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Would you have children if you knew they may never move out?

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bubblemaze · 29/08/2024 15:07

I know times have changed a lot lately and parents who had children who are now young adults are finding that those children have reached adulthood but aren't able to fly the nest so are staying in the parents home.
We don't know how society will be in 25 years.

What do you imagine for the future generations? Are people thinking about starting a family looking at permanently being financially responsible for their children, a lot of parents say they wouldn't charge their adult children to live in their own home but could be living with them for the rest of their lives?

I'm trying to imagine what having a family will look like for our generation.

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Gogogo12345 · 29/08/2024 21:23

RickyRoadddx · 29/08/2024 21:17

Who downsizes from a two bed flat?!

Many people if they need to. If you rent it then you can be a few hundred better off a month in a one bed

RickyRoadddx · 29/08/2024 21:17

Gogogo12345 · 29/08/2024 20:36

So you keep them until they save a big deposit. Does it work that way if you are renting a 2 bed flat and would be financially better off downsizing

Who downsizes from a two bed flat?!

Nicelynicelyjohnson · 29/08/2024 21:16

housethatbuiltme · 29/08/2024 20:56

Lets be honest would any woman on here want to date a 38 year old man who always lived at home with his parents and didn't financially support himself?

No.

And its not different for women either... if you want your able kid to stay home and they haven't even attempted to have a proper adult live in relationship and/or fly the nest by their 30s then you raised nothing but a failed cock lodging mooch. Its not something to be proud of and the amount of parental co-dependency is weird and NOT in your kids interest.

This is a big fear of mine. I love my kids, but I'd love to be able to visit them in their own houses - and maybe have them cook me a meal once in a while. Happy for them to come and stay, but would not be happy if they never launched at all.

I guess from the number of people here who are happy for their kids to remain at home, they don't see it as a problem.
I wonder though how many people on this thread married a man (or woman) who was living at home in their thirties?

Gogogo12345 · 29/08/2024 21:10

SoundedGoodYesterday · 29/08/2024 20:50

So you keep them until they save a big deposit. Does it work that way if you are renting a 2 bed flat and would be financially better off downsizing

@Gogogo12345 What's your problem? I was talking about our own circumstances, not judging what anyone else should do. I clearly said we have a big house which helps. We don't have to downsize.

I'm not interested in what anyone else decides to do. Not sure what your issue is. If you're unhappy/struggling, try not to take it out others.

I'm not unhappy nor struggling lol Mine have moved out . And I was speaking in general of parents that seem to have to put their own lives and wishes on hold for evermore if their offspring decide not to move out. Very nice for you to have a big house but remember these things are not guaranteed in life. Divorce, illness, job loss can ruin people's lives in a very short space of time

RickyRoadddx · 29/08/2024 21:08

housethatbuiltme · 29/08/2024 20:56

Lets be honest would any woman on here want to date a 38 year old man who always lived at home with his parents and didn't financially support himself?

No.

And its not different for women either... if you want your able kid to stay home and they haven't even attempted to have a proper adult live in relationship and/or fly the nest by their 30s then you raised nothing but a failed cock lodging mooch. Its not something to be proud of and the amount of parental co-dependency is weird and NOT in your kids interest.

It is very possible to live at home - or return home - into your 30s and not be a slouch who can’t do anything for themselves.

Most of the people I know who live at home in their 30s have weird set ups where they’re either working away half the time or have moved home for a year or two whilst they find themselves between places and choose to save what they can.

They're generally not looking to date either, as they know the situation they’re in isn’t ideal.

Not everyone is a middle class professional who is in a long term straight relationship. Life doesn’t have to follow the traditional set up.

Missamyp · 29/08/2024 21:06

JumpingAtShadows1 · 29/08/2024 19:39

I find it bemusing that it isn't just a financial reason - it seems that some people just do not seem to WANT to move out

It is not just financial
I know people who COULD easily move out - I know two ladies in their twenties who are on the higher end of earners and still live at home with their parents (and the parents actually have a much lesser income). Ones actually a company director and her parents are pensioners.

