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Shrieking child next door ALL DAY LONG! WWYD

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Mydietstartstomorrow · 30/08/2024 06:54

New neighbours moved in next door a few weeks ago. They have a young boy I’d estimate age 2 to 3. He shrieks virtually all day and evening, not in a crying upset way, more in play and excitement but it’s ALL.THE.TIME!
Theyre out in the garden and he’s shrieking (can’t think of another word for it) or kinda singing to himself in a really high pitched loud tone, and when they’re inside he’s doing the same. We live in small terrace houses and can hear loudish noise through the walls. I work from home 3 days a week and it’s driving me to distraction. We can’t sit out in the garden as it’s constant. I appreciate he may have some additional needs but surely the parents would be aware of the noise and try to reduce this? He is definitely verbal as I hear him chatting to his mum. Apparently the mum doesn’t speak English and the dad leaves for work early and comes back quite late so there’s been no interaction between us since they moved in. WWYD? The noise is driving me insane but I really don’t want to be insensitive

OP posts:
IWasHittingMyMarks · 30/08/2024 12:33

Mypuppyismad · 30/08/2024 08:11

People telling op to wear headphones or even move house!! Why should she? . The I is here is in the parents of the child to keep him quiet and not let him make everyone life a misery around him. If they can’t do that then they should move. Don’t inflict your kids noise on others. If there are some special needs it’s a shame but it still stands that others shouldn’t be disturbed. If that is the case it’s up to them to either soundproof or move somewhere with no neighbors.

I agree with that to a point ... but working from home when homes were not built with that in mind is also a contributing factor and they need to learn to cope with everyday residential noise if they choose to work from homes in a built up neighbourhood. People have lives and make normal, everyday noise in their homes. This includes noisy children.

Mydietstartstomorrow · 30/08/2024 12:28

Heronwatcher · 30/08/2024 09:30

They’ve probably spent money and time on their garden too! You both have the right to enjoy it, them for their young child to play. Have you tried having a quiet word with them yet or discussing it- I wasn’t clear about that?

No they haven’t, they’ve just moved in and the landlord had everything done for them beforehand but not really relevant. I don’t think you’re getting the point really that surely it’s about having the right to a little peace and quiet. I’m not expecting the kid to be quiet all day but it would be nice to have a little amount of time! There’s a couple of kids a few gardens down that play pit and I enjoy listening to them laughing and playing but this shrill shrieking is a different level! I hope you enjoy your relatively quiet home I’m envious!

OP posts:
Fraggeek · 30/08/2024 12:26

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 30/08/2024 09:10

My son has very, very little understanding of speech and if I told him it's not OK not to make sounds (which is the way he stims) he would understand exatly zero of it, it just makes him more distressed. And we have been trying different things for years. I no longer 'calm him down' in public.

This argument 'my kids are also ND and therefore I know everything there is about it and they dont do this..." is so shit when it comes from other parents of ND children, if YOU dont understand that neurodiversity can present differently in other kids than yours, how can we expect peopel with NT kids to get it.

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My son has some understanding but again, try to calm him down and all hell breaks loose. He's 3 and ASD and is a very loud child at the best of times. He doesn't understand volume the way we do and if you tell him to be quiet, it's not going to work. It's not something that can be changed with scolding a child or punishing them. Especially when SEN is involved.

We have had SS called. And the police and all it's done is create a huge amount of anxiety on my part and the police traumatised my son.

merlotmerlin · 30/08/2024 12:22

A friend had noisy neighbours who kept late hours that disturbed the family with children. He put speakers close to the wall which was their bedroom and very loud music early in the morning and then went out for half the day. Nothing was said but It worked, much more civilised thereafter.

Fight fire with fire. You have nothing to lose?
You need to show them that you will not be fucked about.

ClaudiaWankleman · 30/08/2024 12:18

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Toastcrumbsinsofa · 30/08/2024 12:17

Could you get one of those mosquito alarms? Only the child would be able to hear it.

IOSTT · 30/08/2024 12:13

I’m in similar situation, neighbour boy of about 5, shrieks regularly and loudly until he almost breaks glass. Sounds more like attention seeking than eg autism. HIS baby neighbour, aged about 2, is now copying the loud shrieking, must think it’s normal behaviour. I usually have to shut windows and use ear plugs.

Lavenderfields121 · 30/08/2024 12:06

ClaudiaWankleman · 30/08/2024 11:56

No, I mean that when someone writes a thread asking 'what would you do' in response to finding it difficult to work from home due to neighbour noise, a response which suggests going into the office more often is a completely reasonable, common sense and logical suggestion which has now been met with complete pigheadedness by two posters.

