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littleredbumblebee · 02/09/2024 22:48

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went on a caravan holiday last week for 5 nights and my son who is 11 played with some kids from other families and had a great time- all good

On the last night one of the smaller boys was running around with no shirt on and he has spots, one of the other families asked and his mum said oh he has chicken pox but we though getting away would do him good.

I told her my son had never had chicken pox and said I bloody hoped my son was not going to come down with them. One of the other parents also said they should not have brought the kid. Basically it ended up with them going inside the caravan in a huff. The next day we all left

So today the day before my son is use to start at high school he woke up covered in spots and now has chicken pox and won’t be in for his first week at high school. Tonight he is now crying saying he won’t name any friends now and he won’t know his way around and no amount of comforting will calm him down. Very few kids for his school are going to this high school and he is so upset he will have missed out on making friends.

We have been in touch with his form tutor who has been great and has said they will support him and catch him up but I could bloody scream. How can some people be so bloody selfish.

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Mummyford · 10/09/2024 11:12

wombat15 · 10/09/2024 10:47

The NHS are going to vaccinate children between 12 and 18 months now. They didn't before because they were worried shingles would increase as a result but the vaccine for that has been rolled out now.

That's very good news!

There has been a shingles vaccine since 2006, now mostly supplanted by a newer one (2017), so they have been slower than necessary, but great that they're rolling it out.

wombat15 · 10/09/2024 10:47

Mummyford · 06/09/2024 17:08

They're not unreasonable, but medical knowledge changes and develops. Smoking causes cancer and fewer women die from childbirth if doctors wash their hands as examples. The latest evidence now points to it being better to be vaccinated than to catch chicken pox. The NHS has been an outlier among developed countries in not offering the vaccine. They really should add it to the schedule, or at the very least, raise awareness that it exists and the reasons to give it to your children if possible.

The NHS are going to vaccinate children between 12 and 18 months now. They didn't before because they were worried shingles would increase as a result but the vaccine for that has been rolled out now.

MrsSunshine2b · 07/09/2024 21:45

Crazymumx3 · 03/09/2024 22:50

Hmm lots of ppl are suggesting why you didn't get your son vaccinated it is not a compulsory vaccine and almost always better that kids are not vaccinated against chickenpox...no?

No...it's almost always better that kids ARE vaccinated against chicken pox.

mathanxiety · 07/09/2024 04:11

parkrun500club · 06/09/2024 10:56

There are a lot of assumptions and a good deal of privilege behind your statement that the majority of the healthy population can shrug off a virus with paracetamol. Chicken pox can be devastating to certain populations - and you can pass it on long before you reach for that paracetamol

But most adults will have had it as children anyway.

And you are contagious way before you show symptoms, so there isn't much you can do in that regard.

The worse thing is shingles, which is really nasty.

It's the fact that you are contagious before you show symptoms that makes vaccination desirable. Vaccination greatly reduces the chance of catching it so you can be pretty sure you're not unwittingly passing it to others.

CP can cause birth defects in fetuses if the mother is exposed in the first 20 weeks. I disagree that shingles is the worse thing. CP is far from the benign inconvenience it's being made out to be on this thread.

Firefly1987 · 07/09/2024 02:24

I'm 36 and never had chickenpox-can't be that rare to not ever have caught it surely? I rushed out to get the vaccine a couple months ago because my mum came down with shingles. Looking back it was a low risk catching CP from someone with a shingles rash but I panicked. Glad I had the vaccine now although I'm unlikely ever to be around kids with CP (no kids in our family) just because I know it's a lot worse in adults. You pay £75 a dose and you need two-but they are a few weeks apart, which is slightly better than £150 all in one go.

Mummyford · 06/09/2024 17:08

Womblealongwithme · 06/09/2024 10:57

Absolutely. Mine are young adults now and I didn't know about this vaccination either.

They're not unreasonable, but medical knowledge changes and develops. Smoking causes cancer and fewer women die from childbirth if doctors wash their hands as examples. The latest evidence now points to it being better to be vaccinated than to catch chicken pox. The NHS has been an outlier among developed countries in not offering the vaccine. They really should add it to the schedule, or at the very least, raise awareness that it exists and the reasons to give it to your children if possible.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 06/09/2024 12:11

Newusername3kidss · 06/09/2024 07:19

Like everyone on here I’m a little confused how he’s got to 11 not having it and you’ve not vaccinated. All my kids got it when they were around 2/3 but if they hadn’t had it before school I would have vaccinated.

Bad timing but it’s out of the way now.

The OP DID get her child the first dose of the vaccination, @Newusername3kidss - but he had such a bad reaction that he was hospitalised, and the doctors told her he must NOT have the second dose!

Womblealongwithme · 06/09/2024 10:57

parkrun500club · 06/09/2024 10:55

AAAAGGGGGHHHHHH!

Why are people unreasonable for not spending loads of money on a vaccine that the NHS didn't think was necessary until recently.

Absolutely. Mine are young adults now and I didn't know about this vaccination either.

parkrun500club · 06/09/2024 10:56

There are a lot of assumptions and a good deal of privilege behind your statement that the majority of the healthy population can shrug off a virus with paracetamol. Chicken pox can be devastating to certain populations - and you can pass it on long before you reach for that paracetamol

But most adults will have had it as children anyway.

And you are contagious way before you show symptoms, so there isn't much you can do in that regard.