Resentments build up on all sides
I just do not understand that - I think it is suffocating as an adult / and unhealthy dynamic of aging parents feeling they need to parent all the time.

Going out of the house as a high earning business director, but having to explain to parents where you are going - and yes it does happen as there is not the automatic cut of point between parenting a child and an adult: People cannot figure out how to adapt to emerging adult / parent relationships as their isnt the clear cut of point of them becoming fully fledged independent

Also in the case of the two ladies I know - they have a higher income than their parents however the parents are allowing them to stay at home free / very cheaply. One pays nothing and the other pays £15 a week. I mean come on - how much more do they actually want from their parents at this stage.

There is a thread on here about a mum who is sick of cooking for her adult son . - you can see how resentments may build up.

Parents might rather the young adult moved out, but feel guilty feeling this way and feel resentful that they are not enjoying retirement or their later years instead of having to give a free or cheap ride to a perfectly capable adult. They might feel resentful that their retirement pot is being eroded

Having adult kids at home changes a persons life style, some older adults have a sense of adventure and may have wanted to travel or spend time with their other half but this is pushed on to the backburner

I dont think its healthy for anyone to be honest

Not healthy for anyone but it's very common across the world.
Pooling wealth
Support network for those in the household providing emotional support, friendship and health care.

Achieving independence in the UK comes at a cost. The responsibility for independent housing and social care is increasingly failing in the private sector and the state. This is putting a strain on both public and private finances. The concept of pursuing independence at all costs is proving to be unsuccessful.

autienotnaughty · 29/08/2024 21:05

My eldest is 24. She moved into a house share at 21 (after uni) she earns 24k but could afford to live independently. She moved home a year ago to save . In a year her and her boyfriend have saved 10k so are two thirds of way to having a house deposit. They also pay a low amount of board.

There are areas of this country that are affordable for young people to rent or buy.

My youngest is disabled he will likely always live with me.it is what it is. There's no guarantees, no one should go in to child rearing with an expectation.

RuthW · 29/08/2024 21:04

Yes of course.

My dd is 27 and since finishing uni has lived with me. She can stay as long as she likes.

Skykidsspy · 29/08/2024 21:03

I hope they’ll move out but don’t expect it to be at 18! If they’re living here as adults though they need to contribute to the home they live in like adults - cook, clean etc.

Slowly weaning them away from me being the house skivvy as they get older so I can stop doing and thinking about everything that needs doing at some point! Not making dentist appts for 25 year olds…

FinallyYouSaid · 29/08/2024 21:02

3 dc are aged 16 to 7.

We're happy for them all to live at home for as long as they want.

We're not going to be able to gift them any deposits...but we can provide a large home where they all have their own double bedrooms, zero rent or bills to pay and the knowledge that they have a secure home for life.

It's an opportunity that neither dh or i ever had and I really hope they take full advantage of it and stay here until they're in a fantastic position to buy their own home with large saved deposit - whether that's at 20 or 30 or 40.

Zerro · 29/08/2024 20:58

Kitkat1523 · 29/08/2024 16:32

I get this…
.my 3 are 30s and 20s ….every night before I go to sleep I check when they were last on WhatsApp…. When any of them are under my roof at night I don’t need to do this and sleep more soundly for it

Haha, I don't quite do that but once a year maybe, Christmas eve, they both stay here and it's absolute bliss having all the chicks back in the nest if only for a few hours.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 29/08/2024 20:58

I'm dreading when my DC move out tbh.

In some ways I quite like the idea of multi generational living but that would very much depend on what their partners are like. It could be quite fraught.

I'd have quite liked to have lived with/closer to my parents when my DC were small to help spread the load.

housethatbuiltme · 29/08/2024 20:56

Lets be honest would any woman on here want to date a 38 year old man who always lived at home with his parents and didn't financially support himself?

