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Would you have children if you knew they may never move out?

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bubblemaze · 29/08/2024 15:07

I know times have changed a lot lately and parents who had children who are now young adults are finding that those children have reached adulthood but aren't able to fly the nest so are staying in the parents home.
We don't know how society will be in 25 years.

What do you imagine for the future generations? Are people thinking about starting a family looking at permanently being financially responsible for their children, a lot of parents say they wouldn't charge their adult children to live in their own home but could be living with them for the rest of their lives?

I'm trying to imagine what having a family will look like for our generation.

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ShiftySquirrel · 30/08/2024 17:00

Yes I would. It's not unusual in my family for multiple generations to live together.

LuckySantangelo35 · 30/08/2024 16:47

cosyleafcafe · 30/08/2024 15:49

Yes.

@cosyleafcafe

but…why?! Surely a healthy young adult can take responsibility for themselves rather than compromising elderly , frail, ill parents? Surely after a certain age, most people wouldn’t want their parents to be put out in any way on their account ?

DancingLions · 30/08/2024 16:36

but there is a big world out there for them to explore

People make this point a lot. I've known many people over the years who moved out at a "normal" age but have not seen even a fraction of the world! I'm old enough now to have seen how it's gone for many of my friends and relatives.

Yes they moved out in their early 20's but not to go off travelling or "building a career". They generally worked low paid jobs to pay rent and living costs. At some point met a partner. Had DC. Many then separated at some point. So the women were left struggling financially. No spare cash. Too busy trying to make ends meet to do any kind of further study to improve their situation. DC grow up, mum's still working in low paid jobs. Now they lack confidence to do anything else. My sister is in exactly that situation, so I see it first hand.

My DC have always had the option to live at home. Having that backup has enabled them to take risks and know that they had a home to go back to. I don't think anyone can argue that financially it's cheaper to live at home and money = freedom. Once you're responsible for putting the roof over your head and paying all the bills, then you have to be far more cautious. Some would argue that that's just life and you need to go through it. But do you really?

housethatbuiltme · 30/08/2024 16:32

cosyleafcafe · 30/08/2024 15:49

Yes.

Your very much the kind that would sue over not consenting to be born aren't you.

cosyleafcafe · 30/08/2024 16:29

@Lentilweaver OK.

Lentilweaver · 30/08/2024 16:24

I could not disagree more.

cosyleafcafe · 30/08/2024 15:51

Lentilweaver · 30/08/2024 13:57

By that logic my 79 year old mum needs to open her house to me. Since she brought me into the world and all.

Parents should do what is in their children's best interests. Including once they are adults.

If you were in dire straits and needed help, and your elderly mother had the capacity to help you, then yes, of course she should help. You are her child.

cosyleafcafe · 30/08/2024 15:49

LuckySantangelo35 · 30/08/2024 15:02

@cosyleafcafe

what if your parents are elderly and frail or ill? Should you a healthy young adult sill come first and expect to be prioritised above them still?

Yes.

LuckySantangelo35 · 30/08/2024 15:02

Lentilweaver · 30/08/2024 13:57

By that logic my 79 year old mum needs to open her house to me. Since she brought me into the world and all.

@cosyleafcafe

what if your parents are elderly and frail or ill? Should you a healthy young adult sill come first and expect to be prioritised above them still?

Lentilweaver · 30/08/2024 13:57

By that logic my 79 year old mum needs to open her house to me. Since she brought me into the world and all.

cosyleafcafe · 30/08/2024 13:50

Nicelynicelyjohnson · 30/08/2024 09:40

I think you have to put your children first while they are children - and probably for some years after that depending on their personalities and capabilities.
I don't agree that you have signed up to that for life.
Adults need to learn to take responsibility for their own decisions at some point, and while it's nice if a parent can help out, it does adult children no favours to assume that that backup is there whatever they choose to do.

Would you be expecting your own parents to put you above them forever?

Yes. I would. And I would do that for my children.

If I make a decision to bring life into the world then that ensuring that person is OK is my responsibility. For life. Not just for 18 years.

Stompythedinosaur · 30/08/2024 11:40

Of course! I wanted my dc under any circumstances.

Hoplolly · 30/08/2024 11:23

Depends which of my children we're talking about!

summershere99 · 30/08/2024 11:20

It wouldn’t have changed my decision I don’t think but I’m not sure that having kids living at home in their 20s or 30s is really ideal. And I love my kids, love spending time with them, but I feel they would be missing out on so much that life has to offer if they don’t move out (unless there’s a very specific reason). I would always welcome them back if they need to come home for a season and I would love to live close enough to see them regularly but there is a big world out there for them to explore and living with mum and dad beyond early 20s is very limiting, not very independent, and really not what I would want for them long term.

