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littleredbumblebee · 02/09/2024 22:48

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went on a caravan holiday last week for 5 nights and my son who is 11 played with some kids from other families and had a great time- all good

On the last night one of the smaller boys was running around with no shirt on and he has spots, one of the other families asked and his mum said oh he has chicken pox but we though getting away would do him good.

I told her my son had never had chicken pox and said I bloody hoped my son was not going to come down with them. One of the other parents also said they should not have brought the kid. Basically it ended up with them going inside the caravan in a huff. The next day we all left

So today the day before my son is use to start at high school he woke up covered in spots and now has chicken pox and won’t be in for his first week at high school. Tonight he is now crying saying he won’t name any friends now and he won’t know his way around and no amount of comforting will calm him down. Very few kids for his school are going to this high school and he is so upset he will have missed out on making friends.

We have been in touch with his form tutor who has been great and has said they will support him and catch him up but I could bloody scream. How can some people be so bloody selfish.

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BeachParty · 03/09/2024 11:00

"Pox parties" are bloody stupid as well.
"I know, let's take my kids to a party to make them deliberately poorly!"
🙄

BeachParty · 03/09/2024 10:57

Galoop · 02/09/2024 23:21

I think everyone on here is being unreasonable. Sure, Chicken pox isn't a big deal and it's good to get it over with, but taking your kid on holiday and purposely exposing people is the ultimate dick move! What a cunt

This!
I was going to vote YABU as everyone gets chicken pox at some point, and he's done well if he's got to 11 without catching it.
However if you're deliberately exposing people to it by letting your kid play out on holiday, you're an arsehole.
Could be immune compromised or someone who is pregnant about.
So YANBU

Garlicnaan · 03/09/2024 10:56

Danfromdownunder · 03/09/2024 04:14

Our children are all vaccinated against CP in the normal routine immunisations in Australia. My daughter still got it in Portugal (she was 19 at the time) and had it quite bad. I’m not sure if the vaccine wears off perhaps over time? I’m shocked it’s not standard somewhere like the UK to be honest.

Yes I'm sure it potentially wearing off after something like 15-20 years was also a risk factor as it's more dangerous to get it later in life.

ManchesterLu · 03/09/2024 10:55

It is better to have it now. However the parents should have let you make the decision of whether to expose him to it or not.

Animatic · 03/09/2024 10:52

Someone I know took her baby with chicken pox on a holiday with 4hrs Easy Jet flight involved. Her reasoning "who cares, I am not going to ruin my holiday, it's the 2nd day and not very visible anyway". Mind you, she is also married to a very religious man who likes bringing God/what's right to do acc to God in every second convo.
People do all sorts of things they should not.

PizzaPowder · 03/09/2024 10:49

Didn't quote the post i was replying to - was in reply to the Chicken pox parties in the 80's.

Yip! I got my chicken pox at one of these, all the cousins together 😀

Our friends wee boy had Chicken pox so we sent ours round but unfortuantely he didn't catch it.

OP - poor timing but i'm sure it will be ok.

JeremiahBullfrog · 03/09/2024 10:46

I am often more inclined to get upset when I am ill; from what I dimly remember of having chickenpox aged about 6 I expect it's the kind of disease that plays on your emotions. Hopefully your son will feel more positive when he recovers!

Secondary school was so big and overwhelming for me I don't think I made friends for months, and I don't think that was that unusual, so a week probably won't make that much difference. If you're lucky missing the first week might make him stand out (in a good way) amongst his peers, rather than just fading into the crowd. Y7 at my school was all seating plans and things so you often weren't next to the kind of people you got on well with naturally and it took a while to gravitate towards them.

BitOutOfPractice · 03/09/2024 10:46

@twodowntwotogo you sound like an insufferable prig. With absolutely no idea that anyone else has a different life to you.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 03/09/2024 10:44

Beezknees · 02/09/2024 23:11

So suck it up and pay, or deal with the fact that your child may catch it if you can't afford it.

