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CherryValley5 · 01/09/2024 20:15

Do you have it? Would you get it?

Having just received DD’s (eye watering) PHI renewal it struck me that 10 years ago it would not have even entered my mind to insure a teenager, nowadays it would feel like borderline neglect if I cancelled her policy and instead made her sit on endless NHS waiting lists. I am insured too through work and would never take another job that didn’t offer it. Just sitting here in disbelief that something I would’ve called a luxury not too long ago now feels like an essential for quality of life. It’s so depressing!

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MellersSmellers · 04/09/2024 22:12

No and No? Though I had the option through work.
I've concentrated on healthy diet and exercise instead.

EveryDayisFriday · 04/09/2024 22:08

Yes I have it through work as a benefit in kind. I've used it a few times for small treatments that the NHS don't even provide anymore like Chalazion removal. I'm really pleased I have it as I have a high cancer risk.

Didimum · 04/09/2024 21:58

CherryValley5 · 04/09/2024 21:15

What is remotely luxurious about paying for insurance when the only alternative is waiting years for often substandard care in a system that can no longer cope?

What’s luxurious about paying for private health insurance?? Erm … having the means to pay for private health insurance? Please get your head out your arse.

atotalshambles · 04/09/2024 21:27

Also, my friend had just joined BUPA when she discovered she had breast cancer. This sadly came back a couple of years later in Covid. She was still having regular checkups (her NHS appointments had been paused). They realised the cancer was back in lockdown. If she had only had her NHS checkups she would have been dead before she was seen again. Private healthcare literally saved her life.

atotalshambles · 04/09/2024 21:24

I had a knee problem. I tried the GP about 5 times and had an X ray. Apparently ,it was mild osteoarthritus and I was given a few physio exercises. It got much worse to the point that I couldn't sleep and couldn't really walk. I tried my GP about 4 times with no response and at the last request for an appointment they texted me to go to A and E. I remembered that I had been added to a family healthcare plan for BUPA. I had a consultant appointment within a week and I had some steriod injections and some one on one physio. It was not osteoarthritus but inflamation which was causing the pain. I cannot tell you the improvement in my quality of life. I was in so much pain and a simple injection and some exercises has fixed it. I think the NHS is amazing but can't deliver for the vast majority of people anymore. I think you are very much in the minority if you have a good GP these days.

Lizzie67384 · 04/09/2024 21:21

CherryValley5 · 04/09/2024 21:15

What is remotely luxurious about paying for insurance when the only alternative is waiting years for often substandard care in a system that can no longer cope?

It’s definitely not a luxury 🤣 why would you pay for health insurance if you didn’t need to? You’d be spending it on actually ‘luxurious’ items surely, like holidays etc?

CherryValley5 · 04/09/2024 21:15

Didimum · 04/09/2024 17:49

Indeed. And claiming it’s an ‘essential’ and not a luxury. Truly mind warping.

What is remotely luxurious about paying for insurance when the only alternative is waiting years for often substandard care in a system that can no longer cope?

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CherryValley5 · 04/09/2024 20:37

BeatenbySassafras · 04/09/2024 00:03

I live in a part of the UK where there are no private psychiatric hospitals. I'm not sure how insurance would work for patients detained under MHA, more so requiring PICU. Maybe you would get a rebate?

I agree that psychiatric hospitals are terrible in general whether NHS or block beds in Cygnet/Priory et al. Good to hear you had a positive inpatient experience. I imagine the other main advantage would be easier access to psychological therapies which are rationed heavily in NHS.

I’d assume that they would be able to organise a transfer to a private facility, albeit in a different part of the country. DD needed surgery requiring high dependency care post operatively, there are no private HDU services anywhere near us so they ended up arranging for her to have it done in London. They also paid out for our flights and accommodation.

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Lizzie67384 · 04/09/2024 20:07

Yeah I do through my work. Would never want to rely on NHS for anything other than emergency care

CherryValley5 · 04/09/2024 19:46

lifebyfaith · 04/09/2024 11:06

I have several chronic illnesses so I'm using to managing some level of pain daily. I guess I'm just used to coping. I think private insurance tends to attract people who worry about getting sick or dying. When you're already sick you just don't worry about it the same. At least in my experience.

DD has chronic pain due to spinal problems - insurance has been a godsend for her as it means that she has faster access to treatment, scans, surgery etc and in general more pain management options available to her. Being able to choose a specific consultant to see is also particularly beneficial in my opinion.

I definitely don’t worry about getting sick or dying to a large extent - it is just very comforting to know that should anything happen to either of us it will be sorted asap, rather than having to wait on the NHS.