But this does not just affect the OP’s work. Nobody should have to endure consistent noise pollution in their own home.

Goldenbear · 30/08/2024 12:03

oakleaffy · 30/08/2024 11:43

Wonderful result! Well done proactive neighbour!

Yes, one of the parents was resistant at first and said their dc have a right to play in the street (that isn’t where their house is🤨) but I think the Grandma agreed with my older neighbour as I’d often see her telling them to return home as it was late or whatever. I am a laid back person and have DC so I know what it is like when they are younger; mine played on their scooters outside sometimes but I was really aware of the impact on others if they were noisy and would ask them in if noisy and tell them not to be. Life is about compromise so i think they were being unreasonable for stretches of playing out for hours at a time as others have a right to enjoy their house in peace. This was how I was brought up but my parents wouldn’t have tolerated screeching mostly for their own sake😂

ClaudiaWankleman · 30/08/2024 11:56

ButterCrackers · 30/08/2024 11:48

Do you mean that the screaming child family should pay her costs in funding another office space and travel to and from? Why should the op have extra costs because of the neighbour’s selfishness?

No, I mean that when someone writes a thread asking 'what would you do' in response to finding it difficult to work from home due to neighbour noise, a response which suggests going into the office more often is a completely reasonable, common sense and logical suggestion which has now been met with complete pigheadedness by two posters.

parkrun500club · 30/08/2024 11:54

I have neighbours with a daughter who shrieks. They actually encourage it.

The only good thing is that they want to build an extension which will take up most of their garden. We'll have the building noise but once it's done, she won't have space to play in the garden anymore.

Noseybookworm · 30/08/2024 11:53

Mydietstartstomorrow · 30/08/2024 11:16

No, not yet, the mum doesn’t speak English and the dad is out at work all day. It would involve me going round and knocking one evening or weekend and I feel really awkward about doing that and what to say! The fences in the garden are high so I can’t lean over and say hi I would have to go round

Well nothing is going to change unless you try and speak to them as a first step! Just have a friendly conversation and explain that you're trying to work and finding the noise really intrusive. They may not realise how much you can hear, especially if they're used to it.

ButterCrackers · 30/08/2024 11:48

ClaudiaWankleman · 30/08/2024 11:46

Because she's finding it hard to work at home? Don't be dense.

Do you mean that the screaming child family should pay her costs in funding another office space and travel to and from? Why should the op have extra costs because of the neighbour’s selfishness?

ClaudiaWankleman · 30/08/2024 11:46

pinkyredrose · 30/08/2024 11:35

Why should she?

Because she's finding it hard to work at home? Don't be dense.

oakleaffy · 30/08/2024 11:43

Goldenbear · 30/08/2024 11:35

You need a grumpy neighbour who has different expectations on behaviour, we live pretty centrally with DC but they are teenagers and one nearly an adult, it isn’t suburbia or a ‘family’ area particularly. Anyway, we had some Children that don’t actually live on our road, start to play tennis on the street; I wfh some days and the noise of the ball too and throw was sometimes 3hrs after school with a break for dinner (I assume), the ball would often bounce off my car bonnet! Plus, there was singing of West end productions like Matilda- it was the same song over and over, even my teens were complaining and one of them always has his earphones on listening to music but he could hear it through that. I think if it had been an hour or so after school not that bad but sometimes they would go inside until 8.30 at night so in total about 4 hours! In the end my neighbour asked them to go and play tennis in their own street or go to the park which is ten minutes away and complained to the parents. It has pretty much stopped and I see the Grandma with them near the park so I assume they have decided this is a better option!

Wonderful result! Well done proactive neighbour!

hydriotaphia · 30/08/2024 11:41

I feel like you need to talk to the neighbours. You don't know what is going on so I think it is really premature to suggest they are selfish or bad parents. I also think you should think about possible compromises to suggest that might help eg curtains/carpets to absorb noise in their and/or your house.

oakleaffy · 30/08/2024 11:39

Mydietstartstomorrow · 30/08/2024 09:05

But it’s not just when I’m working it’s all the time! My evenings and weekends too! I can’t sit out in the garden I’ve spent time and money on!

Have they bought, or do they rent?
If rent, maybe speak to the landlord if possible?

The noise sounds extreme, and chances are they will have more kids if the wife is a stay at home mum.