No.

And its not different for women either... if you want your able kid to stay home and they haven't even attempted to have a proper adult live in relationship and/or fly the nest by their 30s then you raised nothing but a failed cock lodging mooch. Its not something to be proud of and the amount of parental co-dependency is weird and NOT in your kids interest.

Tumbleweed101 · 29/08/2024 20:51

Yes.

It's looking like it might be a struggle for mine to move out due to how expensive housing is now unless you have an inheritance to help them. So long as they pay their share of the rent and bills they can stay. Our main issue is we are over crowded. My 24 and 18yo are currently sharing a room.

SoundedGoodYesterday · 29/08/2024 20:50

So you keep them until they save a big deposit. Does it work that way if you are renting a 2 bed flat and would be financially better off downsizing

@Gogogo12345 What's your problem? I was talking about our own circumstances, not judging what anyone else should do. I clearly said we have a big house which helps. We don't have to downsize.

I'm not interested in what anyone else decides to do. Not sure what your issue is. If you're unhappy/struggling, try not to take it out others.

LuckySantangelo35 · 29/08/2024 20:43

Fancycheese · 29/08/2024 20:17

Yes but surely by the age of 38 they’re well able to support themselves, absent any health issues. I think you can stop pulling out the “you brought me into the world” card at 38! Otherwise when does it stop?

it should never stop according to @cosyleafcafe

TheBottomsOfMyTrousersAreRolled · 29/08/2024 20:39

I’ve friends who got married and moved from their parents home to their husbands family homes. Muslim and Sikh. They still live with in-laws 20 plus years later. Ive a non-religious friend who did the same, from her family farm to her in-laws family farm. Her brother and his wife stayed at her family farm.

Multigenerational living is common all over the world.

huuskymam · 29/08/2024 20:38

I have 2 in their 20s, (1 with a child) and a teenager. I'm dreading when they start moving on. Love having a full house, always someone to help with something, and loads of laughing. And having a grand child makes it even better.

Gogogo12345 · 29/08/2024 20:36

SoundedGoodYesterday · 29/08/2024 20:17

I wouldn't mind at all if our kids lived with us forever. I'd expect them to contribute to the running of the house but they do that already as a teen and adult anyway. We have a big house which helps as everyone can get their own space.

I'm sure they'll move out at some point as they'll want to but I hope it's when they've saved a big house deposit as it makes life easier. Well be helping them with that too when they want to leave.

So you keep them until they save a big deposit. Does it work that way if you are renting a 2 bed flat and would be financially better off downsizing

Mum2jenny · 29/08/2024 20:32

If the kids don’t move out, the parents have the option to move out, just saying!

Gogogo12345 · 29/08/2024 20:30

BottomlessBrunch · 29/08/2024 15:35

No I wouldn't, I wouldn't say I'm in a hurry for them to leave and to be honest when they become adults and can drive/have a car then they'll be pretty self sufficient anyway.

I'd draw the line at them living here with partners though and wouldn't want to even imagine having grandchildren here permanently.

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pinkroses79 · 29/08/2024 20:30

I would. I'd probably want a bigger house though. I'd also not want to be the one doing everything - cooking for example would have to be done on a rota. My eldest has moved out but I'm a single parent and the house is pretty quiet, often a bit too much.

Chocolateorange22 · 29/08/2024 20:25

I wouldn't be closed to the idea. Got a long way to go until that point mind. As long as they are paying their way and living as adults in the household then I don't think I'd be too bothered.

autienotnaughty · 29/08/2024 20:20

gamerchick · 29/08/2024 15:33

I do have a kid that will never move out due to his disabilities.

I wouldn't have kids at all no.

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Zanatdy · 29/08/2024 20:19

It wouldn’t bother me if they stayed for a long time / forever. I’m not sitting around desperate for them to fly the nest