Helpful!

ttcat37 · 03/09/2024 10:43

user1498572889 · 03/09/2024 10:31

@Crunchymum
Can you get chickenpox more than once?12345

  • It is possible, but very unusual.
  • Susceptibility to getting chickenpox twice depends on factors such as age at first infection, severity of the initial case, and immune system strength.
  • Vaccination can help prevent chickenpox.
I do not know anyone who genuinely had it more than once .

I had it twice. Once from a chickenpox party as a young child, once as an adult.

ttcat37 · 03/09/2024 10:42

They did him a favour. I had chickenpox as an adult and it was horrific.

Crunchymum · 03/09/2024 10:41

user1498572889 · 03/09/2024 10:31

@Crunchymum
Can you get chickenpox more than once?12345

  • It is possible, but very unusual.
  • Susceptibility to getting chickenpox twice depends on factors such as age at first infection, severity of the initial case, and immune system strength.
  • Vaccination can help prevent chickenpox.
I do not know anyone who genuinely had it more than once .

As I say I really don't think the "first" time was CP. But that's what the GP said.

2nd and 3rd time were the "same" outbreak to me. She had a few spots / showed symptoms but then appeared better after a few days. Her sibling then got quite a typical dose of CP.... And then as he recovered DC2 came up with a load more spots and had what I'd consider consider 'normal CP'. That was a fun summer!!

CoffeeCantata · 03/09/2024 10:34

Oh dear, OP - that's bad luck.

I used to want to hunt down people like dogs if they 'gave' me or my family their nasty bugs! Very silly and I'm not being serious, but I understand the impulse. Grrr!

But it's one thing to catch something which the other person doesn't know they've got - and quite another to knowingly be around someone when you've got an illness...particularly tummy things. I can put up with a cold.

user1498572889 · 03/09/2024 10:31

@Crunchymum
Can you get chickenpox more than once?12345

  • It is possible, but very unusual.
  • Susceptibility to getting chickenpox twice depends on factors such as age at first infection, severity of the initial case, and immune system strength.
  • Vaccination can help prevent chickenpox.
I do not know anyone who genuinely had it more than once .

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stardust777 · 03/09/2024 10:28

Sorry OP, chickenpox is so unpleasant (although I think it's better to have as a child than an adult).

Easier said than done, but DC should avoid scratching (I have a scar from when I had it thirty years ago). It might be worth getting hydrocolloid patches for any spots on the face.

Spidey66 · 03/09/2024 10:27

I didn't know there was one either.

It's a bit selfish of the other family, but it's chickenpox not bubonic plague. Every kid gets it, it's usually relatively mild in kids. It's bad timing but not the end of the world.

BlueFlint · 03/09/2024 10:26

Good grief Mumsnet really can be a pit of vipers!

I'm so sorry for your poor son, OP. Hope he isn't suffering too badly. I'm sure missing his first week feels like the end of the world right now, but he'll slot in just fine. At my old school he would probably even have been assigned someone in his form group to help him find his way around when he starts, although who knows if they'll think to do that. Either way, he'll be ok, it's such early days, the other kids won't all have settled by the time he joins them.

Totally understand your frustration at the other boys parents, some people are just incredibly selfish and or stupid.

MrsSunshine2b · 03/09/2024 10:23

1dayatatime · 03/09/2024 10:20

There are around 4 to 5 deaths a year in the under 9s from chickenpox (compared to say Covid at 1 to 2). Chickenpox amongst under. 9s also leads to higher rates of hospitalisation, my DS when aged 3 was hospitalised.

Fortunately we have moved on since the 1980s and the barbaric practices of deliberately trying to infect young children. Today most parents choose to have their children vaccinated against chickenpox in line with most other developed countries.