I really feel your pain, screaming noises puts everyone on edge. Parents seem to be more immune when it is their own kid screeching.

schnubbins · 30/08/2024 11:38

We have neighbours like this , thankfully not right next door but across the way from us . They have three children from six years down to a baby .At 7.30 am they plonk them outside in the garden and the screaming and shrieking starts including the parents who have never heard of speaking in indoor voices .It is truely unbelievable .I pity their immediate next door neighbours.

pinkyredrose · 30/08/2024 11:35

violetsparkle · 30/08/2024 06:55

Can you go into the office more?

Why should she?

Goldenbear · 30/08/2024 11:35

Loonaandalf · 30/08/2024 07:39

I have the same issue, used to live in a more central and busy part of london now moved out to suburbs and people here are much nosier. I wfh sometimes and in those days I have a neighbour who has no quiet voice, she talks so loud and is always out in her garden doing something or other, she narrates and calls out to her husband about something all day long, even early in the morning.

Then the other next door neighbour has a v whiney toddler who just seems to constantly whinge all day and throw tantrums, I’m hoping it’s just a phase, again they seem to always be outside when he’s whining or else he whines all day and I’m just lucky I can’t hear it when he’s indoors.

On top of that, there’s an older child, at least 8 years old who screeches in a way you describe all day long when he’s out playing with the other kids in the street. I had presumed that he had SEN but from further observation I don’t think he has.

Meanwhile here’s DH and I, trying to train our dogs not to bark so the neighbours won’t be disturbed. We also try keep windows closed if we are on a work call where you need to project your voice a lot. Are we the mad ones?

I miss my sound proofed new build flat 🤣

You need a grumpy neighbour who has different expectations on behaviour, we live pretty centrally with DC but they are teenagers and one nearly an adult, it isn’t suburbia or a ‘family’ area particularly. Anyway, we had some Children that don’t actually live on our road, start to play tennis on the street; I wfh some days and the noise of the ball too and throw was sometimes 3hrs after school with a break for dinner (I assume), the ball would often bounce off my car bonnet! Plus, there was singing of West end productions like Matilda- it was the same song over and over, even my teens were complaining and one of them always has his earphones on listening to music but he could hear it through that. I think if it had been an hour or so after school not that bad but sometimes they would go inside until 8.30 at night so in total about 4 hours! In the end my neighbour asked them to go and play tennis in their own street or go to the park which is ten minutes away and complained to the parents. It has pretty much stopped and I see the Grandma with them near the park so I assume they have decided this is a better option!

Fercullen · 30/08/2024 11:34

I really feel for you OP. We have a child next door - an 8 year old girl who squeals and shrieks ALL the time. Happy, sad, excited - it’s all expressed in a high pitched shriek. Ear- piercing and alarming. She even shrieks happily to herself where another child would hum or sing. No SEN. It’s been years since I’ve been able to enjoy my garden.

oakleaffy · 30/08/2024 11:32

TinkerTiger · 30/08/2024 10:27

This. Find a place to work.

It's OP's whole life being disrupted by this hideous noise. Not just her working hours.

There was a wonderful noise cancelling face mask advertised for children about 10 years ago- sadly it was just a spoof ad.

LlynTegid · 30/08/2024 11:30

Speak to the dad tomorrow. If they are fairly new to the country or indeed the area, you could frame it as raising concern, pointing out some people will not do this, just complain to someone such as social services. You could use the example of the person who complained about Kirstie Allsop.

Floralnomad · 30/08/2024 11:20

I’ve no suggestions but you have my sympathy as we have noisy neighbours - loads of noisy children , equally noisy adults , loud music in the garden - I could go on . We are detached so the noise isn’t bad indoors , particularly if I have the windows shut and our own household noise but unless they are out peaceful enjoyment of our garden is impossible .

oakleaffy · 30/08/2024 11:16

Yerroblemom1923 · 30/08/2024 07:36

Someone will shout SN soon, I'm sure, but I think you need to speak to his parents and tell them to stop him from shrieking. It's not fair on your family to let him carry on with this.

Mumsnet Bingo! ''Special needs'' always suggested for the less than well behaved child.

@Mydietstartstomorrow Screeching like this would drive many people {including me} round the bend.
Was in a supermarket yesterday and a child screamed so suddenly and shrilly it actually hurt my ears.

Far too many kids are just allowed to screech and make a noise without being reined in.

As kids, we were told to ''keep the noise down'' of we had friends to play-

As to ''noise cancelling headphones'' who wants to wear those in their own house, when it isn't even their kid screeching?

Plus reviews say they don't work for screeching and baby crying, it just takes the sharp edge off the awful sound.