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Dad says I’m overreacting about him holding mug of tea over baby?

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KellyJellyfish · 30/08/2024 19:51

First time Mum to a 7 month old, for the most part I think I’m fairly laid back (just that sort of person) and husband agrees. I go and visit my parents once a week and stay the night (at their request, so they can spend time with LO) also it’s nice to be around them and my younger sister who lives at home, plus husband gets a night to himself. We’ve been doing this for about 2 months now, I don’t feel as if I’m imposing as parents seem to bend over backwards to accommodate us (unprompted) and are upset if we miss a week.

However, recently tensions have been rising between me and my 70yr old Dad. Dad and I have always got on well but butted heads in a spirited way (debates about politics etc, but never arguments or anything that left a sour taste in anyone’s mouth, we both really enjoy long conversations and can talk about anything).

I guess Mum and Dad are fairly traditional in the sense that Dad was the breadwinner and Mum the main caregiver (she has always worked full time though, Dad is now retired). As such Dad was a bit clueless when it came to baby care whereas Mum jumped right in naturally. We’ve both been nothing but patient with him, but suffice to say he’s really only in it for the ‘fun Grandad’ side of things and will hand her to Mum or me if she needs a nappy change or feeding (bottle).

Something weird happened the last couple of visits that got me thinking. He’s just started bickering with me about things. Started with inconsequential things like TV shows we were both watching and details he misremembered but was adamant he was right and I was wrong (I dropped it as he’d just find out as the show progressed)

But recently it’s been more personal. He made a comment about how I shouldn’t complain so much because my husband won’t stand for it (implying he might walk out), no idea where that’s comes from as I don’t nag my husband and there’s no friction between us. Then last week he was being a bit daft with the baby (he can be a bit careless, jiggling her about after a feed, losing his balance and nearly dropping her once, not putting the break on the pram on a slope or right by a road and walking away, that sort of thing).

So what happened was she was on her playmat and he kneeled down to talk to her with a full mug of tea in hand, I was a little on guard but said nothing, the mug had brightly coloured animals on it and she took an interest in it, Dad noticed this so he held the mug out to her, her little hand about half an inch away from the mug reaching out. She’s at an age where she wants to grab and hold everything, she’s also in a ‘slapping’ phase and will hit objects and people, so I put 2 and 2 together and foresaw what might happen (all over Mum’s cream carpet no less). I was polite, no rude tone, I simply said ‘maybe not so close with the mug, Dad’ and he snapped back at me ‘you’re ALWAYS complaining, all you do is complain, the tea’s not even hot it’s only warm! I don’t know how your husband puts up with your constant complaining, you’re being completely ridiculous!’

I was completely taken aback by this and very annoyed, especially the comments about my husband, so I shot back that husband would be on my side if he was here. Dad then accused me of lying to my husband, said ‘of course he’s going to be on your side when you go home and lie that I had boiling hot tea!’ and he started doing an unpleasant impression of me speaking to my husband about how awful Dad is, he continued ‘it wouldn’t hurt her anyway, it’s just warm tea, she’d just get a bit wet!’ at this point it escalated into him shouting over me and me shouting back, I could see it was upsetting LO so told Dad to go away to end the interaction and he did. I tried to avoid him the rest of the evening and Mum drove us home instead of him a while later.

I was so turned around by the whole thing I started to doubt myself, was I one of those anxious helicopter Mums? Did I complain all the time? Was I being unfair to husband without even realising it?

I told husband what happened and asked him to give it to me straight, he told me a few things I should work on but he knows I’m already aware of (stuff like not sweating the small stuff and not getting bogged down in what all the baby books say etc) but he said that ultimately I’m fine, I don’t complain or nag and that he absolutely would have said something about the mug of tea if he’d been there, in fact he said he would have spoken up even if it was just a glass of water, because he too could connect the dots on what might happen if LO slapped the glass. He said my Dad’s comments were really strange and totally out of character.

I’m not sure what to do now. I don’t want to not visit my parents, but this behaviour cannot continue to escalate. Do I bring up what happened? Wait for the next incident? Involve Mum? I just feel pretty rubbish about the whole thing tbh. Any advice welcome.

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anareen · 30/08/2024 20:17

My first thought is he may be experiencing cognitive decline. That is concerning in itself but definitely with baby. I would keep a close eye if he is handling or around DD.

