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To think we should all boycott John Lewis until they respect their female employees

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Lovelyview · 29/08/2024 17:26

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/resignation-letter-from-a-john-lewis

This is a letter from a female employee of John Lewis's Cheadle branch. John Lewis told its female employees that they have to share toilets and locker rooms with trans identifying men. The employee says this is having a terrible effect especially on colleagues who have experienced trauma relating to men or who have religious reasons to not want to share a space with someone who is the opposite sex.

Resignation letter from a John Lewis Partner

The John Lewis Partnership is abusing its female staff and customers

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/resignation-letter-from-a-john-lewis

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Helleofabore · 05/09/2024 21:04

It is a mockery of the truth eresh.

Just like my opinion of anyone who tries to tell me that males can be women is already that I can never trust anything else that they say without doing a fact check.

I don’t understand why some
people then expect their opinions to be welcomed as if they have imparted some kind of factual information. They have actively provided misinformation and seem to think others should just believe them because they occasionally tell us they have particular qualifications.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/09/2024 17:50

How can you swear to tell the truth if you're not actually allowed to? He's a man.

Helleofabore · 05/09/2024 17:09

And here is another way that language is used coercively.

archive.is/2024.09.03-175410/www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/courts/5074534/dundee-mp-chris-law-fear-alarm/

Morgan, of Bonnethill Court, Dundee, was found guilty of behaving in a threatening or abusive manner on Marshall Street on November 24 and 25 2022 and at Dundee police HQ on November 29.

Misgendering delay

The trial had to be halted when the transgender accused became annoyed by witnesses calling her a man.

Several witnesses had described Morgan as “he” and “him” as they detailed how she targeted the Dundee West MP.

Morgan – who once appeared in court as a man called Alan and a woman called Alannah on the same day – was annoyed by being misgendered.

People being shamed and punished for not lying about an abuser’s sex? I really don’t quite understand why anyone is trying to shame those who don’t just follow along these days.

Forced language change is harmful to female people. And any attempt to coerce acceptance of male people into any female single sex space is harmful too.

YoYoYoYo12345 · 04/09/2024 16:57

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/09/2024 09:07

I STILL have no idea why people this they should be allowed to override biological reality with 'feelings' when it comes to sex, but not anything else.

Why not age, race, disability, etc?

It's a very good question. IME it tends to provoke an aggressive, spluttering response from trans rights activists and their supporters. Although we know that adult people have also "identified" as adult babies

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4400306

Six year old girls

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/transgender-father-stefonknee-wolscht-who-left-family-to-be-a-sixyearold-girl-uses-child-s-play-to-escape-adult-life-a6775051.html

White people have identified as black

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Dolezal

White males have identified as Filipina women

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/man-transracial-white-florida-filipino-rachel-dolezal-philippines-ja-du-adam-a8053731.html

White able bodied males have identified as disabled women

https://anonw.com/2012/04/22/eat-your-heart-out-chloe-jennings-white/

White males have identified as pregnant women

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/princess-mom

But people tend to say these things never happen.

Indeed.

Fetishism but all it trans and it opens doors. They want everyone to play along. Some grown ups are saying no thanks. Reality is important.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/09/2024 13:30

And yet, the group who has their language and their spaces and object are the ones called hateful, bigots, and apparently should be the ones seeking to have their mental health issues fixed.

Will today be the day that someone posts the evidence that male people’s beliefs that they are female people is anything more than based on post modernist theories or other philosophical beliefs, or a political movement. And an aggressive political movement ?

I haven't seen it in 8 years or so, so I doubt it.

Helleofabore · 04/09/2024 11:47

So a question for those who fully support male people being in female single sex spaces, where do the bio-transwomen go?

If they are to use the male toilets, and do so safely, why can't male people who have declared they are female?

Here are two here on this twitter account.

https://x.com/sillylilyts

No only that, but I think this article linked below adds yet more confirmation that despite what we have been told we have to believe, apparently that transgender people don't believe their own mantras. Apparently, 'trans people are who they say they are' is also meaningless.

