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DP lied about job

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serenavanderwoodsenn · 31/08/2024 20:44

DP and I have had a rocky 12 months. His behaviour became unrecognisable as the industry he worked in has an awful culture with drinking after work with colleagues, cheating being rife within staff, there was constant lying that he had gone home (we don’t live together) after work when he wasn’t etc

ultimately, I ended the relationship earlier this year and I was admittedly devastated. We spent some time apart when he came back to support me through a traumatic event. I said I would only try again if he left that industry and it was his choice to make. He left the job and had a few weeks unemployed.

About 5/6 weeks ago he told me he’d found a job (completely different industry), did the interviews and got it. He’s been shifts since however I’ve found out this week he’s been working in the same industry. I was obviously livid as he cannot work in that industry without being sucked into the culture, that’s just his personality. He says he lied because I’d have left him if he didn’t. He wants to make us work. But AIBU to think this was the last shred of trust and he’s broken it? He’s trying to gaslight me that it’s not a big deal As he was earning money for us and I’m doubting myself.

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Life2Short4Nonsense · 01/09/2024 08:15

Viviennemary · 01/09/2024 08:06

You shouldn't have blackmailed somebody into changing jobs. It's no fun being unemployed. He lied because you were controlling.

Neither of them have good boundaries or standards. They both could have acted like adults and walked away from the relationship, but neither did. One made demands and the other pretended to agree. Very unhealthy basis for a relationship.

However, it doesn't meet the definition of blackmail:

"Extortion of money or something else of value from a person by the threat of exposing a criminal act or discreditable information."

RampantIvy · 01/09/2024 08:13

wouldn’t any of you want to get somebody you loved out of that environment?

I would remove myself from his environment for ever.

Raise your bar, dump him and move on.

Cosycover · 01/09/2024 08:11

You will get no good advice now OP until you say the industry. Don't know why you are being so elusive about it. But the more you ignore the more we want to know.

This is a guessing thread now. Just bloody say it.

Wickedstepsister · 01/09/2024 08:08

Army? That’s the only job where I can see a lifestyle and career blended in this way.

In any case, having standards would be leaving him to it and moving on with your life. A relationship with conditions is controlling and shows lack of trust, do you really want to waste your time/bring up a family with a man you do not trust? Doesn’t sound like a happy life for anyone involved.

Teasgonecoldagain · 01/09/2024 08:07

Ponoka7 · 01/09/2024 01:56

It also sounds like some finance roles. The high end of the finance industry has nearly caused the death of some people I know and nearly all their marriages have ended.

This was my first thought too, sounds very Wolf of Wall Street

Viviennemary · 01/09/2024 08:06

You shouldn't have blackmailed somebody into changing jobs. It's no fun being unemployed. He lied because you were controlling.

User364837 · 01/09/2024 08:06

I think you were right the first time when you ended it and you need to stick to that.
youre right it was wrong of him to pretend he had changed the type of job when he hasn’t.
but I do think he’s the problem rather than his industry.

Ihavenoclu · 01/09/2024 08:01

You and your boyfriend are not compatible. It is as simple as that really. Don't waste your life trying to change him. A leopard does not change its spots.

Zanatdy · 01/09/2024 08:00

serenavanderwoodsenn · 01/09/2024 01:24

Genuinely a bit confused about some of the replies saying I’m controlling.

I was cheated on and lied to - I ended the relationship.
He wanted to come back - I say I’m not getting in a relationship again when he’s still working with the people he drank and cheated with as we couldn’t make a fresh start if he was still around all that.

I didn’t realise having standards was now controlling.

You can’t make someone leave a job / industry. That’s got to be his choice. It is controlling to tell him where he can and can’t work. But we aren’t saying you should put up with that, but that you should end the relationship if you’re not happy with that. That’s your standard and he can’t meet it, so what’s the point in continuing. End the relationship for good as things won’t change.

Life2Short4Nonsense · 01/09/2024 07:59

serenavanderwoodsenn · 01/09/2024 01:24

Genuinely a bit confused about some of the replies saying I’m controlling.

I was cheated on and lied to - I ended the relationship.
He wanted to come back - I say I’m not getting in a relationship again when he’s still working with the people he drank and cheated with as we couldn’t make a fresh start if he was still around all that.

I didn’t realise having standards was now controlling.

OP, you are confusing "having standards" with trying to change/fix someone. Having standards means that you have firm boundaries, walk away from a bad situation and you never go back.

Only he can change his situation. At best you can help him, but only if he does the work and wants your help. He wants to eat his cake and have it too. He does not want to change and shows you disrespect by lying to you so he gets to keep you around.

You say have standards, but you know that he is messing you around and you are willing to let him. These two things are mutually exclusive.

EnterFunnyNameHere · 01/09/2024 07:58

LifeExperience · 01/09/2024 01:31

He's a drinking, drugging, lying cheater. Why on earth are you with him?

^this.

A person is not going to start doing those things because of work culture unless they want to do them anyway. Peer pressure is a real thing, but if someone really doesn't want to drink/take drugs/lie they won't. The job is a red herring.

Demonhunter · 01/09/2024 07:53

What industry has this as criteria attached?

When my DP has been away for long periods on film location, this kind of behaviour isn't expected or rife, exactly the same with his friends experiences, whether they're in front or behind the camera.

