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I can’t stand living with my mother in law anymore!

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plhelm · 31/08/2024 10:32

Hello, hope someone can help me find some perspective. I just feel totally lost and sad at the moment. I’ve NC as I don’t want to be outed.

Being from an Asian background, when I got married 17 years ago I was expected to live with the in laws. It took a lot of adjusting but I was able to do it has I was younger. Now I’m older, I feel like I want to be in control of my life and not be told off like a little girl all the time. My mother in law in very domineering and must have the last word. I get told off constantly. Either it’s the way I’m looking after the children, or how I’ve cooked a meal.

I have very limited say in anything. I’ve spoken to my husband and he says that he won’t move out and if I do, it’ll mean a divorce. He said I knew the situation when I married him. Tbh the relationship isn’t great anyway and I feel like a single mum anyway.

I just need to escape. The problem is my finances aren’t great. It’s all tangled up with the household finances which my MIL has ultimate control over.

The kids go to school in a nearby town, the houses are ridiculously expensive, I won’t be able to afford even on my full time salary.

I’m worried if I leave, that my husband will get the kids, because he’s in a better financial position. My family lives in another part of the country and won’t be able to help. I just don’t know where to start.

Thank you for reading!

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GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 01/09/2024 17:55

Could you get your jewellery back under the guise of taking it to be cleaned or repaired or stones checked incase anything is loose? Then 'forget' to collect it to explain not giving it back to H or MIL or be 'surprised' when the jewellers tell you what it's worth and present it as a done deal that you've put it in a safe deposit box at the bank because you're worried about it - maybe say a colleague has been burgled?

Do you have anywhere or anyone you can trust to keep your jewellery safe? You could buy a small safe so it's secure if you've got a family member or good friend that you absolutely trust. I think actual safety deposit boxes are quite expensive so probably not viable unless only needed for a short period.

Maxstress3 · 01/09/2024 17:35

Hi OP we often hear of these stories from people getting stuck in a family with controlling emotionally draining in laws. What you need to remember is that this will be affecting your children as they will be seeing the affect it is having on you. Please be strong and get some advise from organisations as there are alot of agencies willing to help. Karma nirvana being one

EuclidianGeometryFan · 01/09/2024 11:40

Move out, when you are ready, even if it is in a few years time. Don't get divorced unless there is a pressing legal reason to do so - you can separate your daily finances without getting divorced. The reason I say this is because if MIL owns half the house, it will presumably go to your DH when she passes on (if not gone on care home fees).
Then you divorce him when he owns the whole house, and take the value of half the house for yourself.

You will definitely need to move out if you want to avoid being MIL carer.

In the meantime, you have to detach emotionally. Stop caring if MIL is giving you the silent treatment - think of it as a welcome break from her voice.
Stop caring if there is a weird atmosphere in the home or if they are talking about you. You have to decide you will stop letting their moods affect you.
Easier said than done, but that is the only way to protect yourself until you leave.

bee2806 · 31/08/2024 21:23

Yes, my husband and his family are all ignoring me too. It is very difficult living under the same roof but I own a share in this house so do not want to leave until I get it. I try and keep myself busy with work and getting out the house. I have private messaged you.

Stirmish · 31/08/2024 21:13

plhelm · 31/08/2024 11:09

Yes I've lived with them for the past 17 years. I think everyone's right, I need to start saving up. I don't even know how much I would need to start up again.

I just feel suffocated especially by the hypocrisy as my SIL- my husband's sister, has her own house and her own freedom. She wasn't expected to live with her in laws but I am- she comes and goes as she likes.

I just feel like I don't have a home, a space to feel safe. To avoid confrontation, I stay in my room but I can hear my MIL complaining about me.

I just want to be able to live my life and give my children a good life.

This is very unfair

Why on earth does your husband not want to move into his own place with you

plhelm · 31/08/2024 20:47

bee2806 · 31/08/2024 19:27

I could have written this post. Going through the exact same thing. We are at the stage where I have said I need my own space and he has told me he is not leaving his family. So I have applied for divorce which has caused everyone to stop talking to me. I was hoping that would make him understand that all I am asking for is some space but if not then I can do this without him. Like you, I just want to live my life the way I want and dreamt of. If you need someone to talk to I am here.

