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To wonder why the young people don't enjoy drinking alcohol

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OptimismvsRealism · 01/09/2024 15:58

I mean I know some people have always not really liked it but why as a generation do they feel differently about it?

(Come to mind because I've decided to go sober for a few weeks and it's NO FUN and I want to know their secret).

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sunsetsandboardwalks · 01/09/2024 18:09

roundsquares · 01/09/2024 18:05

The ones who do go out like drugs more.

The ones who don’t are chronically online and don’t have a need to drink as they don’t socialise in person with anyone in person.

You do realise you can go out without drinking alcohol or doing drugs?

Bars and restaurants (and even clubs!) sell plenty of soft drinks. You can even (gasp) do things that don't involve any of those things - like days out, shopping, hiking, going to the beach, going for coffee/cake...

HelloMiss · 01/09/2024 18:09

SugarHorseSpooks · 01/09/2024 17:19

society overall would be better if acholic beverages were none existent

Instead we have an epidemic of screen and sovisl media addicts....can't go anywhere without their phones

At least with alcohol it's over and done with in one hit

sunsetsandboardwalks · 01/09/2024 18:08

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 01/09/2024 17:32

I do think, like fake meat things for vegans, alcohol free versions of wine and beer just aren’t as nice (and often taste like cheap beer/wine- which I won’t drink).

so those who never drink - what would you have to accompany traditionally red wine paired meals? Things like steak, stews, roast dinner with red meat - sweet drinks always seem wrong with hearty, heavy meals. Is it just water on your table for dinner?

I drink whatever I fancy - coke, lemonade, sparkling water, fruit juice, mocktails?

I've never bought the idea that food needs to be "paired" with alcohol - it's just a (very successful) up-selling technique, lol. Like "flights of wine" etc.

WalkingonWheels · 01/09/2024 18:07

My oldest doesn't drink. He can't comprehend how people knowingly put toxins into their bodies. He's very health conscious, goes to the gym and tracks diet etc, and is also horrified by smoking/vaping/drugs.

I suppose he's grown up around people who don't see the need to consume alcohol, so he's used to it. I don't drink and haven't since I was pregnant with him. His grandparents don't drink. He hasn't had that culture of needing alcohol to have fun or enjoy food.

We watched a documentary last night about how much alcohol related incidents cost the NHS and public services. Billions a year. It was extremely sobering (pun unintended) and actually made me feel quite angry. Vulnerable people are losing healthcare, social services, educational resources etc because of the amount of money being spent on alcohol related incidents. I wish it could be banned.

HelloMiss · 01/09/2024 18:07

coxesorangepippin · 01/09/2024 17:05

It's like smoking, it's seen as old fashioned

Is it???

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 01/09/2024 18:07

roundsquares · 01/09/2024 18:05

The ones who do go out like drugs more.

The ones who don’t are chronically online and don’t have a need to drink as they don’t socialise in person with anyone in person.

They wouldn't need a drink if they socialised in person either. It's perfectly possible to socialise without alcohol in your hand.

Snippit · 01/09/2024 18:06

username44416 · 01/09/2024 16:03

They seem to prefer drugs: weed, pills, coke.

This

Cuwins · 01/09/2024 18:06

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 01/09/2024 17:32

I do think, like fake meat things for vegans, alcohol free versions of wine and beer just aren’t as nice (and often taste like cheap beer/wine- which I won’t drink).

so those who never drink - what would you have to accompany traditionally red wine paired meals? Things like steak, stews, roast dinner with red meat - sweet drinks always seem wrong with hearty, heavy meals. Is it just water on your table for dinner?

Same things I drink all the time: water or squash.
If I'm out for a meal then maybe a fizzy drink or very occasionally a fancy mocktail.
But I don't think about what I'm eating 'pairing' with what I'm drinking, would never occur to me. Just drink what I fancy.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 01/09/2024 18:05

OptimismvsRealism · 01/09/2024 17:56

Yeah for me a glass of wine is part of an excellent savoury meal. I'm never drunk and I don't get hangovers but I like everything about a glass of wine with food. It's delicious! To me, I get that not everyone likes it that's fine. But the earlier posters going on about how it's pathetic and my food must be disgusting are a bit odd. No need to get cranky if you're happy with your own choices.

I don't get wine cos I think it tastes awful. But what I do like is coffee. Not for the caffeine hit, not to wake me up. But I love a good coffee in my nice mug, and find the whole routine of making it and sitting with it lovely. When I was pregnant I went off everything, including coffee.

I missed it more than anything else. I would have been happy for most food to not come back to me, as long as coffee did. Thankfully, the day after she came out, DH brought me a coffee just how I like it and it was wonderful.

So I can kinda understand why you would miss something that is about enjoying the taste or the routine.

But you did say that no alcohol was "no fun" so you can see why people have said you might have a problem if you need it for fun.

roundsquares · 01/09/2024 18:05

The ones who do go out like drugs more.

The ones who don’t are chronically online and don’t have a need to drink as they don’t socialise in person with anyone in person.

usernother · 01/09/2024 18:05

Lots of young people still drink but it's so expensive to go for a night out in a city, I don't think they can afford to do it as often as I did when I was young (5 nights a week)

Choochoo21 · 01/09/2024 18:05

OptimismvsRealism · 01/09/2024 18:01

I don't think anyone here needs it to have fun. I just like it. It's like saying do you need chocolate to have fun??

No. I just like it.

