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Starmer the non charmer

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Bogginsthe3rd · 29/08/2024 13:33

Now is the time to set out his vision for the UK, to inspire the UK towards harmony and productivity with a huge majority, which he will never have again. Instead there is a speech , presumably delayed by the riots, which continues to heap blame on the Tories. It was dour, depressing and offered no motivation to the public. There may be huge holes in the public finances and tough tax rises may be necessary, but he also needs to set out a grander plan for economic and societal prosperity. Why can he not do more ?

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Daysnconfuddled · 29/08/2024 18:52

Yanbu OP. TwoTierKeir is a robot, a puppet, has no empathy, no vision, complete charisma bypass, doesn’t care, a traitor.

StarrySkiesAtMidnight · 29/08/2024 18:52

I don’t think he’s quite the full ticket.

Normal people have some joy about them when talking about the future, even if it’s some years off. He doesn’t. He gives no credible indication that things will get better, just a never ending litany of doom and gloom.

His one mention of a possible future upturn was when he said that he removed the pensioners winter fuel allowance so things will get better for them. I expect he sees hypothermia as a benefit - confusing hypo with hyper. 🙄

CurlewKate · 29/08/2024 18:51

@CranfordScones "He needs to take the things we have and make them work. And do so within a reasonable budget"

Yes. What we need is a competent, clear thinking chief executive.

Buddenbruchs · 29/08/2024 18:50

hairbearbunches · 29/08/2024 18:47

I couldn't give a shiny shit whether he's boring or not. I do give a shiny shit about setting the bar so low on the WFA cut off that a lot of pensioners are going to be very cold this year, when his donors, the likes of John Caudwell and Peter Coates are still sleeping very restful nights in the knowledge that there isn't going to be a wealth tax on their billions any time soon.

What was your opinion on needless cuts to benefits ? Most of the pensioners who’ll lose out have better incomes than working people plus huge collateral in their homes.

CurlewKate · 29/08/2024 18:49

@Andthereitis "I am always surprised by how busy the fast food places are, the various chain coffee shops that have proliferated during these hard economic times."

There are studies showing that people are more inclined to give themselves small treats-like coffee and cake-in hard times when bigger treats are out of reach.

CranfordScones · 29/08/2024 18:48

He doesn't have a vision. He doesn't need a vision. We don't want a vision.

He needs to take the things we have and make them work. And do so within a reasonable budget.

Buddenbruchs · 29/08/2024 18:47

Justcallmebebes · 29/08/2024 18:36

Well we've had years of multiple, daily Tory hate posts. Why should the current government be immune and not held to account for their failings and unpopular policies?

Not really. Most were Tory love fests about how the tories know what a woman is. After 7 weeks and parliament in recess they've not actually enacted any legislation. Tories were in power 14 years, no hiding how bad they were and they very much deserved the ridicule and criticism. Do you actually think they were any good ?

hairbearbunches · 29/08/2024 18:47

I couldn't give a shiny shit whether he's boring or not. I do give a shiny shit about setting the bar so low on the WFA cut off that a lot of pensioners are going to be very cold this year, when his donors, the likes of John Caudwell and Peter Coates are still sleeping very restful nights in the knowledge that there isn't going to be a wealth tax on their billions any time soon.

Andthereitis · 29/08/2024 18:45

NeverDropYourMooncup · 29/08/2024 17:19

Then we'll have threads bewailing Starmer wanting everybody to exist on turnips and the occasional mouldy cabbage and how he's become the Strawberry Thief of the Middleclasses and they can never open their William Morris curtains without crying forever more.

You'll be lucky to get a turnip this year. The farmers (who are actually growing crops) have had an awful year.

I am always surprised by how busy the fast food places are, the various chain coffee shops that have proliferated during these hard economic times.

Buddenbruchs · 29/08/2024 18:41

anotherside · 29/08/2024 18:17

I hate the Tories, but Sunak was a small C conservative and a relatively steady pair of hands. If Starmer isn’t going to meaningfully diverge from Tory policy I’d rather have just kept Sunak as at least he has a bit of charisma to him.

😂😂

pointythings · 29/08/2024 18:39

Justcallmebebes · 29/08/2024 18:36

Well we've had years of multiple, daily Tory hate posts. Why should the current government be immune and not held to account for their failings and unpopular policies?

