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Shrieking child next door ALL DAY LONG! WWYD

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Mydietstartstomorrow · 30/08/2024 06:54

New neighbours moved in next door a few weeks ago. They have a young boy I’d estimate age 2 to 3. He shrieks virtually all day and evening, not in a crying upset way, more in play and excitement but it’s ALL.THE.TIME!
Theyre out in the garden and he’s shrieking (can’t think of another word for it) or kinda singing to himself in a really high pitched loud tone, and when they’re inside he’s doing the same. We live in small terrace houses and can hear loudish noise through the walls. I work from home 3 days a week and it’s driving me to distraction. We can’t sit out in the garden as it’s constant. I appreciate he may have some additional needs but surely the parents would be aware of the noise and try to reduce this? He is definitely verbal as I hear him chatting to his mum. Apparently the mum doesn’t speak English and the dad leaves for work early and comes back quite late so there’s been no interaction between us since they moved in. WWYD? The noise is driving me insane but I really don’t want to be insensitive

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Mydietstartstomorrow · 30/08/2024 11:16

StolenChanel · 30/08/2024 09:05

@Mydietstartstomorrow have you actually tried talking to them about it?

No, not yet, the mum doesn’t speak English and the dad is out at work all day. It would involve me going round and knocking one evening or weekend and I feel really awkward about doing that and what to say! The fences in the garden are high so I can’t lean over and say hi I would have to go round

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pinkroses79 · 30/08/2024 11:14

I wouldn't say anything tbh. I don't mind hearing children being happy in the daytime, I don't know when we came to expect silence all the time. It will change soon enough, when he grows up and goes to school. Is he going to nursery next week?

MrsSkylerWhite · 30/08/2024 11:14

Slowly, slowly catchy monkey.

Have you welcomed them? I think I’d start by dropping round a bunch of flowers or some sweets for the kid. “Just wanted to say hello and welcome to the street. Sorry it’s been a while, I’m really busy with work”. Suggest coffee, bring up that you wfh and try to steer the conversation in the right direction. If they’re reasonable people, they’ll listen.

If they’re not, I fear there’s not much you can do.

Getonwitit · 30/08/2024 11:12

Edenmum2 · 30/08/2024 07:56

Get some headphones. You can't ask someone to make their toddler be quiet, it's just what comes with being in a terrace. I imagine the parents would love some quiet time too.

Yes you can ask them. Being a toddler doesn't mean you get to rue the roost and having a toddler is not a free pass for parents to unleash their child on everyone else.

rosesinmygarden · 30/08/2024 11:12

shallweorderpizza · 30/08/2024 11:00

No not at all - sorry it if came over badly. I know as teachers (I am one myself) it’s easy to be frustrated with poorly behaved children but having my own DS has been humbling in that sense! I remember when he was two he decided he wanted another child’s toy, removed from the situation, went back, tried to distract him, nope, ended up having to take him away as he screamed and hysterically tried to fight his way out of my arms to get at this toy Confused and I don’t think this was behaviour out of the ordinary for a two year old.

Now, he’s three, approaching four and I could reason with him. He’d accept (stroppily probably but he would accept) ‘no, that’s Oliver’s toy, leave it.’

DS wasn’t very verbal until he was closer to three though: his language development followed a broadly ‘normal’ trajectory but I know a lot of children (mostly girls) who were a lot more sophisticated and able to use language far more clearly than DS aged two. So maybe that makes a difference. I just know my own DS had some pretty epic tantrums at 2 and luckily we don’t have neighbours but if we did I would have had to apologise profusely!

My daughter used to have almighty tantrums lol. It made me a much better teacher, having been a parent. If you know what I mean.

Mydietstartstomorrow · 30/08/2024 11:10

buffyajp · 30/08/2024 08:45

Then don’t work from home then. Personally I’m fed up of people moaning about children playing in their gardens because they apparently need quiet to work. If you choose to work from home then you don’t get to impose silence control on others in THEIR own homes. The little boy next door to me has been squealing high pitched for the past two days but he has additional needs and up until recently was non verbal so it’s great to hear him enjoying himself. Yes, the noise does occasionally go through me but I just suck it up because I don’t expect the world to revolve around me.

I don’t “choose” to work from home that’s how it’s turned out since covid!
And it’s not about just me working and being disturbed, people seem to be focusing on that! It’s an all of my home life too! I could probably cope if it was just during my working day, use headphones whatever, but it’s all the time!

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shallweorderpizza · 30/08/2024 11:00

No not at all - sorry it if came over badly. I know as teachers (I am one myself) it’s easy to be frustrated with poorly behaved children but having my own DS has been humbling in that sense! I remember when he was two he decided he wanted another child’s toy, removed from the situation, went back, tried to distract him, nope, ended up having to take him away as he screamed and hysterically tried to fight his way out of my arms to get at this toy Confused and I don’t think this was behaviour out of the ordinary for a two year old.

Now, he’s three, approaching four and I could reason with him. He’d accept (stroppily probably but he would accept) ‘no, that’s Oliver’s toy, leave it.’

DS wasn’t very verbal until he was closer to three though: his language development followed a broadly ‘normal’ trajectory but I know a lot of children (mostly girls) who were a lot more sophisticated and able to use language far more clearly than DS aged two. So maybe that makes a difference. I just know my own DS had some pretty epic tantrums at 2 and luckily we don’t have neighbours but if we did I would have had to apologise profusely!

BowlOfNoodles · 30/08/2024 10:59

fghbvh · 30/08/2024 07:20

If the child has ASD or other additional needs there may be nothing the parents can do. I'm assuming it will be much worse for them - I don't imagine the parents don't find it difficult too?

