus anyway so why bother. Just go play at the pox party and deal with it like you would a stomach bug for a week

You say CP is mild - my DH as stated above really suffered with it - he literally had sores on his feet, between his toes, on his penis. My son had it aged 4, and some of his spots became infected - he had an awful dose! If the vaccine had been available then I would have got it.

My DC2 had it aged 11 weeks. The GP said they wouldn't get it because of immunity from me and from breastfeeding, but she was wrong! Only a couple of spot, but aged 22 they got Covid, and a few months later, shingles.

NotAgainWilson · 02/09/2024 23:40

Labraradabrador · 02/09/2024 23:38

Very much available, just not covered by the nhs.

Either way, if it is not covered by the NHS, there are good reasons behind that. No need to berate a mum for not using a vaccine that is not even in the list of essential vaccines.

ACynicalDad · 02/09/2024 23:40

It’s a normal childhood illness, we vaccinated our kids but I wouldn’t cancel a holiday over it unless I could get the money back. May we’ll have come out with it whilst away anyway.

Labraradabrador · 02/09/2024 23:40

TashaTudor · 02/09/2024 23:37

Vaccines aren't always safe and can have side effects, especially since it contains the live vaccine. So catching chicken pox from a kid at school has the same risk and shingles us a reactivated form of chicken pox which would happen vaccinated or not

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Oh lord, where to begin? So many incorrect assertions in such a short post

Lucy25 · 02/09/2024 23:39

Rocksaltrita · 02/09/2024 22:57

Why didn’t you have him vaccinated? Hardly costs anything and standard in many countries.

This vaccination is not actually part of the national vaccine schedule in the UK

Toriiaa · 02/09/2024 23:39

Chicken pox isn’t a big deal, it can also be caused by deficiencies. You may have found it’s been a complete fluke for him to “catch it”
theyll do anything to charge you for a vaccine nowadays.
its a short illness, very few complications. Don’t get upset about it, I think I’d be glad it’s happened as an adolescent over being an adult

flaxensunshine · 02/09/2024 23:39

Psychologymam · 02/09/2024 23:34

It’s not pointless as it’s not always mild. In addition, getting the vaccination means you’re not at risk for shingles in later life which can be horrifically painful.

I know I had shingles in my 20s and was very ill for a long time.
i just think the world has gone a bit mad since covid. You can’t vaccinate everything and as has been pointed out many people wouldn’t be able to afford it.
Anyway getting back to the point of the question, OP your son will be fine and make friends in no time x

Labraradabrador · 02/09/2024 23:38

NotAgainWilson · 02/09/2024 23:37

as far as I’m aware, the chicken pox vaccine was never available in the UK. My paediatrician said that it was all about the esthetics rather than actual benefits. Must be true. DS was covered but no scars remain.

Very much available, just not covered by the nhs.

ShamblesRock · 02/09/2024 23:38

Even the poorest people still have home insurance or car insurance

Often they don't have the first, the second is a legal requirement if they even have a car.

And it is completely irrelevant what the cots would be in the US.

Rocksaltrita · 02/09/2024 23:38

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Labraradabrador · 02/09/2024 23:38

TashaTudor · 02/09/2024 23:33

Chicken pox is mild, the vaccine uses the live virus and the spots tend to come out and scab over within 5 days. It's not bloody polio for crying out loud. By getting the vaccine you're exposing your child to the virus anyway so why bother. Just go play at the pox party and deal with it like you would a stomach bug for a week

A friend’s child had a stroke as a result of chicken pox - was touch and go as to whether they would survive, and lingering questions around long term impact. Mostly it is fine, but seems like an unnecessary risk when a vaccine is available.

NotAgainWilson · 02/09/2024 23:37

Rocksaltrita · 02/09/2024 22:57

Why didn’t you have him vaccinated? Hardly costs anything and standard in many countries.

as far as I’m aware, the chicken pox vaccine was never available in the UK. My paediatrician said that it was all about the esthetics rather than actual benefits. Must be true. DS was covered but no scars remain.

TashaTudor · 02/09/2024 23:37

Psychologymam · 02/09/2024 23:34

It’s not pointless as it’s not always mild. In addition, getting the vaccination means you’re not at risk for shingles in later life which can be horrifically painful.

Vaccines aren't always safe and can have side effects, especially since it contains the live vaccine. So catching chicken pox from a kid at school has the same risk and shingles us a reactivated form of chicken pox which would happen vaccinated or not

Pudmyboy · 02/09/2024 23:37

Over 90% of the UK population has had chickenpox, usually get it much younger than your son, but as others have said, it's much better to have when younger, it can be a serious illness when caught as an adult, so I would venture to say those people have done your son a favour, if there were no plans to have him vaccinated very soon (dons hard hat and flameproof overalls)

Runnerinthenight · 02/09/2024 23:37

Not that it's much consolation now, but it's better that he has it when he's young. My DH caught it from our then 2 year old eldest, and let's just say, it was far from pretty!

Toriiaa · 02/09/2024 23:37

PolePrince55 · 02/09/2024 23:07

He goes the Vaccine police 🤪

They’re like the terrorists of MN.

whowantspopcorn · 02/09/2024 23:36

TheCoolOliveBalonz · 02/09/2024 23:27

Was the plan for him to avoid it his whole life?

This.

If this was the case then vaccination seems like the obvious thing to do. Why would you not vaccinate yet simultaneously expect never come into contact with an incredibly common and incredibly contagious virus that virtually all unvaccinated people contract at some point?

I had chicken pox as a child, all 3 DC have had it when they were little and it never really crossed my mind about where it came from and who was the source of the infection- it was just an inevitable thing that was going to happen.

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