After 7 weeks, most of which has been summer recess?

Conversely, the Tories were still blaming Labour 14 years after they came to power.

The least Tory voters can do is give Labour one parliament to do their thing. Complain by all means - but give it time, and complain on issues of substance, not on how someone looks or sounds.

Justcallmebebes · 29/08/2024 18:36

redwinechocolateandsnacks · 29/08/2024 16:53

It's our daily 'we hate the labour party thread' - hurray!

Well we've had years of multiple, daily Tory hate posts. Why should the current government be immune and not held to account for their failings and unpopular policies?

CeruleanBelt · 29/08/2024 18:35

I think starmer is exactly the pm we need.

Fuck charisma, we've had years of tory charisma and look where that got us.

pointythings · 29/08/2024 18:35

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Honestly... The gravitas pool of the British electorate is now two inches deep and evaporating rapidly. It's politics, not entertainment. I rarely hark back to the 'good old days', mainly because they were shit, but just for once I long for the days when people went to the cinema for entertainment and didn't expect it from their politicians.

And once again, your post is all about how someone looks. Pathetic.

Bogginsthe3rd · 29/08/2024 18:35

Justcallmebebes · 29/08/2024 18:34

Labour did not win by a huge majority. They got in because they're not Tory. Hopefully, the Tories will regroup in the next 4 years and really get their act together so we only have a one term Labour government, gone before too much harm can be done

They did win by a huge majority.

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Bogginsthe3rd · 29/08/2024 18:34

OhmygodDont · 29/08/2024 18:32

Dead 😵 🤣🤣 I cannot. You win best comment I’ve read on the internet today 🤣

You want #ObamaStarmer?

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Justcallmebebes · 29/08/2024 18:34

Labour did not win by a huge majority. They got in because they're not Tory. Hopefully, the Tories will regroup in the next 4 years and really get their act together so we only have a one term Labour government, gone before too much harm can be done

ilovesooty · 29/08/2024 18:32

HedgehogCabinFan · 29/08/2024 16:13

2tierStarmer and his clampdown on free speech is absolutely terrifying.

What would you like to say that you're being prevented from saying?

OhmygodDont · 29/08/2024 18:32

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Dead 😵 🤣🤣 I cannot. You win best comment I’ve read on the internet today 🤣

Gwynn · 29/08/2024 18:29

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pointythings · 29/08/2024 18:24

anotherside · 29/08/2024 18:17

I hate the Tories, but Sunak was a small C conservative and a relatively steady pair of hands. If Starmer isn’t going to meaningfully diverge from Tory policy I’d rather have just kept Sunak as at least he has a bit of charisma to him.

And there we have it: the British electorate are just shallow as anything and would rather have charisma, chaos and corruption than a bit of sober common sense. I despair.

Bogginsthe3rd · 29/08/2024 18:21

Redgreenfroggy · 29/08/2024 18:06

Was wondering how long it would take today to get a Tory bot to pop up. Getting a bit predictable now.

What a queer comment !

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anotherside · 29/08/2024 18:17

LynetteScavo · 29/08/2024 18:12

I didn't vote for Starmer so I could be motived, I voted for him to steady the country. I bet he's feeling not too chirpy at was he's got to deal with right now.

I hate the Tories, but Sunak was a small C conservative and a relatively steady pair of hands. If Starmer isn’t going to meaningfully diverge from Tory policy I’d rather have just kept Sunak as at least he has a bit of charisma to him.

LynetteScavo · 29/08/2024 18:12

I didn't vote for Starmer so I could be motived, I voted for him to steady the country. I bet he's feeling not too chirpy at was he's got to deal with right now.

anotherside · 29/08/2024 18:08

It’s funny, some on the left and right both want to paint him as some radical who’s simply hiding his true nature - biding his time before making the big moves. The reality is he’s just a bland political nothing who’s so obsessed with being seen to not do the wrong thing - ie anything that be perceived as radical by the left or right - that he’ll spend 5 years doing absolutely nothing. So in that respect he’s centre right by default as he’s terrified of changing the status quo. His position on Israel/Gaza sums him up perfectly: probably disapproves of Israel’s recent moves but is so terrified of being labelled antisemitic that he’d rather be seen to be cheering them on than making any even mild criticisms.