Yeah but it's their child lol

LittleMG · 30/08/2024 10:56

My 2 year old makes a crying type sound when he’s really enjoying playing 🤷‍♀️ but we’re not always playing sometime we just sit a watch tv in silence. I’d assume there’s nothing wrong with them and say can they try and calm him down.

rosesinmygarden · 30/08/2024 10:52

shallweorderpizza · 30/08/2024 10:45

I’m not stalking your posts. I was on your other thread Confused It isn’t stalking to remember a username.

You can and should show consideration and this goes both ways: one party should try to reduce the noise where possible and one should recognise that children, especially very young children, are often difficult to manage in this sense. It’s like crying babies, complete pain but often there is not much you can do.

No problem 😊 it felt a bit like you'd gone to the trouble of looking at my other posts to prove I was wrong but I maybe misinterpreted the tone of your post.

Yes, I agree that some noise is to be expected when you live in a built up area or have neighbours. Consideration and understanding on both sides make good neighbourly relations.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 30/08/2024 10:46

Some cultures parent children differently. We have fanily friends where the mum
was Japanese and a friend was a nanny for a time to them (4 boys). They’d let their DC around on tables with sharp knives and when the friend asked about safety it was “it’s fine in Japan” so she couldn’t do anything. I think she left earlier in the end.

Bex268 · 30/08/2024 10:45

My little boy verbally stims, not all day every day but a lot. I don’t find it frustrating unless he’s doing because he’s sad which is rare; it’s more a happy thing he does. Anyway, it comes and goes - it’s usually a phase but it comes back round the level of ‘severity’ it is. There’s absolutely nothing I can do about it. My husband can be quite sensitive to the noise when it’s through the night. It’s not always enjoyable 🥺.

shallweorderpizza · 30/08/2024 10:45

rosesinmygarden · 30/08/2024 10:33

Well done for stalking my posts and therefore believing you've discoverered my entire work history and know all my qualifications and work experience. Gold medal.

I agree about reasoning. That comes later. Best to keep things simpler at that age. As a parent though, you're an adult, and can definitely show consideration for your neighbours.

I’m not stalking your posts. I was on your other thread Confused It isn’t stalking to remember a username.

You can and should show consideration and this goes both ways: one party should try to reduce the noise where possible and one should recognise that children, especially very young children, are often difficult to manage in this sense. It’s like crying babies, complete pain but often there is not much you can do.

tinklingchimes · 30/08/2024 10:44

Comedycook · 30/08/2024 10:38

I also imagine those who complain about children playing in their garden are the types who tut about the fact that children are stuck inside on computer games...

Why can't there be balance? I have a problem preteen next door (not ND as far as I know). If his parents spent some time with him instead of leaving him at a loose end all the time, maybe he wouldn't be a problem for neighbours?

I accidently figured out a noise he hates though so, when he gets to be too much, I make the noise and he retreats inside immediately. Don't have to do it often though.

ButterCrackers · 30/08/2024 10:43

Comedycook · 30/08/2024 10:38

I also imagine those who complain about children playing in their garden are the types who tut about the fact that children are stuck inside on computer games...

This is screaming noise not kids playing noise.I have my neighbours kids playing outside with music and of course I accept this. Would I accept screaming 24/7 - not at all.I would get the situation checked out by the police and social services.

daliesque · 30/08/2024 10:42

Why is the answer to screaming kids disturbing neighbours always that the neighbour needs to disrupt their own lives to pander to shit parenting?
It's ludicrous.

godmum56 · 30/08/2024 10:42

Comedycook · 30/08/2024 10:37

I always thought that noise from children was not considered a noise nuisance by local councils? I could be wrong

it can be depending on the loudness and duration. Children at play no, constant screaming maybe. It does also depend on the council.

Comedycook · 30/08/2024 10:41

The mother not learning English is disgraceful

Get a grip

Andoutcomethewolves · 30/08/2024 10:40

godmum56 · 30/08/2024 10:35

its called "quiet enjoyment" and yes in the Uk it is a right. The way to enforce it is through the council noise nuisance facility. It doesn't mean that there can never be any noise but "excessive disturbance" can certainly be addressed.

That's not what quiet enjoyment means - that relates to a tenant's right to love in their rental property without interference from the landlord.

You can still try and raise it with the council under noise control but unless it's outside the hours of 7am - 11pm you won't get anywhere...

Fortesque · 30/08/2024 10:40

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NatalieJeffers · 30/08/2024 10:40

Mydietstartstomorrow · 30/08/2024 09:05

But it’s not just when I’m working it’s all the time! My evenings and weekends too! I can’t sit out in the garden I’ve spent time and money on!

Exactly!

I am retired and also wouldn’t like having to hear that level of noise and not be able to sit in my garden and enjoy it.

godmum56 · 30/08/2024 10:39

Wishthiswasntmypost · 30/08/2024 10:32

I have neighbours like this. Only mum though. Dad arrives home and sound levels reduce to normal happy noise. Mum ....yelling as she's incapable of moving to be near to anyone ....she just yells top volume....music full blast, swearing loudly...very short fuse with kids.

It's noise that is not necessary and is impacting her neighbours. I can't see why anyone thinks making loud noise trumps their neighbour's need to work at home, sleep, think etc.

I have experienced this too. Situation only ended when the parents split up and Mum moved out. Now when the kids are there with dad the noise level is normal.

Comedycook · 30/08/2024 10:38

I also imagine those who complain about children playing in their garden are the types who tut about the fact that children are stuck inside on computer games...

Comedycook · 30/08/2024 10:37

I always thought that noise from children was not considered a noise nuisance by local councils? I could be wrong

rosesinmygarden · 30/08/2024 10:37

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 30/08/2024 10:27

I have. The fact you think nd children can be somehow taught to behave is really misinformed. If you work in mainstream with more academic children you have very little experience about this.

I haven't said this.