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Am I controlling or is it my DH?

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Mill8909 · 01/09/2024 21:19

My DH often speaks of one women at work - they are equals. Plus, I usually walk on him at home when he’s been chatting to her for ages. It does sound work-related, but I sometimes overheard something more personal. He talked to her about being stressed - waking up at 3:30 am. I told him to cut it out, and he did to please me, but he’s unhappy. He said the women at work is a good colleague and a great source of support for him at work. He’s now avoiding her, and he’s moaning about being unhappy. I haven’t met her, but when I visited at work, I saw one attractive woman- he later confirmed that’s her. He’s not cheating - he never goes out, doesn’t travel for work, and comes home straight after work, but this closeness with her annoys me. She’s now moving over to his department-same seniority as him and he’s encouraging her to move…Am I being weird?

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LiveLoveFuckEmAll · 08/09/2024 18:34

They are way to familiar

This is how my husband and I started, we would talk about shit work, our lives, our partners, children, being unhappy, we knew each other for 10 years as passing shifts.

We started working together on the same team, would chat for hours together, we started messaging outside work, phone calls, I relied on him and him me, our already unhappy marriages broke down, I left my husband and divorced.

We carried on chatting and he left his wife, we are now married.

But when you move your emotional connection from your husband/wife/partner to someone else then your in trouble.

twinmummystarz · 08/09/2024 18:22

Don’t you just want your DH to be happy at work so he can be happier at home?

Charlotte244 · 06/09/2024 19:19

I am good friends with a couple of male colleagues and we often talk about our personal lives. There is absolutely nothing untoward going on and never would be. I find the whole ‘men can’t be friends with women’ thing to be a ridiculous notion pedalled by overly jealous people!

KmcK87 · 06/09/2024 11:40

Emotional affairs are a thing and your gut is clearly picking up on something here. Can’t wait until we get passed the stage of constantly calling other women insecure and paranoid, if we’re being completely honest how often has a woman’s gut instinct ever been wrong?

CosyLemur · 06/09/2024 06:48

Mill8909 · 05/09/2024 19:39

And to be clear, I do listen to him. But not every day, all day. It’s non-stop! He can’t change his job. He won’t make that amount of money anywhere else. We have two kids in a private school. He’s too emotionally attached to her.

If you don't want him talking to others, but you also don't want to listen when he needs to talk - regardless of whether it's all the time or not what do you want him to do?
You won't let him change jobs because you want your kids in private school.

I'm guessing you want him to have a mental breakdown or worse. There's a reason why family men are more likely to commit suicide than other sections of society.

SweetnsourNZ · 06/09/2024 00:20

I personally think an emotional affair is when you are sharing personal problems with someone instead of your partner, or even complaining or breaking marital confidences. Otherwise it's just work friendship. The line can get blurry sometimes though I suppose.

SweetnsourNZ · 06/09/2024 00:14

Hey op. That's a good point. Sounds like after 3 years they just know each other enough for general chat and moans like most colleagues. Just wondering where you are in your life, and maybe you are feeling a little low in the self esteem, especially if you are maybe busy with young children. Happens to a lot of us.

Mill8909 · 05/09/2024 21:04

UhHuhHuH · 05/09/2024 20:41

There’s some major issues here.

One is that he is in a job he hates and can’t leave because you have 2 kids in private school.

There is way more to unpick than what he’s saying to her and you know it.

What do you mean? He’s the one that wants the kids in a private school

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UhHuhHuH · 05/09/2024 20:41

There’s some major issues here.

One is that he is in a job he hates and can’t leave because you have 2 kids in private school.

There is way more to unpick than what he’s saying to her and you know it.

Mill8909 · 05/09/2024 19:39

And to be clear, I do listen to him. But not every day, all day. It’s non-stop! He can’t change his job. He won’t make that amount of money anywhere else. We have two kids in a private school. He’s too emotionally attached to her.

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Mill8909 · 05/09/2024 19:33

mummaclaire · 05/09/2024 19:29

Hell no! Thats not normal at all in my opinion

Sorry, is this normal part by me was by me. As in disbelief.
Is it acceptable to call your married work colleague and say “I am calling you at the end of the day to cheer myself up. I hope you feel the same.”.

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mummaclaire · 05/09/2024 19:29

Mill8909 · 05/09/2024 19:27

So yesterday, I overheard him saying to her, "I am calling at the end of the day to cheer myself up by talking to you. I hope you feel the same. Is this normal!?"

Hell no! Thats not normal at all in my opinion

Mill8909 · 05/09/2024 19:27

So yesterday, I overheard him saying to her, "I am calling at the end of the day to cheer myself up by talking to you. I hope you feel the same. Is this normal!?"