Operation: Let them speak really does make things a whole lot clearer. We now know that being transgender has very little to do with gender dysphoria and has a great deal to do with philosophical belief. We now know that cis was always a meaningless term for the purposes that we were told to use it.

Yet, we are supposed to believe some posters who declare that TWAW when they cannot produce a shred of evidence to support that mantra either.

metro.co.uk/2024/09/03/transfishing-become-a-thing-couldnt-appalled-21538741/

x.com

https://x.com/sillylilyts

Helleofabore · 04/09/2024 09:56

The logic that society should embrace one group with identities that don’t reflect the obective materiality of that person’s bodily reality and deny others is surreal.

And yet, here we are.

And yet, the group who has their language and their spaces and object are the ones called hateful, bigots, and apparently should be the ones seeking to have their mental health issues fixed.

Will today be the day that someone posts the evidence that male people’s beliefs that they are female people is anything more than based on post modernist theories or other philosophical beliefs, or a political movement. And an aggressive political movement ?

I genuinely hope so.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/09/2024 09:07

I STILL have no idea why people this they should be allowed to override biological reality with 'feelings' when it comes to sex, but not anything else.

Why not age, race, disability, etc?

It's a very good question. IME it tends to provoke an aggressive, spluttering response from trans rights activists and their supporters. Although we know that adult people have also "identified" as adult babies

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4400306

Six year old girls

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/transgender-father-stefonknee-wolscht-who-left-family-to-be-a-sixyearold-girl-uses-child-s-play-to-escape-adult-life-a6775051.html

White people have identified as black

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Dolezal

White males have identified as Filipina women

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/man-transracial-white-florida-filipino-rachel-dolezal-philippines-ja-du-adam-a8053731.html

White able bodied males have identified as disabled women

https://anonw.com/2012/04/22/eat-your-heart-out-chloe-jennings-white/

White males have identified as pregnant women

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/princess-mom

But people tend to say these things never happen.

YoYoYoYo12345 · 03/09/2024 21:32

Cailleach1 · 03/09/2024 19:44

There is no qualification or equivocation about it. Men will never become women. And vice versa. The pretence in law is only ink on paper. Irrespective of any person’s belief or opinion. I could write down that I am a horse. I could get someone else to say that I’m a horse. It wouldn’t make me a horse, and all I would have achieved is to get a person to lie. Ne’er a magic transformation possible to achieve an impossibility.

Once people believed that St. Vitus’ Dance was caused by those afflicted being possessed by the Devil. Everyone in the whole world could have believed it, Yet that was always false, and was always caused by a streptococcal infection.

This.

However, currently many chant the twaw mantra without your logical thinking. Hopefully, people are starting to realise the damage done to women when women are pushed aside to promote and push forward men that want to be women. Can only hope more people can see the reality of the ideology and where is leaves real women.

TheKeatingFive · 03/09/2024 21:05

I STILL have no idea why people this they should be allowed to override biological reality with 'feelings' when it comes to sex, but not anything else.

Why not age, race, disability, etc?

Helleofabore · 03/09/2024 20:51

Everytime I see the assertion that TWAW, I wonder… what happens with all the other gender identities? There is such focus on the two ‘binary genders’ and ‘non binary’ and yet there are over 130 gender identities. Everyone seems to forget those.

Also, those other identities where people use extreme body modifications to resemble their conceptualisation of that identity. Such as the lizards and snakes. So, the only logic that is true for males who declare they are female are that they are male people who can only ever live how they conceptualise a female human lives. That is all they are doing. They have not become a woman or a female.

This is the same for the other extreme body modification identities. Yet, no one has to be forced, or convinced to believe that a person with extreme tattoos, inserts and piercings of various types and tongue modifications has become what they say they have.

The lack of symmetry defies logic that we need to treat one group as if they are what they say they are, and not other groups.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/09/2024 20:22

could write down that I am a horse. I could get someone else to say that I’m a horse. It wouldn’t make me a horse, and all I would have achieved is to get a person to lie. Ne’er a magic transformation possible to achieve an impossibility.

A law could be passed to say that you were "legally a horse" if you had a certificate. It still wouldn't mean you were actually a horse.