Why would you even bother staying with someone who cheats when you have no ties with him to keep you around, no house with him, no kids, no joint financial ties etc. Those are the only understandable reasons for having to assess a relationship with a cheater and not just walking away.

Devilsadvocat · 01/09/2024 07:46

I think you should just walk away. You carried on without him you can do that again. Find someone you can tŕust and who loves you. You sound very vulnerable because of your bad luck during covid and having to live with your parents because you lost your home, take a breath and look after yourself you dont need the extra worry of not trusting your boyfriend. Good luck to you.

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 01/09/2024 07:46

MummyJ36 · 01/09/2024 07:36

Did he cheat on you OP? Like with another person? If so I don’t think it’s the industry that’s the problem.

How else do you cheat?

Everyone can cheat in any job but in some industries it happens more than in others and cheating is much more open where everyone knows.

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 01/09/2024 07:44

serenavanderwoodsenn · 01/09/2024 01:24

Genuinely a bit confused about some of the replies saying I’m controlling.

I was cheated on and lied to - I ended the relationship.
He wanted to come back - I say I’m not getting in a relationship again when he’s still working with the people he drank and cheated with as we couldn’t make a fresh start if he was still around all that.

I didn’t realise having standards was now controlling.

You are not controlling and people saying that are absolute nutcases.

Imagine he's working in entertainment industry maybe? Shit salaries but a big party lifestyle.

You need to leave him, all the stuff he has done before and clearly not about to change.

ChristmasFluff · 01/09/2024 07:44

You were cheated on and lied to - and now you are surprised he is lying to you. Will you be surprised when he cheats again too?

It's not 'controlling' to have conditions on returning to a relationship, to enable a cheater to rebuild trust. But if you genuinely have standards, this is the point where you walk away as he has broken trust again.

Booundaries are things you keep in place by your own actions, not by trying to force another person to behave in the way you want. At the moment, you are trying to persuade a burglar to not steal from you. If you are serious about your standards and boundaries, you'd lock the door and secure your gates - walk away and go no contact.

ICanBuyMyselfFlowersICanWriteMyNameInTheSand · 01/09/2024 07:43

wouldn’t any of you want to get somebody you loved out of that environment ?

No, I'd just leave him. I think you have a false sense of control. You can't control his lifestyle but you can control who you are with.

MummyJ36 · 01/09/2024 07:36

Did he cheat on you OP? Like with another person? If so I don’t think it’s the industry that’s the problem.

EI12 · 01/09/2024 07:32

Never heard of an industry that forces people to drink and cheat. You know it yourself. It is on par with a five-year old saying 'he/she made me do this', or 'look what you made me do!' Let us ban knives because of knife crime? He is an unreliable liar, whatever 'industry' he works in and you know it.

Isometimeswonder · 01/09/2024 07:32

He cheated on you, probably more than once by your posts.
Why taf do you want him?

hdw05081991 · 01/09/2024 07:30

Macadamia20 · 31/08/2024 22:02

Sounds like recruitment industry!

This is the exact problem I had with my ex! (And in fact I wrote a post about his behaviour within his industry several years ago where we stayed together but eventually I broke up with him due to his drinking!) He worked in recruitment in the city and everything revolved around ‘client drinks’ and ‘I’m working, you just don’t understand.’

Absolutely nothing changed, they’re all the same. He would go to strip clubs and lie about it. Drug use was rife.

he used to say I didn’t understand, but the only thing I understood is we both worked full time but I used to end my working day picking up our son from nursery, cook dinner, clean, do the grocery shop etc and he just wouldn’t return home. I couldn’t live like that and I’ve had the best almost 3 years since ending it. OP, you seem to have your head screwed on straight and have already made the right decision. Good luck!

Channellingsophistication · 01/09/2024 07:27

If he has cheated better to end relationship for good. That’s no basis for future happiness.

EmoIsntDead · 01/09/2024 07:25

serenavanderwoodsenn · 01/09/2024 01:24

Genuinely a bit confused about some of the replies saying I’m controlling.

I was cheated on and lied to - I ended the relationship.
He wanted to come back - I say I’m not getting in a relationship again when he’s still working with the people he drank and cheated with as we couldn’t make a fresh start if he was still around all that.

I didn’t realise having standards was now controlling.

If you had standards you wouldn’t have taken him back.

Alli88 · 01/09/2024 07:05

serenavanderwoodsenn · 31/08/2024 21:21

For clarification, the industry includes late nights and going to bars immediately after work. Drinking and doing drugs is almost a daily occurrence and then going to work on about 4 hours sleep, never having time to do any adult things because they just work, drink, get a little sleep and then go right to it the next day. It was killing him doing that. And that was before the lying and cheating.

wouldn’t any of you want to get somebody you loved out of that environment ?

Not it it's work they enjoyed and we're qualified to do. You seem to be making lots of assumptions when you don't work in the industry. Did you expect him to sit for however long unemployed with no income and then go into something else at probably entry level just to please you especially given that you're still struggling to get back on your feet? Can't blame the bloke for lying.

StolenChanel · 01/09/2024 07:01

End it. You don’t trust him anyway and now he’s lied about the very thing you have issues with. It will never work.