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Is it ok for kids to chase ducks?

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QuackersQuestion · 02/09/2024 00:26

Today at a family attraction, there were quite a lot of ducks, and a big lake. Lots of space for kids to run around.

Two primary age kids were chasing ducks around. The parent was loosely with them, could see what the kids were doing, and allowed the kids to continue to chase the ducks. Probably for about five minutes. No contact made with the ducks, just chasing right behind.

Another member of the public came into view, with their own family. And called out firmly but calmly to the two kids "Don't chase the ducks, that's wrong". This was the only person to comment out of quite a few passers by.

The kids ran away, the parent was shocked but said nothing, the commenting member of public kept walking. No great drama.

But it got me thinking. So my question is, is it bad for kids to chase ducks - YABU. Or is it ok for kids to chase ducks - YANBU. If you don't think it's ok, would you tell a kid who was chasing ducks, to stop?

OP posts:
Lovelysummerdays · 02/09/2024 10:25

gannett · 02/09/2024 09:28

Ahahaha kids who chase seagulls or GEESE will swiftly get a lesson in why that's a bad idea without anyone else having to intervene. Very bad idea to mess with geese, the most "fuck around and find out" creatures in the whole animal kingdom.

The geese at work were Canadian and actually quite timid but massive poopers. I think they’d come at dusk / dawn normally. Never had an issue chasing off seagulls but Im sure plenty of people have thought wtf as child launches themselves out of seat and runs around picnic table shouting and madly flapping arms.

Its enough to scatter them for a minute and then they creep closer. They are sneaky though one scared my daughter into dropping her fish and chips. So I stupidly re wrapped mines and put it on a low wall next to us then as I picked up hers to put in bin so as not to encourage the birds. It took seconds but they’d ripped it open and made off with my dinner.

I was gutted.

TartanPaper · 02/09/2024 10:23

I can’t believe parents who think it’s fine for a child to chase animals at all.

Of course it’s not okay, it’s never okay. And if an animal turns on that child and bites then it’ll be the animals fault.

Check yourself OP, never okay to chase any animals.

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 02/09/2024 10:12

disdisdisisgood · 02/09/2024 04:18

I don't think it's ok to chase ducks. But the double think on mumsnet is sometimes astonishing. I presume everyone on this thread is vegetarian, or at least, never eats crispy duck from a Chinese.

Eh?

Catafult · 02/09/2024 10:12

Whatafustercluck · 02/09/2024 10:00

Completely false equivalence. Even if they eat meat, most people still support cruelty free, humane rearing and slaughter of animals. Chasing an animal around and causing it a great deal of unnecessary stress, just for your own fun, is not even a comparison.

I don’t think there’s a humane way to raise and kill animals. Agree to disagree 🤷‍♀️

Catafult · 02/09/2024 10:11

CoffeeGood · 02/09/2024 09:42

I disagree, it's one thing to eat meat because humans were designed to and another to cause distress to a creature purely for "fun". One serves a purpose, the other does not.

So causing distress to animals is ok sometimes

MrNarwhal · 02/09/2024 10:06

Ffs what is wrong with people? No it's not OK to allow children to chase wild animals. You are teaching them that it's fine to cause stress and potential injury to a sentient animal. Stress exacerbates any underlying health issues in wildlife, chasing can cause injury as the birds scatter in panic and any young could be separated from mum in the process.

I have and will continue to point this out politely to children I see chasing animals. Because I care more about the welfare of the animals than what an entitled parent thinks of me.

k3dh · 02/09/2024 10:05

Chasing animals and potentially causing them distress shows a complete lack of empathy - and a complete lack of parenting. It's different if a dog wants to play chase with some toys of course.

Tractorsanddiggers · 02/09/2024 10:05

I thought pigeons carried a lot of nasty diseases so I thought that was why they were shooed away. Ducks, spiders and other harmless wildlife obviously not but I think this is where the thinking around pigeons comes from. You get spikes to discourage pigeons in cities as their poo is so toxic. I haven't seen ducks being chased, but pigeons yes

HelpMePlease1981 · 02/09/2024 10:04

These birds are not toys. No you should not chase them.

brightdazzling · 02/09/2024 10:03

RedHelenB · 02/09/2024 09:49

That's where you're wrong, animals don't have feelings just like humans do. Still don't think chasing pigeons/ ducks should be encouraged but it's not quite the same as chasing a human with a machte.

Wow. Surely you don't genuinely believe animals aren't capable of experiencing distress and fear? Have you ever interacted with an animal in any way??

Dearg · 02/09/2024 10:03

Yes it’s wrong to let children chase wild animals - just as it’s wrong to let your dog do it, Mrs Jones.

Even my dogs know better.

Beezknees · 02/09/2024 10:01

Bubblesallaround · 02/09/2024 08:52

My 2 year old loves to chase birds at the park. Maybe I should stop him after this thread!?

Edited

Yes, you should. Terrible parenting.

BreatheAndFocus · 02/09/2024 10:01

Of course it’s wrong! In the last few weeks, I’ve seen children chase ducks and swans (and yes, I did wish the swan defended itself), gulls and, shockingly, one who tried to stamp on pigeons while his fuckwitted parents walked along behind.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 02/09/2024 10:00

GasPanic · 02/09/2024 09:54

Although I don't think kids chasing ducks is very nice, ducks have wings and can swim, and if they are annoyed enough then they will generally go somewhere else. Unless you are attacking the nests, and then you may get a nasty shock as they will probably come back at you.