Maybe worldwide but not in the UK. Many people aren't even aware there is a vaccine and some won't pay £150 for the two doses. Many more argue it's unnecessary because it's usually mild, which I don't understand because even if your child isn't one of the unlucky few who are hospitalised or die, it's still uncomfortable and involves missing school and work for parents.

edgeware · 03/09/2024 10:22

You can all say “you can get the vaccine at Boots” but I live in a major city and couldn’t get it, the appointments kept getting cancelled and I eventually gave up

RausageSoul · 03/09/2024 10:21

Jadebanditchillipepper · 03/09/2024 01:04

So yes, there's a vaccine available and even though HM Government don't think it's important enough to include in the childhood vaccinations schedule, we're all supposed to know about it and pay £150 we don't have to have our children protected so that everyone else can take their pox ridden children on holiday. Really???

Nobody, vaccine or not, should knowingly take a child with CP anywhere in public because there could be immunocompromised people (who can't have the vaccine, because they're immunocompromised) and pregnant women, who could become seriously unwell as a result of catching it.

If this thread was about D and V rather than CP, everyone would be up in arms saying that no way should you take a vomiting child out in public, but apparently CP is OK because there's a PRIVATE, PAID for vaccine available and everyone should know about it by osmosis or something and prioritise everything in their whole lives (including a three day caravan holiday in North Wales) to get it.

Right, OK.

OP, I'm so sorry that your son has chicken pox right now at the beginning of year 7 - I hope he recovers quickly and settles really well into his school.

And no, YANBU for expecting parents with pox ridden children to keep them at home

This is the only response you should read OP.

I had no idea there was a CP vaccine, it's never been mentioned to me by any healthcare professional, ever. I could easily afford one but that's immaterial.

AyeDeadOn · 03/09/2024 10:21

The chicken pox vaccine costs £150 in boots which is a lot of money to many of us.

SerafinasGoose · 03/09/2024 10:21

I am very, very pro-vaccination. I'm not irresponsible when it comes to these things, and opted to pay for the Meningitis B vaccine for which DC was born (just) too early to qualify.

But in the case of chickenpox, we took the long-considered and informed decision not to vaccinate our DC. This is because this inoculation does not offer lifelong protection. It could, therefore, simply be a postponement rather than a prevention of the disease and generally the later people catch it, the nastier it can be.

Of course all diseases can be dangerous to a small number of people. That was part of the risk vs. benefits decision we had to weigh up.

Like most children, DC had a mild case of it early on and was fine. Theoretically it can be caught twice but the second instance is generally much less severe.

IMO, you made the right choice not to vaccinate on this occasion, and the smug posters informing you this is what you 'should' have done are hardly helpful considering that ship has already sailed.

Hope your DC is soon recovered and makes a smooth transition into secondary school.

1dayatatime · 03/09/2024 10:20

WiseBrownOwl · 02/09/2024 23:04

Does no one remember the basically chicken pox parties if the 80's Confused

Got it out the way quick and everyone got it at the same time, win win, if you ask me.

There are around 4 to 5 deaths a year in the under 9s from chickenpox (compared to say Covid at 1 to 2). Chickenpox amongst under. 9s also leads to higher rates of hospitalisation, my DS when aged 3 was hospitalised.

Fortunately we have moved on since the 1980s and the barbaric practices of deliberately trying to infect young children. Today most parents choose to have their children vaccinated against chickenpox in line with most other developed countries.

ClaudiaWankleman · 03/09/2024 10:18

ThisBlueCrab · 02/09/2024 23:22

Because it is far more widely known that chicken pox van leave some children severely ill and kills a lot more than you first think.

Anyone immunosuppressed is at extreme risk etc. So it has been frowned upon for well over 20 years to hold pox parties.

'It kills a lot more than you first think'

Just to put this into context, it's about 10 people a year in England and Wales. 10 very tragic events, but I don't think it meets the criteria of 'a lot more than you first think'. There's no need for anyone to be panicked about chicken pox.

MrsSunshine2b · 03/09/2024 10:17

The only reason that it's not a standard vaccination in the UK is because the NHS has decided it's cheaper to just let everyone catch it as children as it's rarely severe in children. You must have known he would eventually catch it as it's a very common illness and almost everyone who isn't vaccinated gets it. If you weren't planning on vaccinating him (which I assume not because you would have done it 10 years ago) they've done you and him a huge favour. It's often serious in adults.