Cailleach1 · 03/09/2024 19:44

YoYoYoYo12345 · 03/09/2024 18:02

They will never really be women in the eyes of many who use biological reality. Fantasy and ideology should never get in the way of fact.

There is no qualification or equivocation about it. Men will never become women. And vice versa. The pretence in law is only ink on paper. Irrespective of any person’s belief or opinion. I could write down that I am a horse. I could get someone else to say that I’m a horse. It wouldn’t make me a horse, and all I would have achieved is to get a person to lie. Ne’er a magic transformation possible to achieve an impossibility.

Once people believed that St. Vitus’ Dance was caused by those afflicted being possessed by the Devil. Everyone in the whole world could have believed it, Yet that was always false, and was always caused by a streptococcal infection.

Helleofabore · 03/09/2024 18:35

Oh. And the Cass Report.

Which has been supported, it seems by Sandyford. And the American Plastic surgeons this past week or two as well.

Helleofabore · 03/09/2024 18:28

GailBlancheViola · 03/09/2024 18:07

The GoodLawProject has sent an email to subscribers, announcing that they're stepping back from trans-related legal cases from next year.”

They've not exactly got a good record on winning despite claiming every single time that they are right.

This is true.

or maybe they have read the writing on the wall. That stonewall’s version of the law was wishful thinking and that it is looking more and more difficult to convince people to prioritise male people’s demands over female people’s needs. And to convince people to simply comply with the political and philosophical demands where previously they could emotionally manipulate people with suicide and murder misinformation and gender dysphoria stories.

So, no more is gender dysphoria relevant for the majority of trans people. And the suicide and murder misinformation for UK has been clarified. The government and police forces have made clear that calling a male person a man is not a crime. Doesn’t leave much to support it all, imo.

Previously, all this was supported by fear. Fear of criminal punishment, fear of causing someone’s death, fear of being ostracised or cancelled. Fear of being called transphobic, hateful, bigoted. On here we were fearful of being deleted all the time. So much fear. But that fear has gone and people are thinking, well… this is coercive and it isn’t right.

And we have to thank events like Isla Bryson, the Hate crime act of Scotland and JKRowling testing the waters, Lia Thomas/hubbard/Emily bridges, and recently Khelif, Lin and now Petrillo.

GailBlancheViola · 03/09/2024 18:07

The GoodLawProject has sent an email to subscribers, announcing that they're stepping back from trans-related legal cases from next year.”

They've not exactly got a good record on winning despite claiming every single time that they are right.

YoYoYoYo12345 · 03/09/2024 18:02

They will never really be women in the eyes of many who use biological reality. Fantasy and ideology should never get in the way of fact.

GailBlancheViola · 03/09/2024 18:00

ElleWoods15 · 03/09/2024 15:35

In your opinion.

No, in the Law. Why do you continually get the law wrong?

YoYoYoYo12345 · 03/09/2024 17:45

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/09/2024 17:40

Well, after Stonewall’s announcement this week to not take on anymore schools or colleges, Good Law Project has announced they won’t be doing more trans law projects from 2025.

Interesting!

BlueLimeRun · 03/09/2024 17:38

Thank you to all the posters who have explained and defended the rights of women so clearly. It really does help - especially when some work places are making these decisions for us (or trying to).

Helleofabore · 03/09/2024 17:36

Well, after Stonewall’s announcement this week to not take on anymore schools or colleges, Good Law Project has announced they won’t be doing more trans law projects from 2025.

x.com/berk_hamstead/status/1830990411965333702?s=46&t=HTxp6zC_d4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

“The GoodLawProject has sent an email to subscribers, announcing that they're stepping back from trans-related legal cases from next year.”

I suspect that GLP won’t be helping defend any organisation that will be challenged to defend their choice of whether to use exceptions to the EA2010 or not.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/09/2024 16:08

Possibly a me problem, so feel free to clarify or not!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/09/2024 16:07

Or don't. Up to you. But your comment doesn't make much sense to me.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/09/2024 16:04

You'll have to explain what you mean.