It was you that said it was no fun not drinking…

(Come to mind because I've decided to go sober for a few weeks and it's NO FUN and I want to know their secret).

sunsetsandboardwalks · 01/09/2024 18:05

OptimismvsRealism · 01/09/2024 18:01

I don't think anyone here needs it to have fun. I just like it. It's like saying do you need chocolate to have fun??

No. I just like it.

Huh? Confused

You said yourself "I've decided to go sober for a few weeks and it's NO FUN".

So you clearly do relate it to fun?

halava · 01/09/2024 18:04

Important to note that there are zero calories in a joint of weed/snort of coke/tablets.

But....alcohol is full of them.

I'm sure you can figure it out.

Teacherprebaby · 01/09/2024 18:04

OptimismvsRealism · 01/09/2024 16:04

An evening meal is so crap without a glass

Why am I giving it up if I don't think it's that bad u ask. Well I'm wondering if it's messing with my hormones a bit so it's an experiment really. I believe a little is probably healthier than none.

A little is most certainly not better than none! But congrats for trying to convince yourself.

But seriously, give it time, amazing benefits.

BunnyLake · 01/09/2024 18:03

DreamTheMoors · 01/09/2024 17:50

Didn’t I just read an article that said alcohol is a lot more harmful for you than previously thought?
Even wine?

www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-alcohol-consumption-is-safe-for-our-health

Yes I recently heard that. I feel lucky really that I just don’t like alcohol very much. I was out with a couple of friends recently for lunch, they shared a bottle of wine and I had a mocktail. I never feel
pressurised to drink. My sons don’t seem that bothered by alcohol at all but I know my eldest did party hard at Uni.

Newsenmum · 01/09/2024 18:03

OptimismvsRealism · 01/09/2024 16:04

An evening meal is so crap without a glass

Why am I giving it up if I don't think it's that bad u ask. Well I'm wondering if it's messing with my hormones a bit so it's an experiment really. I believe a little is probably healthier than none.

Also if you miss it that much it might be time to cut down tbh!

SerendipityJane · 01/09/2024 18:03

Personally a glass of wine with a meal is the height of civilisation, after welfare, sanitation, housing, and all that boring stuff no one really wants.

wizzywig · 01/09/2024 18:02

Drugs and social media are their life

sunsetsandboardwalks · 01/09/2024 18:01

I don't really drink - I maybe have 4-5 drinks a year. I'm 35.

I enjoy the taste but not how it makes me feel afterwards, so I save it for special occasions and when I know I can "write off" the following day. Even one/two drinks impacts my sleep and makes me feel rubbish.

I've never linked alcohol to fun so can't really relate to that.

OptimismvsRealism · 01/09/2024 18:01

Choochoo21 · 01/09/2024 18:00

If you need alcohol go have fun then you’re drinking for the wrong reasons.

Don’t get me wrong I love a drink but I don’t need one to have fun.

Young people are much more health conscious these days.
Its also ridiculously expensive.

Even when I was young and drank a lot, I would binge on the weekend but I wouldn’t have it regularly like you do.

I definitely think having a regular drink with dinner or in the evening to relax, is more of an older person thing and always has been.

I don't think anyone here needs it to have fun. I just like it. It's like saying do you need chocolate to have fun??

No. I just like it.

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itsgettingweird · 01/09/2024 18:01

Most of the teens I know are athletes and that's why they don't drink!

It's not really a fun Friday night after you've swam 12k on a Friday, done an hours gym and then are back for training at 6am Saturday morning 😂

The ones I know at uni that have been athletes don't drink much but I suppose it's because they never really did or continue training.

The few I know that drink enjoy indulging massively 😂🤦‍♀️

Choochoo21 · 01/09/2024 18:00

If you need alcohol go have fun then you’re drinking for the wrong reasons.

Don’t get me wrong I love a drink but I don’t need one to have fun.

Young people are much more health conscious these days.
Its also ridiculously expensive.

Even when I was young and drank a lot, I would binge on the weekend but I wouldn’t have it regularly like you do.

I definitely think having a regular drink with dinner or in the evening to relax, is more of an older person thing and always has been.

BunnyLake · 01/09/2024 17:57

Treelichen · 01/09/2024 16:45

Research shows that alcohol is bad even in small amounts and this message is reaching younger people who are choosing to listen to it. Us older farts will still drink as someone once said red wine is good for you or alcohol helps relieve stress. etc, and we will hold on to those beliefs even in the face of strong evidence to the contrary.

The programme I watched recently said the glass of red wine is good for you was just a marketing ploy (rather like breakfast is the most important meal of the day, which was a marketing ploy by Kellogg’s in their earlier days, and it stuck.

It’s always a bit concerning if someone thinks things aren’t fun without alcohol. It’s probably a good thing to be cutting down OP, it certainly won’t hurt.

OptimismvsRealism · 01/09/2024 17:56

BunnyLake · 01/09/2024 17:46

Is it? No judgement but I’ve never thought of an evening meal to be crap without a drink. I don’t like wine to be fair so I’m probably in the minority.

My son said drinking out is really expensive. He was starting to resent the ‘it’s your round’ because he doesn’t really like alcohol that much either and it was costing a fortune. When I was young you could go to a club and have a few drinks every weekend, it didn’t break the bank.

I’ve become quite paranoid about the health of my liver since watching a programme that your liver condition can contribute to dementia. Having cared for my mum with it till she passed it’s something I take seriously.

Yeah for me a glass of wine is part of an excellent savoury meal. I'm never drunk and I don't get hangovers but I like everything about a glass of wine with food. It's delicious! To me, I get that not everyone likes it that's fine. But the earlier posters going on about how it's pathetic and my food must be disgusting are a bit odd. No need to get cranky if you're happy with your own choices.

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