I'm so sorry you're going through the same thing. My MIL is giving me the silent treatment at the moment. It's so awkward being at home. My husband is being weird with me too. I wonder what I'm being accused of behind my back.

My plan is find somewhere to live before I even mention divorce as it will be unbearable living here. Going to save as much as I can.

It's just daunting because I've not even had my own car let alone a house.

They've always said, you don't need this and that. You can drive one of our cars.

My parents will not be supportive unfortunately.

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Flibflobflibflob · 31/08/2024 20:15

I’m sorry OP this is utterly shit, no-one should live like this. As an asian woman I need you to know, It is also not normal, don’t let them gaslight you into thinking this is normal. Most don’t live like this (your SIL being a case in point).

It’s easy to think you’ll be seen as the bad guy, but tell any woman and most men that this is how you are treated most would be horrified. Don’t at any point think there is something wrong with you, you are not being too sensitive, this is control and financial abuse. Come back to this thread as much as you want and there will be a bunch of us cheering you on.

Flibflobflibflob · 31/08/2024 20:09

Who owns the house? Are your family aware of the situation too?

OrangeSlices998 · 31/08/2024 20:03

plhelm · 31/08/2024 19:13

Thank you for all your advice. It's been very useful. I need to figure out if what I'm going through is abuse or just how it is. Luckily money hasn't been a big issue for me as I've worked and my husband works, but we both have to be very transparent to my MIL where our money goes.

I just wish I could turn back the hands of time, and never have agreed to living with my in laws. I know it has its benefits especially when it comes to the kids, but it has been a very suffocating life.

I would be nice to be able to decorate the house how I would like, it would be nice to sleep in or leave a pot in the sink unwashed without the constant moaning.

Again thank you for all your replies.

Forgive me for my cultural ignorance but what would happen if you said no to MIL about finances?

BruFord · 31/08/2024 20:02

Excellent advice @wordler.

wordler · 31/08/2024 19:53

Start a long term plan to move out - at this point keep the option open for it to be with your husband but plan assuming he’s not coming and also could be hostile about it.

Just having a specific plan and steps will make things feel a little better and each small step you take towards your own control of things will feel better and help you stick out a long term plan.

If you could stand the idea of a five year plan then your youngest will be 16 by then and the two oldest adults. Even if you can only take it for another three years then the two younger children will be old enough to have their say in any custody dispute.

Open your own accounts that only you have access to - you need your own savings and own checking account. You can start slowly - move savings and small amounts there first, or immediately get your wages paid to an account only you have access to - and then direct debit any money over to current household needs.

Start thinking strategically about your career and how it will fit your future - promotion, changing companies who have offices in different parts of the country depending on where you ultimately might like to move to when the kids have left home.

starlight48 · 31/08/2024 19:50

Well done everyone 👏 👍 who is contemplating an enormous life changing step
A big hurdle for separating couples is child contact
An abusive partner will continue to abuse, surveill and control through the children
Find out what child contact looks like for children under 12.....The Courts will give your new address to the abuser to enforce child access and custody in some cases, so please stay safe and find out your options first.
Post separation abuse presents a risk to many women and their children
Contact AWRC, IKRWO and other specialist domestic abus charity helplines for advice on leaving safely.
Don't Use the family laptop without clearing the cache or history!!!!!!

BruFord · 31/08/2024 19:27

Just sending you 💐 OP. You’ve had some good advice on this thread. It may take you a while to figure out your next steps, but you’ll get there.

Given your children’s ages, I wouldn’t worry too much about custody. I imagine you’ll take things slowly to be in the best position, so your youngest may be a teenager when you move out. They’ll be old enough to spend time with you independently.

Butterflyfern · 31/08/2024 19:27

plhelm · 31/08/2024 19:14

I'm not threatened physically at all btw. I don't know, maybe I'm being too sensitive...

You are absolutely not being too sensitive.

You have no physical or financial freedom. That is abusive. Sounds potentially like a coercive relationships with both your DH and MIL. Coercive control is illegal in the UK. Remember that when you feel like you're overreacting.

