To think we should all boycott John Lewis until they respect their female employees

I already boycott them as they use Royal Mail for deliveries and they’re never left, but happy to additionally boycott for this too

It's going to be an interesting battle when it happens, and I think it it will happen eventually as the Muslims I know are very against mixed sex spaces and particularly by deception.

You could even say making all your facilities mixed sex without informing anyone is pretty Islamophobic (and discriminating against other religions too). Especially since having clearly labeled third spaces would be so easy and would accommodate everyone (well except those for whom the point is to get access to unconsenting women and children but as we know this never happens).

How nice of you to be so supportive of those female employees, so very, very kind.

The number of women on this thread who DGAF about the safety and dignity of other women just because they don't know them?! Who needs the patriarchy when you have women like that, eh?

When two groups shave opposing wants:

1. women having access to female-only spaces

2. men having access to female-only spaces

What makes group one so easy to dismiss and group two so easy to prioritise?

At least 5 years ago JL said customers should use whichever changing room they feel comfortable with.

So men can use the women's changing rooms, meaning that I, a woman, don't feel comfortable with them.

JL doesn't cater for me so I don't shop there.

They’re a protected characteristic.

As is sex.

Women are entitled to single sex spaces. Men, whatever they believe they are, are not entitled to access them. That’s the actual law. Stonewall may wish otherwise but it’s only a matter of time before that house of cards falls.

I'll join you in your boycott and letter writing OP. I am sick and tired of how women and girls wants and needs are so easily dismissed and disregarded in favour of males.

The fact no female employee was even asked about this and it was just imposed on them says it all about who wields the power and exposes the misogyny and patriarchal control at the heart of this. There is zero respect or consideration for women.

John Lewis falling victim to absurd American gender ideology that lets men ( married, with willies, etc) claim they are women, dress up as women and enter women s spaces. You re letting a lot of women down here, JL. Don t knowingly undersell us.

Just because safe space on religious grounds intersects with the trans issue doesn't now make that right. Women being banned from male spaces in religion is misogyny as well. Having their own safe space comes from that, nothing else.

Have you missed the tribunal case where NHS workers are taking their employer to court for this (illegal) policy?

Yep. Happily.

Nope, not bothered by this at all!

You would think religious rights Trump trans rights?

In which case they shouldn’t be shafting their main customer base - by pandering to those with shafts.

How utterly miserable that so many WOMEN on Mumsnet who would be self-flagellating with barbed wire if John Lewis were discriminating against black people have no issue with this grotesque discrimination against women and girls.

Misogyny really is the oldest and deepest hatred.

Would fit right in Afghanistan with that attitude! Completely fine with women being excluded from public spaces - exactly like the Taliban.

How would you even go about that?

How do you choose to not financially support the NHS?

Agree. It used to be a good shop but not anymore. Women will work and shop elsewhere.

They all let men into women’s toilets? Trying to imagine the epic privilege in being able to be nonchalant about this.

Fine with me, plenty of local independent retailers have single sex spaces and run by sex realists with a grasp of child safety, because I chat with them about it. More expensive but I can afford it. The MRAs deserve to fail. And public services will be sued back into single sex provision pretty soon, contributing to crowd funders will speed that up.

That’s discriminatory against women. They should take it up with their union.

I don’t use John Lewis much anyway, but will boycott and write to the CEO. Does this policy also apply to their Waitrose stores?

With this sort of crappy attitude to their main customer base they deserve to fail. They'll be replaced by another business in the same space - hopefully one that has a better approach to women's rights, their female employees and child safeguarding, and by doing so do better at giving the customer what they want.