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Why is 'Oasis warn against ticket resale' on BBC News, yet the Taliban banning women from TALKING outside, no?

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FloordrobeIsGoingToGetME · 31/08/2024 08:19

unless I've missed it?

BBC News, BBC Breakfast has had several segments dedicated to how to get Oasis tickets, on sale launched, warnings against resale.

In fact the BBC 1 current show has had at least 10 minutes dedicated to it right now.

Yet this absolute horror that women in Afghanistan are living, the erosion of their human rights, has not even attracted a minute of coverage?

www.theguardian.com/global-development/article/2024/aug/26/taliban-bar-on-afghan-women-speaking-in-public-un-afghanistan

Does anyone have insight into the reason for the press blackout - it is really just apathy or is there more to it?

And if like me, you care about this, is there anything that can be done to stand up for human rights here?

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Terryhalloffame · 31/08/2024 17:09

It’s not just sex apartheid in Afghanistan. Women have been silenced, imprisoned, cancelled in fact completely erased as people. This is far more extreme than race apartheid ever was. Women are being kept worse than slaves, worse than dogs. At least dogs can bark. It’s not just breaching their human rights, it’s deleting their existence as human beings. It’s so awful to comprehend, I agree with you OP why is the world not calling it out, where’s the pop songs, the demonstrations?

BrigadierEtienneGerard · 31/08/2024 16:06

Oasis reunion = man bites dog = news.

Taliban down on women = dog bites man = not news.

QED,

FloordrobeIsGoingToGetME · 31/08/2024 15:25

Werweisswohin · 31/08/2024 15:14

Both are being reported.
Both are news.
Denying people enjoyment in the UK won't stop the heinous things happening.
Stop virtue signalling.

Virtue signaling in what way, @Werweisswohin ?

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Spiderwmn · 31/08/2024 15:18

It’s like the Gaza conflict and the Russian invasion -terrible but unfixable -so they drop down the agenda

Werweisswohin · 31/08/2024 15:14

Both are being reported.
Both are news.
Denying people enjoyment in the UK won't stop the heinous things happening.
Stop virtue signalling.

FloordrobeIsGoingToGetME · 31/08/2024 15:11

AnywhereAnyoneAnyTime · 31/08/2024 14:34

I don’t think that anyone is disputing that the Taliban are beyond contempt.

But realistically there is nothing that can be done other than campaigning.

It’s not like Russia or South Africa where you can implement sanctions. Afghanistan don’t export anything we want, and we don’t have reason to do business with them.

But we are not even campaigning. Maybe people might campaign they were more aware of it.

Women are being stoned to death. Being publicly whipped. Not allowed to speak in public.

And the world seems silent about it.

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FloordrobeIsGoingToGetME · 31/08/2024 15:07

@ElleneAsanto

It's on my BBC News.

Either way - my point is - this is a massive human rights story and in my opinion, it's getting the airtime it deserves,

Why is 'Oasis warn against ticket resale' on BBC News, yet the Taliban banning women from TALKING outside, no?
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ElleneAsanto · 31/08/2024 14:59

FloordrobeIsGoingToGetME · 31/08/2024 13:18

Thanks for the comments, all.

I feel it's important to see this featured on BBC News as it's probably the most widely watched in the UK (I don't have metrics for that, just assuming).

Erosion of women's rights, world-wide, feels like an issue for us in the UK. I think I've seen the US abortion law changes featured on mainstream TV news, so why not this? This new horror in Afghanistan is something I think is very important to women everywhere, to emphasise just how precious - and potentially precarious - our rights are, and if we can help, even just with awareness, we should.

Just taking BBC Breakfast news, that must be, what, around15 hours a week of airtime? Surely there is opportunity to cover feel good news, local news AND examples like this?

Really the idea of ‘featured on BBC News’ is meaningless - there is no single entity called BBC News. There is no overall editorial strategy covering everything from news online (aimed at millennials and Gen Z who mostly access news on their phones) - to the Radio 4 twice daily analysis in Today or PM (a dwindling audience of boomer current affairs addicts) - and everything in between - BBC Breakfast, BBC 1 News, Newsnight, BBC News 24, etc.

There is no “most watched” - there’s ITN (who provide ITV and Channel 4 news), SkyNews, GBTV, random YouTube channels - all targeted at different audiences. The BBC has inherited the expectation as the “national broadcaster” that they can succeed in being all things to all people.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c97e668pdnwt

Logo for BBC News

Women's rights in Afghanistan - BBC News

All the latest content about Women's rights in Afghanistan from the BBC.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c97e668pdnwt

AnywhereAnyoneAnyTime · 31/08/2024 14:34

I don’t think that anyone is disputing that the Taliban are beyond contempt.

But realistically there is nothing that can be done other than campaigning.

It’s not like Russia or South Africa where you can implement sanctions. Afghanistan don’t export anything we want, and we don’t have reason to do business with them.

Trainstrike · 31/08/2024 14:20

The situation there since August 21st isn't just "typical" or "trivial" misogyny - it's women now being required to completely cover their faces and bodies and no being allowed to raise their voices or read aloud in public.