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sunsetsandboardwalks · 04/09/2024 18:49

It's interesting that a lot of people say relying on the NHS is scary.

I spoke to a nurse on Wednesday last week about abnormal periods. Had bloods done on Monday, results back yesterday and a suspected PCOS diagnosis with a referral for an ultrasound today.

I don't think I'd achieve anything different by going privately. I wonder how much of it varies by area.

MillicentMama · 04/09/2024 18:44

Yes, wouldn’t be without it in the UK. Being 100% reliant on the NHS would be very scary imho.

Rocknrollstar · 04/09/2024 18:32

We all have health insurance that pays £200 pp for optician and also dentist every year. DS always claims for his children and reckons their policy pays for itself.

Toastcrumbsinsofa · 04/09/2024 18:26

No, I have various chronic health conditions and I don’t think going private would make any difference. I’ve had excellent treatment when I’ve needed it and regular monitoring at my local hospitals. When I needed surgery it had to be at an NHS hospital anyway because of my illness.

mitogoshi · 04/09/2024 18:04

No, never even considered it. If it came down to it we could afford to pay for the typical non urgent ops with long waiting lists eg hip, knee. Dp did have insurance but it only paid the bare minimum for cataract surgery, still cost £3800 to get the better lenses, would have been £5000 without insurance they said.

autumnbake · 04/09/2024 18:00

We have private healthcare via DH's work which I am really grateful for.

We've only really used it for the dentist/GP so far, but it's been invaluable to get a few same day GP appts when we've been quite ill - our NHS GP would be a 3 week wait.

Larowe · 04/09/2024 18:00

I have it via work. During the pandemic I was on the brink of suicide. GP referred me to CAHMs who never followed up. I was on my knees.

I ended up getting out patient treatment from a psychiatrist. Literally a life saver

I genuinely get upset thinking about how desperate people get treated in this country when their mental health deteriorates.

WalkersAntler · 04/09/2024 17:57

UhHuhHuH · 04/09/2024 17:44

“Often”?

I’ve been on lots of company schemes which have very generous cover. Many have moratoriums for pre existing conditions.

Apologies, I don’t have experience of lots of different policies. Sounds like I’ve just been lucky with the policies that my company and my partners company use.

tillyandmilly · 04/09/2024 17:55

Yes and I can’t really afford it but for my peace of mind I pay - I have had patients crying on the phone in pain having been on waiting lists for 10 months or and don’t want to be in that position with work!

Didimum · 04/09/2024 17:49

sunsetsandboardwalks · 04/09/2024 08:57

This thread is a prime example of how MN doesn't actually reflect real life Grin

People describing a lack of expensive, non-essential insurance as "borderline neglectful" is just bonkers.

I don't know a single person who has any kind of private health coverage with the exception of dental. They all just use the NHS and manage just fine.

Indeed. And claiming it’s an ‘essential’ and not a luxury. Truly mind warping.

UhHuhHuH · 04/09/2024 17:44

WalkersAntler · 03/09/2024 23:31

Company PMI policies often cover pre-existing conditions, whereas those taken out individually do not.
I was amazed that my company policy covered my serious MH condition which I have had for 30+ years.
I spent a month in a private psychiatric hospital recently which was covered by my policy and was a much more comfortable and less traumatic environment than my previous stay in an NHS psychiatric hospital.

“Often”?

I’ve been on lots of company schemes which have very generous cover. Many have moratoriums for pre existing conditions.

lifebyfaith · 04/09/2024 11:06

CherryValley5 · 03/09/2024 21:29

What about non life threatening conditions? Pain especially can have a massive effect on your quality of life, ability to hold down a job, socialise etc. Is saving a bit of money on insurance worth having to potentially wait years on a new hip for example?

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I have several chronic illnesses so I'm using to managing some level of pain daily. I guess I'm just used to coping. I think private insurance tends to attract people who worry about getting sick or dying. When you're already sick you just don't worry about it the same. At least in my experience.

Underlig · 04/09/2024 08:59

No, I don’t know anyone who has private health insurance. It’s really expensive and I’m not likely to be insurable - both DH and I have had cancer twice.

sunsetsandboardwalks · 04/09/2024 08:57

This thread is a prime example of how MN doesn't actually reflect real life Grin

People describing a lack of expensive, non-essential insurance as "borderline neglectful" is just bonkers.

I don't know a single person who has any kind of private health coverage with the exception of dental. They all just use the NHS and manage just fine.

Cyclebabble · 04/09/2024 08:49

Yes and I work in the industry. I think it is valuable, but remember there are many things where cover is limited- particularly anything chronic or where mental health issues are long term. So it is useful, but has limits.

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