To think we should all boycott John Lewis until they respect their female employees

@Petitchat perhaps you can now explain how chromosome based loos would be enforced and how it would solve the supposed problem?

We are objecting to MEN in WOMEN's spaces.

Everyone can see your disingenuous attempts to muddy the waters for what they are

Okay, I'm gonna say this really slow and keep saying it until it goes in.

We are

I'm pretty sure stating facts is not a hate crime in the uk.

1. For the same reason you should have no say over whether black women, Muslim women or lesbians are in women’s loos.
2. It’s a reasonable accommodation for transphobes to use separate facilities as they are the ones with the issue. You are confusing “women’s rights” with gender critical peoples’ desire to change the law to exclude transgender people.

Please could you specify what it is that you think is transphobic?

I have autistic traits so would really appreciate this.

You do realise it's classed as a hate crime, right?

What is? Pointing out that trans women are men? Wrong.

Your post is virtue-signalling nonsense. Why do you have such a problem with women asserting their boundaries? You’re so outraged that women have the nerve to say ‘umm actually, we don’t want men in our female-only spaces.’ Why?

You’ve got it all back to front. There is a wave of male entitlement, supported by the usual ‘useful idiot’ phenomenon, that is crapping all over women’s boundaries. But you’re outraged at the women trying to defend their spaces against this attack. It’s the classic ‘how dare you upset me by telling me I’m standing on your foot’ trope. Absolutely bonkers.

This boomer agrees with you wholeheartedly. Well said.

@DadJoke

Again:

1. Can you please explain why you think it is transphobic (to not want a man in MY toilet)?
2. Can you explain why womens rights and disabled rights should be pushed aside.

There are people who pretend to be something they are not and never can be. We may need a word for them, we do not need a word for everyone else

And it's absolutely not the same as sexuality. Of course people can be homosexual or heterosexual or bisexual.

What people can't do, ever, is change sex.

Why would we be introducing genital based loos?
We already have them.
Women and Mens.

Remember:
Biological sex is fact.
Gender is thought.

HTH

There are people who are transgender and people who are not transgender. Cis just means “not transgender.” Even if you think transgender people are “infected by gender ideology” that’s still the case. It’s a useful adjective in this discussion.

The same terminological battles happened with heterosexual/homosexual, too. People said “I’m not heterosexual, I’m normal.”

But to repeat my point without using the language you don’t like - the most commonly affect people when you introduce genital based loos are women who are not transgender being accused of being transgender.

Being called transphobic because I don't want a man in MY toilet is just weird and a total insult.

1. Can you explain why you think it is transphobic?
2. Can you explain why womens rights and disabled rights should be pushed aside?

You seem to be really stretching now and sounding a bit silly.

The issue is men going into womens loos.
Not gay women, not religious women.

There's no such thing as cis women, in my opinion.

There are:
Women
Men

There needs to be sufficient accommodation for disabled people, but the tiny handful of women who suffer PTSD because a trans women or a gay person might be in the loo can easily be included. Unisex loos are also an option.

On the basis that trans women have been using women’s loos for decades and it appears that it’s gender critical people with “concerns” for others who are complaining now, it’s not actually an issue - it’s just people who have made transphobia their whole personality being transphobic.

Why have you added gay people, people of different religions and trans men ? It’s trans women we don’t want to share with, otherwise known as men. You’re well aware of that yet think if you add the other people you mentioned it makes it look unreasonable.

More rights being trampled on then?

sounds like it

You think non disabled people should use the disabled loos?

More rights being trampled on then?

Every single loo on the high street, in all public buildings and pretty much every single private business allows trans women in women’s loos.

The alternative - genital or chromosome based loos first does not solve the supposed problem (men in women’s loos) is unenforceable and the people who suffer most are gender non-conforming cis women who are falsely accused of being transgender.

if you are unable to share loos with gay people, people of different religions or transgender people, you should be accommodated in the disabled loos.

lots of places have changing rooms with curtains where i am…deffo JL and next, not M&S

'Hyperbole' like people can't change sex?