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Noglitterallowed · 05/09/2024 17:46

Would you be so worried if it was a male colleague? If not then then there’s no issue if you trust him

Kosenrufugirl · 05/09/2024 10:14

Mill8909 · 01/09/2024 21:47

A family day at work around Christmas. Nothing unusual.
He’s unhappy at work - a terrible workplace, and she came three years ago. Due to Covid/hybrid work, he hasn’t been at the office much - 2 days a week. But it sounds like they are offloading to each other about work stress. I do listen to him, but I have my limits. They are messaging and calling each other for support.
He isn’t sneaking off or calling her over weekends - it feels like he needs her to deal with the stress of that place. So now, he has nobody there to talk to about it, and he is unhappy.

This is how affairs start. He is unaware of falling into an age old trap. I would be very concerned. I would make sure to have a super sexy underwear

FeedingThem · 05/09/2024 10:09

heartofsilver · 01/09/2024 22:10

You can't tell him who he can talk to but you can set your own boundaries and say you will not be in a marriage with someone who disrespects you and shares a closeness with another woman which you are uncomfortable with.
Most dh wouldn't in the first place because they wouldn't want to make you uncomfortable and would see it as inappropriate but then if your dh doesn't put your feelings before another woman you have some thinking to do, she's coming between you and he's not putting his marriage first.
How would he feel if you grew close to another man?

You get that op doesn't want to listen to him right? And now he's not allowed to offload to someone else because seeking the emotional support she won't give is apparently disrespectful? And we wonder why male suicide rates are so high

FeedingThem · 05/09/2024 10:07

Mill8909 · 01/09/2024 22:09

I am now thinking if nothing happened in 3 years, what could ever happen… I don’t know. He was much happier when chatting to her as frankly I have had enough of listening about his workplace.
She’s younger from what I gather but not too much younger than him plus they are of the same seniority. When I saw her in the office - she looked very elegant and conservatively dressed - she looked very beautiful- one of those women who doesn’t need much make up….

So you don't want to support him, and no one else is allowed? Or only ugly women / other men?

Hereforaglance · 05/09/2024 09:41

Are you aloud male friends
Are you aloud to work with other males
Are you aloud to speak to other males
If the answer is yes to all three then you are being controlling and abusive by not allowing your husband to work with females be friendly with females and chat to females you would rather him be miserable a'd only talk to a'd spend time with you while you do exactly as you please regardless

hangingonfordearlife1 · 05/09/2024 09:11

i have a very close male work friend. my husband doesn't have any issues with it we know each others partners and children. it's just work

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 05/09/2024 09:02

He talked to her about being stressed - waking up at 3:30 am. I told him to cut it out

Yes I think this is controlling. Plenty of colleagues vent to each other about being stressed.

user1492757084 · 05/09/2024 08:51

Don't add to your DH's work woes. He's not a cheater.

It's so terrible that your DH has a bad environment at worrk.
How stressful for him every day.

I would be advising him to brain storm about what he can do to change that.

Can you invite three of his work mates (the woman included) over to a BBQ at your place where they can try to list positive changes they could put in place to improve their work situation? Would going bowling every fortnight together with their spouses happy up the work dynamics?

Something has to change or your poor husband will be unhappy for years.
Can he find another job?

Rumshotsandrainshowers · 05/09/2024 08:44

Goodness me, there is a lot of very insecure and jealous people responding. And I’m not sure they are giving the balanced answers. Do you really think she’d shag your husband op. Is he all that? And do you think he’d cheat if she would and given a chance?

If the answer to the latter is yes, you’ve bigger problems and banning him speaking to her isn’t going to help.

if the answer to the former is no, she’d likely not snag him, you’ve bigger issues again, as it means you’re just jealous and insecure.

Cockerpooslave · 05/09/2024 08:39

To be honest @Mill8909 i would worry about an affair, but only because you aren’t supporting him rather than her “tempting” him away. He is clearly very unhappy at work but stays there for the money to keep the family going and you are telling him not to talk to you about work as you’re tired of hearing about it, that not very supportive. Let him have his friend, but do take a look at your relationship, I don’t believe if a marriage is strong it can be broken from the outside.

SpanielsSunflowersSand · 05/09/2024 08:01

Are you projecting your insecurities or has your husband crossed any boundaries you have?

We all have different boundaries so none of us can tell you if he’s crossed yours. You need to discuss your boundaries with your husband so that you are both clear on them. These cannot be boundaries you have but have not communicated with him.

What I would say, as someone who has a stressful job, by having one very good work friend, I have been able to navigate some tough work issues/ stress etc without losing the plot, and I have maintained my professionalism with everyone else. I would prefer not to come home and rant at my husband about work stuff when he won’t understand but also, that is our time, and I think if you remain in a negative headspace for too long, it becomes unhealthy. Me and my husband both discuss work for 10-15 minutes and then we move on with our evening.

You need to have a discussion with your husband about this, and explain how you feel but I wouldn’t be jumping to conclusions just because she is a female.

mummaclaire · 05/09/2024 07:53

My husband never went out etc but he’s been texting other women, I know it my heart nothing physical ever happened but it’s still feels to me on a par with it.

trust your instincts. If I had and checked his phone he may not have lost his job for it.