Why shouldn't you be able to live in a way that makes you happy?

bee2806 · 31/08/2024 19:27

I could have written this post. Going through the exact same thing. We are at the stage where I have said I need my own space and he has told me he is not leaving his family. So I have applied for divorce which has caused everyone to stop talking to me. I was hoping that would make him understand that all I am asking for is some space but if not then I can do this without him. Like you, I just want to live my life the way I want and dreamt of. If you need someone to talk to I am here.

Flibflobflibflob · 31/08/2024 19:23

I was going to ask what would happen if you just have your wages deposited in your own account? And just refuse to let anyone see it?

Aquamarine1029 · 31/08/2024 19:16

He has access to all my banking accounts and I'm worried that he'll find out what I'm doing if I try and put money to one side.

Op, set up your own account and have all of your wages direct deposited into it. Your husband can't prevent you from doing this, so do so right away.

plhelm · 31/08/2024 19:14

I'm not threatened physically at all btw. I don't know, maybe I'm being too sensitive...

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plhelm · 31/08/2024 19:13

Thank you for all your advice. It's been very useful. I need to figure out if what I'm going through is abuse or just how it is. Luckily money hasn't been a big issue for me as I've worked and my husband works, but we both have to be very transparent to my MIL where our money goes.

I just wish I could turn back the hands of time, and never have agreed to living with my in laws. I know it has its benefits especially when it comes to the kids, but it has been a very suffocating life.

I would be nice to be able to decorate the house how I would like, it would be nice to sleep in or leave a pot in the sink unwashed without the constant moaning.

Again thank you for all your replies.

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BreadInCaptivity · 31/08/2024 19:11

One small suggestion I read on another thread was when doing the weekly shop buy a gift card for the same shop (eg Tesco or similar) keep them safe and in a worst case situation you can secretly save some money to know you access easily and buy pretty much an essentials you need.

Cantalever · 31/08/2024 18:55

Lovelysummerdays · 31/08/2024 10:58

I’d absolutely start a rainy day fund. A good tip is to take get cash back when you shop. That way it just looks like spending. I’d be a bit careful about opening a bank account as it can get flagged up if anyone at the address is financially savvy.

OP could give her work address for a new bank account if necessary. There is no need whatever for DH to have access to HER bank accounts, only if one of them is joint. As for putting up with it for13 years as someone suggested - why should OP give up a chunk of her life to this rubbish? Make whatever changes you can to your life OP. Would Womens Aid be able to help with advice re. accommodation?

Ella31 · 31/08/2024 18:35

I'm not from a cultural background so I won't pretend to understand, but it's plain to see that half of the posters here don't seem to recognise that you moving money would not be a safe thing to do if you got caught. You need sound advice. Definitely get onto those aid groups that deal specifically with cultural abuse. You need people who understand these dynamics and please ignore those who told you to get a hobby or stick it out because of the children. My god......

SmudgeButt · 31/08/2024 17:32

Look for things at work that go through payroll but that you have control over.

Your work pension - max your contributions to it. Sharesave or share purchase schemes - have the payouts paid to another account that only you have access to.

As for your wedding jewellery - well tell hubby you want to show it off to a friend who wasn't at the wedding as the photos don't do it justice. Don't give it back to him.

Cornflakelover · 31/08/2024 17:21

Do you do shopping in the big stores
if so when you do the weekly shop get cash back
20 a week is 1k a year
40 is 2k a year
keep the cash safe maybe in a locker at work

suits me accounts will do accounts for people with no fixed address they just want ID like a passport
so you could use your work address for the debit
card to be sent to

it also won’t show up on your credit file as it’s a bank account it’s a pre paid card you can top up in cash at any shop that accept Paypoint

or go to the post office and get a post office travel card
they give you the card straight away
you need ID passport / driving licence
min top up is £50 and just tell them you want it in pounds it will cost you £3 so 53 in total to get the card
you can top up in cash in at any post office
and the app is online

same for Asda travel card which you can buy in the shop and add cash to it

with these two there is no trace as nothing comes to your house no cards / letters or anything
and it won’t show on your credit file

good luck
it will take time
but you can do a little bit each week / month and have a plan

AnnieMcFanny · 31/08/2024 17:11

Op, you’ve had lots of very good advice so I’ll just wish you well and will you on to finding a way forward out of a very upsetting situation. 💐

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