Baddaybigcloud · 30/08/2024 11:06

We’ve bought and rent out the house next door - can move them in there when they are older if needed 😂

LittleLantern123 · 30/08/2024 10:57

I have an almost 18 year old and a 14 year old. I am happy for them to stay as long as they need/want to. My husband is older than me and I think he would ideally like them to move out as soon as they are able to do so.
In fact, all of the couples I know are the same, the mums are happy to have the 'kids' around indefinitely and the dads are getting antsy about when they will finally move out!

insomniacalways · 30/08/2024 09:47

Yes, I probably would my girls are 9 and 13. While the teenager can be challenging - I'd be up for them being around well into adulthood. So long as everyone is contributing something that sounds fine - otherwise as a single parent I'll probably want to downsize as I don't want to keep a 4-bed house going for just me.

Nicelynicelyjohnson · 30/08/2024 09:40

cosyleafcafe · 29/08/2024 22:11

At the end of the day if you can't put someone else above yourself, you shouldn't be a parent.

The doesn't mean the same thing as pandering to your adult child's every whim as you seem to be assuming.

It means if they actually need something, you will put their needs ahead of yours.

If you aren't prepared to do that then why bring another human being into the world who did not ask you to do so. If you create a life then you are responsible for it.

I think you have to put your children first while they are children - and probably for some years after that depending on their personalities and capabilities.
I don't agree that you have signed up to that for life.
Adults need to learn to take responsibility for their own decisions at some point, and while it's nice if a parent can help out, it does adult children no favours to assume that that backup is there whatever they choose to do.

Would you be expecting your own parents to put you above them forever?

Chocoholicnightmare · 30/08/2024 09:15

I'm divorced and have my own home which I'll try to keep hold of, in case my children need a place to live. If I ever move in with my DP, it would mean that my children wouldn't have to live with me- but my DPs children might live with us!

DancingLions · 30/08/2024 09:11

DS lives at home and probably won't move out again now. He did go to Uni and worked abroad. But he is ND and he struggled with it in various ways. He pays rent, does his own cooking, washing etc and shares chores. He doesn't want a relationship so that won't be a reason for him to move out. I'm also single and while I might date again in future (although not sure I want to!), I won't ever move a man in again.

Financially we're both doing well. My house is rented (SH) and we agreed from the start that we'd both pay the necessary expenses (rent/CT/utilities) proportional to income. Currently that means he's paying less but that will change over the years. As much as many people disagree with this, he can inherit the tenancy when I die. He doesn't "need" to buy a house. So we both have a good amount of disposable income.

We get on well, the house is a decent size so we're not on top of each other. The worst that happens is we might have a minor bicker over something but it never lasts long. He works, goes out with friends, all the "normal" things. Just doesn't date. I definitely do not "mother" him! I'm also having some health issues at the moment where I stop breathing and pass out (GP is investigating) so I'm quite glad there's someone else here and will probably feel more so as I get older.

Had you asked me when he was born whether I'd want to live with him "forever", the idea of it would have probably freaked me out in all honesty. But our lives have panned out how they have and this works for us. He has some friends that come from cultures of multi generational living and we're in London so more of his friends live at home. Many of my friends still have adult DC at home. So it's not seen as "abnormal" in our circles.

Sweetteaplease · 30/08/2024 08:59

Lentilweaver · 30/08/2024 03:30

I am quite surprised by the trend this thread has taken and by the number of people keen on multigenerational living. The UK is really changing, or perhaps returning to its roots.

Still draw the line at putting my DC first for their entire lives simply because I brought them into the world! At some point, I need to come first.

Personally I think multigenerational living could be a great thing, but only if you lived in a huge house where everyone had their own space. Especially if you have grandkids with grandparents

Myteasgonecoldiknow · 30/08/2024 08:56

I've got 22 yr old twins, one is desperate to move out after university but doesn't have any money the other is still studying. They're here on and off and I love having them here but it would seem a very different land if they were 30. Funny how those few years make all the difference...

Sweetteaplease · 30/08/2024 08:40

I assumed they would live at home until around 30 (sadly) so they could save up and buy their own home (with our help). House prices make it impossible to move out unless you have parents rich enough to buy you a house outright

housethatbuiltme · 30/08/2024 08:30

RickyRoadddx · 29/08/2024 21:08

It is very possible to live at home - or return home - into your 30s and not be a slouch who can’t do anything for themselves.

Most of the people I know who live at home in their 30s have weird set ups where they’re either working away half the time or have moved home for a year or two whilst they find themselves between places and choose to save what they can.

They're generally not looking to date either, as they know the situation they’re in isn’t ideal.

Not everyone is a middle class professional who is in a long term straight relationship. Life doesn’t have to follow the traditional set up.

But financially living off mummy and daddy forever so you don't have to 'slum it' is INHERENTLY middle class.

GrimeldaUpNorth · 30/08/2024 08:06

Agree @FinallyYouSaid . I bought my first flat in London at 22 for £65k on an £18k salary in 1991.

Today’s kids couldn’t achieve that purchase price in a huge swathe of the country.

My grandfather’s brother in law, seperate (to that BIL) sister and her son moved in with my grandfather back in the day when my grandmother died, because he had a big house that he didn’t want to leave and other things cropped up for people along the way, it worked for everyone, economically and otherwise.