I was walking around a lake the other day and some people were letting their young child get very close to a swan, which was probably interested in food. She wasn't chasing it, but getting very close to a bird of that size is inadvisable. They can do some damage.

I left them to it. Recreational Darwinism and all that.

I recall my DB agreed about 5 or 6, was bitten by a local duck (just mallard) but it bloody hurt him.

We used to chase pigeons but were only scared of Canada geese and swans.

Whatafustercluck · 02/09/2024 10:00

Catafult · 02/09/2024 09:38

Exactly what I always think when I read these sort of threads. Either everyone on them is vegan, or else they’re just enormous hypocrites 😂

Completely false equivalence. Even if they eat meat, most people still support cruelty free, humane rearing and slaughter of animals. Chasing an animal around and causing it a great deal of unnecessary stress, just for your own fun, is not even a comparison.

IWasHittingMyMarks · 02/09/2024 09:59

Of course it's not okay. Poor parenting for an easy life in the short term; otherwise, they'd have to engage with and redirect their children's energy and they clearly couldn't be arsed.

We have to deal with such children and parents in classrooms. It sucks.

QuestionableMouse · 02/09/2024 09:59

No.

HTH.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 02/09/2024 09:58

It’s not ok it’s cruel. Last time this happened we were in a local big park very popular with wildlife, ducks and geese.

When you see the baby ducklings, goslings and even baby herons it’s cute. Squirrels are very tame there too. One side has a dogs allowed, the other is no dogs allowed.

I’m always surprised that the very popular cafe there doesn’t sell duck and geese food as bread isn’t good for them.

whichonethistime · 02/09/2024 09:55

The posts calling out hypocrisy annoy me. Fair enough if you think people shouldn't eat meat but surely you don't think the people picking up some minced beef from Tesco to make a chilli con carne on a lazy Sunday are the same as people who torture kittens for fun?

You can think they're both bad but surely you can see there's different levels?

And it's the same with this. We are not talking about eating duck. We are talking about people causing stress to animals for fun and encouraging their children to.

The idea that the ducks might enjoy it is laughable. They fly away in fear of their lives. They come back because it's their home, source of food etc.

For someone to enjoy making something feel fear and stress is concerning to me. Shooing off seagulls who are trying to fly down and eat the food from your hands is different. It's trying to protect your food and your fingers and it's scary being repeatedly flown at.

I would even understand someone being frightened of ducks and trying to shoo them away from the immediate space.

Again fair enough to still think all of these are wrong but chasing a duck around a lake is completely different because there is no benefit to you except that you enjoy a living thing being scared of you.

GasPanic · 02/09/2024 09:54

Although I don't think kids chasing ducks is very nice, ducks have wings and can swim, and if they are annoyed enough then they will generally go somewhere else. Unless you are attacking the nests, and then you may get a nasty shock as they will probably come back at you.

I was walking around a lake the other day and some people were letting their young child get very close to a swan, which was probably interested in food. She wasn't chasing it, but getting very close to a bird of that size is inadvisable. They can do some damage.

I left them to it. Recreational Darwinism and all that.

Milsonophonia · 02/09/2024 09:53

This thread has made me smile because I actually had to chase my neighbours ducks back to their garden this morning. They were most aggrieved.

ilovesooty · 02/09/2024 09:53

Bubblesallaround · 02/09/2024 08:52

My 2 year old loves to chase birds at the park. Maybe I should stop him after this thread!?

Edited

Yes you should.

79pinkballoons · 02/09/2024 09:52

Not ok. I don't allow my children to be unkind to any living creature and I tell off other children for chasing birds if their own parents are shit.

Goldbar · 02/09/2024 09:51

I don't allow or encourage my children to chase animals, but I can't really get worked up about kids chasing pigeons in the playground tbh. It's a fenced area and the pigeons are free to leave if they don't like it.

What usually happens is this -

  • Small toddler chases pigeon.
  • Pigeon flies out of the playground.
  • Small toddler stops, looking disappointed.
  • Pigeon flies back, within toddler's eye line.
  • Small toddler starts chasing pigeon again.

If I didn't know better, I'd say that the pigeon was deliberately baiting the toddler.

As for seagulls, they are absolute arseholes! I wouldn't let my DC chase them for safely reasons - they're mean bastards - but I'm certainly not shedding any tears if anyone else gives them what for. This summer alone, we've lost a cake, two Cornish pasties and a croissant to the buggers and they've terrified my toddler on at least two occasions. If they weren't protected, I'd probably be investing in a sling-shot myself!

RedHelenB · 02/09/2024 09:49

CoffeeGood · 02/09/2024 09:00

For those who think it's okay to chase wildlife, please could you answer - Why is okay to scare a sentient creature? Do you have children? A dog? A cat? Can I come round and chase after them until their hearts are racing and they are terrified? How about your mum (or pick any other relative or friend you care about)? Are they fair game? I'll wear a mask and carry a machete just for fun too...

You may say that's just ridiculous and over the top and obviously not okay. But would your kids / relative understand I was just having a bit of fun and don't actually want to harm them if I appeared out of the blue and ran at them waving my machete? Same kind of terror for ducks and pigeons, they don't understand it's "just" a kid having fun, something 20 times their size is running at them. They have feelings just like humans do, just because they can't express their terror does not make it okay. At all.

That's where you're wrong, animals don't have feelings just like humans do. Still don't think chasing pigeons/ ducks should be encouraged but it's not quite the same as chasing a human with a machte.

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