AnywhereAnyoneAnyTime · 31/08/2024 14:06

I think the way the Taliban operate is appalling, but the reality is that that is life in Afghanistan.

We can have an opinion on it that things should change, but it’s not up to us to enter other countries and dictate t them how they should live.

We wouldn’t welcome the Taliban coming into the uK and starting to demand that women stop being educated and working and talking, and as hard as it is that goes both ways.

Feeling one country has the right to enter another to force a culture/lifestyle has the ability to rapidly turn into a “be careful what you wish for” situation.

Hateam · 31/08/2024 13:55

Christ. No wonder women's rights are going backwards.

Meatwallet · 31/08/2024 13:49

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Hateam · 31/08/2024 13:48

DonnaBanana · 31/08/2024 13:22

I’m not really interested in trivial affairs in other countries so it seems fair enough. I don’t really care about traffic light timings in Paraguay or abortion rights in Hawaii either.

Thank you for proving my point.

Baital · 31/08/2024 13:47

As a citizen, voter and tax payer in the UK I believe it is my responsibility to do whatever I can to make life better for other women in the UK.

What I can do is limited because I am.just one person, but I hope that my contribution will add to that of many others, and we will gradually make progress.

I have no levers to influence what is happening in Afghanistan. I think the way women and girls are being treated is appalling, but given I have no influence over the situation, why would I want it to stay in the News for weeks on end?

Just as I have no influence over e.g. FGM in countries where that is practiced.

Edingril · 31/08/2024 13:37

Hateam · 31/08/2024 09:36

Sadly and depressingly- and the comments on this thread prove it-many women care more about Oasis than women's rights.

Maybe women are sick of other women complaining we are not being women right

Edingril · 31/08/2024 13:35

Yeah let's all hear more about all the murder and wars and throw some other atrocities in that other countries are doing to their people we don't want good or relevant to more of the British people so we all go 'aww how terrible' switch off we have done our bit now moving on

Let's suck all anything good in the news and throw it out the window

MrsTerryPratchett · 31/08/2024 13:31

DonnaBanana · 31/08/2024 13:22

I’m not really interested in trivial affairs in other countries so it seems fair enough. I don’t really care about traffic light timings in Paraguay or abortion rights in Hawaii either.

Trivial?

DonnaBanana · 31/08/2024 13:22

I’m not really interested in trivial affairs in other countries so it seems fair enough. I don’t really care about traffic light timings in Paraguay or abortion rights in Hawaii either.

MrsTerryPratchett · 31/08/2024 13:20

Middle East? Central Asia surely @daliesque

FloordrobeIsGoingToGetME · 31/08/2024 13:18

Thanks for the comments, all.

I feel it's important to see this featured on BBC News as it's probably the most widely watched in the UK (I don't have metrics for that, just assuming).

Erosion of women's rights, world-wide, feels like an issue for us in the UK. I think I've seen the US abortion law changes featured on mainstream TV news, so why not this? This new horror in Afghanistan is something I think is very important to women everywhere, to emphasise just how precious - and potentially precarious - our rights are, and if we can help, even just with awareness, we should.

Just taking BBC Breakfast news, that must be, what, around15 hours a week of airtime? Surely there is opportunity to cover feel good news, local news AND examples like this?

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Mynewsofa · 31/08/2024 11:48

Where are you OP? are you doing something else rather than updating this thread?

So you don't really care about Afghan women since something else is distracting you away from this thread?

I obviously don't mean that but you see how silly it is to suggest someones focus, the UKs focus or the BBCs focus being on something else means they don't care?

Or maybe people and even News outlets have a myriad of things to think about. care about, talk about and publish?

And one doesn't cancel out any others?

daliesque · 31/08/2024 11:46

Billyandharry · 31/08/2024 08:49

Very good question OP. Possibly because the world has gone completely mad?

And interfering in the Middle East never works out well for us.

SonicTheHodgeheg · 31/08/2024 11:44

People in Britain are talking about Oasis and clicks equal revenue. It’s going to be like the Taylor Swift concerts with daily updates once the actual concerts play together with “interest” pieces like people cosplaying the band or businesses cashing in with merch. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for a British broadcaster to focus on what British people are interested in. I think that the BBC shouldn’t be funded by tv license anyway so focusing on raising revenue is a good thing.

In order for the Taliban to become top story, they need to do something surprising like lift restrictions for women. People know that they are about the subjugation of women so aren’t shocked that they are going increasingly more extreme. It’s also not surprising that the media aren’t asking wtaf the point of the war was and to re-examine the shot show of the withdrawal onwards. What lessons should have been learned? Considering a possible Trump presidency what similarities are we likely to see in Ukraine?

I think that most people are savvy enough to know that you can’t rely on one news source and that if you want to keep up with the news then you need to watch/read several sources. These days It’s definitely not unusual to look up a story after someone irl or on social media bring it up rather than read the newspapers or watch the news on tv at least once a day.