What a tough situation. I am so sorry. How do you think mum would react if you spoke to her and voiced your concerns. I wonder if she has noticed any change in behavior herself with him. I would think about maybe visiting for a few hours but not overnight anymore.

Psychologymam · 30/08/2024 20:16

You are totally in the right with hot drinks - shouldn’t be near small kids. Im pretty anxiously driven but my husband is quite relaxed but he switched to using travel mugs with lids all the time and ours are older. Scalding is horrible, why would you risk it.
strokes can lead to some frontal lobe damage and the irritability and unusual personality quirks could be linked - I’d check in with your mother and ask her to support him going to GP. It’s so tricky and I think you can be really empathetic but obviously baby safety comes first.

KellyJellyfish · 30/08/2024 20:15

TomatoSandwiches · 30/08/2024 20:03

YANBU

Did your mother not say anything about this?

Mum was out of the room but I could see she was in earshot in the hall, she hates confrontation though so I may struggle to address this with her, I’d have better luck with my adult sister who also lives there

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IntrepidCat · 30/08/2024 20:12

A head injury and stroke would certainly answer the change to his personality but unfortunately it’s likely to be permanent, he won’t realise it so won’t accept he is acting out of character, and he’s probably going to continue to decline. I think you have to accept that this is the new him although you don’t have to accept that you will spend time with him or expose your child to him.

I also agree that staying each week isn’t working out and perhaps your mum is only so accommodating because it dilutes your dad somewhat!

I don’t think the tea incident (warm liquid potentially splashing) is a huge deal but I also don’t think that’s really the issue here; it’s a build up of events and it’s understandable that you would have less tolerance after several incidents.

pinkducky · 30/08/2024 20:11

My health visitor told me that accidents with hot drinks are a top cause of baby's ending up in A&E. Every time I make a hot drink for a visitor at home I ask that they keep in either in their hands or on the high side table (not the low table or on the floor).

You weren't to know that the tea wasn't boiling hot. It's a perfectly acceptable thing to say. I would stop the overnight visits.

5128gap · 30/08/2024 20:11

Speak to your mum. Tell her your dad's behaviour has worried you a bit lately. Give her the examples you've given here. Ask her if she's noticed anything. If there is some decline she may be glad of a chance to share.

KellyJellyfish · 30/08/2024 20:05

Regarding comments about Dad’s health - last year he had an accident where he fell off a ladder doing odd jobs for the local church and unfortunately wasn’t found straight away, he suffered major head trauma and took a while to recover. A few months ago he had an unrelated brain scan (doctor was investigating bad headaches that turned out to be nothing) and noticed signs he’d previously had a stroke, we suspect shortly after the accident and the doctors missed it, it would explain his slow recovery and cognitive problems at the time, sadly this meant he never received treatment for the stroke but we thought it was ok as he never had any classic stroke symptoms.

But yes, I am now starting to wonder if this is a sign of decline and we should be more concerned about his health. I will speak to my sister about keeping an eye on him and see if she notices anything else.

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Newuser75 · 30/08/2024 20:04

graceinspace999 · 30/08/2024 19:56

Sounds very stressful. I’m wondering what your mum thinks? Could he be becoming I’ll?

Why not ask her if she’s noticed any strange or unusual behaviour.

I'd agree with this. His behaviour sounds concerning.

TomatoSandwiches · 30/08/2024 20:03

YANBU

Did your mother not say anything about this?

LissyG · 30/08/2024 20:01

I'd back off staying each week, it's clearly not working. I dont think warm tea would have been a problem and I'd probably leave an adult to it in that situation, as if you're already butting heads it's the type of thing that will annoy someone. But I'd just back off, let them ask you why you're not going anymore and explain its because your Dad is being awful towards you.

graceinspace999 · 30/08/2024 19:56

Sounds very stressful. I’m wondering what your mum thinks? Could he be becoming I’ll?

Why not ask her if she’s noticed any strange or unusual behaviour.

comedycentral · 30/08/2024 19:55

Is this out of character for your Dad? Is his health declining?
Also it might be time to break this frequent, expected sleepover, it will get harder to maintain once little one gets older and has friends and other interests. Plus it sounds like it's starting to be less of a treat and more of a chore.

DisforDarkChocolate · 30/08/2024 19:55

Either there is some cognitive decline or it's actually too much to visit every week.

I think you were perfectly reasonable but I'd cut back the visits.