The worse thing is shingles, which is really nasty.

parkrun500club · 06/09/2024 10:55

Yourcatisnotsorry · 05/09/2024 09:40

They were being very unreasonable to knowingly expose other people to their kids illness. It can be very serious and cause miscarriages etc.
however this is a disease for which a readily available safe and effective vaccine is available so you are U to not vaccinate and then complain about him catching the disease. Same the 100s who moan they miss holidays or other important events because their kids catch it. Vaccinate people!

AAAAGGGGGHHHHHH!

Why are people unreasonable for not spending loads of money on a vaccine that the NHS didn't think was necessary until recently.

wombat15 · 06/09/2024 09:12

Newusername3kidss · 06/09/2024 07:19

Like everyone on here I’m a little confused how he’s got to 11 not having it and you’ve not vaccinated. All my kids got it when they were around 2/3 but if they hadn’t had it before school I would have vaccinated.

Bad timing but it’s out of the way now.

You presumably don't live in the UK if you are confused about why a child has not been vaccinated before school.

BorisJohnsonsPhysique · 06/09/2024 08:30

Maybe read the OP’s posts to relieve your confusion?

Newusername3kidss · 06/09/2024 07:19

Like everyone on here I’m a little confused how he’s got to 11 not having it and you’ve not vaccinated. All my kids got it when they were around 2/3 but if they hadn’t had it before school I would have vaccinated.

Bad timing but it’s out of the way now.

Beenthroughit · 06/09/2024 07:16

Oh I didn't know that thanks

mathanxiety · 06/09/2024 03:59

EveryonesMother · 05/09/2024 11:55

When something is not compulsory or written in law it is a CHOICE.
Therefore it is an individual's right whether to disclose or not. EVERY PERSONS MEDICAL HISTORY IS PERSONAL AND PRIVATE not everyones business. What a ludicrous statement! Our entire NHS works under terms of privacy.
Not everyone is at risk from a virus, the majority of the healthy population can shrug off a virus with simple paracetamol!

I'm not talking about "disclosure." I'm talking about a sense of responsibility to society, not doctor - patient privacy or whether your neighbours know you've been vaccinated.

Everyone is at risk of catching a virus like CP that is contagious before you realise you have it. You could sit on a bus beside someone whose spouse is doing chemotherapy, and pass it on. You could send a perfectly healthy looking child to school and she might infect a child whose mother is pregnant.

There are a lot of assumptions and a good deal of privilege behind your statement that the majority of the healthy population can shrug off a virus with paracetamol. Chicken pox can be devastating to certain populations - and you can pass it on long before you reach for that paracetamol.

StrawBeretMoose · 06/09/2024 01:26

Beenthroughit · 05/09/2024 13:53

As an adult I've not had chickenpox
No vaccine back in my day.
It's not just children you have to think about taking your post child out and about

You can if you want have a blood test to check for immunity (I did before TTC as didn’t want to catch chicken pox whilst pregnant).

When I got DC vaccinated the pharmacist said a lot of adults in 30s /40s were having the vaccine.

InWalksBarberalla · 06/09/2024 00:16

Isabellivi · 05/09/2024 23:58

You realize it isn’t recommended for health reasons? It’s safer to get chickenpox than the vaccine for majority of people . Idiot.

Where are you getting that from? Somebody should tell the rest of the developed world - most of which has been vaccinating against chicken pox as standard for many years. Also they should tell the JCVI who recently recommended adding chicken pox to the standard childhood immunisation program in the UK.

Isabellivi · 05/09/2024 23:58

You realize it isn’t recommended for health reasons? It’s safer to get chickenpox than the vaccine for majority of people . Idiot.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/09/2024 16:51

Do you think that possibility makes it easier for someone to magic up £150, though, @MrsSunshine2b?

I suspect that they are keeping their fingers crossed that their child will not get chickenpox, and if they do, they cobble together a patchwork of help from family and unpaid leave.

The bottom line is that if there isn’t a spare £150 lying around, many, many families will not be able to get the vaccinations.

MrsSunshine2b · 05/09/2024 14:13

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/09/2024 14:09

@SlippyYinzer - do you think everyone has £150 lying around spare, to pay for the vaccine? During a cost of living crisis?

How are the people who can't fork out £150 coping with the inevitable 1-2 weeks off work to care for a sick child though?

SlippyYinzer · 05/09/2024 14:11

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/09/2024 14:09

@SlippyYinzer - do you think everyone has £150 lying around spare, to pay for the vaccine? During a cost of living crisis?

Priorities...
And I only saw much later that OP mentioned financial hardship.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/09/2024 14:09

@SlippyYinzer - do you think everyone has £150 lying around spare, to pay for the vaccine? During a cost of living crisis?

littleredbumblebee · 05/09/2024 14:00

He is just really frustrated. He is not really ill and just a bit tired which is good

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SlippyYinzer · 05/09/2024 13:57

OkPedro · 02/09/2024 23:04

Yes op why don't you go back in time and get your son the CP vaccine?! The one that isn't on the immunisation list and costs £££
Some posters on here are unbelievable.

Your poor son and his first week of high school! It's great you've been in touch with his tutor. My son started secondary last week. He came home today saying he's made a couple of friends.. apparently most didn't even talk to each other for the first week.. I'm sure he'll settle in quickly 🤞

Yeah, god forbid you should have to spend money to protect your child!

Beenthroughit · 05/09/2024 13:53

As an adult I've not had chickenpox
No vaccine back in my day.
It's not just children you have to think about taking your post child out and about

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