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Starmer the non charmer

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Bogginsthe3rd · 29/08/2024 13:33

Now is the time to set out his vision for the UK, to inspire the UK towards harmony and productivity with a huge majority, which he will never have again. Instead there is a speech , presumably delayed by the riots, which continues to heap blame on the Tories. It was dour, depressing and offered no motivation to the public. There may be huge holes in the public finances and tough tax rises may be necessary, but he also needs to set out a grander plan for economic and societal prosperity. Why can he not do more ?

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Dymaxion · 29/08/2024 20:40

Love him or loathe him, it's five years before the next GE.

I am not sure calling someone names is going to make them leave their job, especially when you consider the job they did before, the middle class offerings on here probably pale into insignificance compared to the ones he heard in his previous job ?

And he has beaten Truss in days served which I appreciate is a spectacularly low bar for anyone !

pointythings · 29/08/2024 20:39

I don't understand where the idea that Starmer is a traitor comes from - could someone explain? It's new to me.

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Daltonbear1 · 29/08/2024 20:37

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Nope the special school types are your lot that prkb love tommy Robinson and think starmer is a traitor

Daltonbear1 · 29/08/2024 20:36

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Same shit that happened when Boris won more people voted for other parties but that's how our system works so it doesn't matter that poster is right a massive majority

ClockwiseHoneysuckle · 29/08/2024 20:35

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There is overt wealth in the hands of a tiny proportion of the population, most of whom are making bloody sure that none of it gets invested back in the UK. Do you seriously believe that life is not doom and gloom for the much, much larger poorer section of the population?

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Bogginsthe3rd · 29/08/2024 20:35

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Majority refers to the number of seats compared to opposition/ other parties. You are referring to the popular vote.

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BIossomtoes · 29/08/2024 20:35

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And because of tactical voting to GTTO. That’s why the LibDems did so well.

Daltonbear1 · 29/08/2024 20:35

It's like reading talk radio talking points because life woukd be so much better under Nigel wouldn't it? The guy that is to lazy to meet his consituents

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ClockwiseHoneysuckle · 29/08/2024 20:33

cupcaske123 · 29/08/2024 15:39

I agree. I was waiting for a Churchillian speech about beaches but it was a bit of a bore fest. Don't understand why he's going on about the Tories, they're last week's chip wrapping.

It's sheer folly to say we have to ignore the last 14 years given that that is the direct cause of the current shitshow. It's just basic economics that you need to know how you have got to where you are before you can take any steps to remedy things, and, of course, that there are no magic wands.

Daltonbear1 · 29/08/2024 20:31

CrispsnDips · 29/08/2024 20:05

If there is such a big black hole why have we just given £12 BILLION away in Foreign Aid? 🤨

You thick fxxks don't realise that's a bribe you know how China has hit loads kf Africa now because of their belts and braces approach by paying stuff infrastructure basically bribing them. Well we if we started again to do similar as it got cut it might mean we could win allies but also potentially stop these cou tries having loads of people escaping as life is shit to our country etc. It's not just aid

Julen7 · 29/08/2024 20:17

ElsieMc · 29/08/2024 20:00

What is all this fake stern face stuff from Keir Starmer, like a headteacher after a school riot. Now step forward Rachel Reeves. When I see her face on tv, I absolutely dread what this mono-toned bringer of misery is going to do next. Same for the Education person (Bridget someone) who became very cross on GMB when asked a perfectly reasonable question she disagreed with and reverted to same stern expression.

I knew matters were difficult, but I did expect to see a bit of the early days of the Blair Government when there was a feeling of optimism following many years of Tory government.

I honestly think they had this all figured out prior to the election win. I mean which blackhole is it - the one they already knew about or a second one. When asked this quite pointedly by Mishal Hussein, RR became very flustered indeed.

Yes, I know it is down to the conservatives. But the winter fuel decision is Reeves not the conservatives. At least stand up and be counted.

I know, the black holes are getting confusing to everyone I think. Are there two?

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Bogginsthe3rd · 29/08/2024 20:11

Iwasafool · 29/08/2024 20:08

He's treating us like adults, no sugar coating the truth, no pretending it is all going to be sunshine and roses. Personally I prefer the truth and I don't want idiots like Johnson with his "funny" hair.

For me I want the honesty and realism he is undoubtedly giving, but to have this coupled with a purposeful vision for economic and societal growth. This would be better leadership imo.

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Iwasafool · 29/08/2024 20:08

He's treating us like adults, no sugar coating the truth, no pretending it is all going to be sunshine and roses. Personally I prefer the truth and I don't want idiots like Johnson with his "funny" hair.

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Bogginsthe3rd · 29/08/2024 20:05

Perplexed20 · 29/08/2024 20:04

@Bogginsthe3rd ah the 'you do you' argument.

I'm not anti political debate. Why don't you post it in politics section?

I just pointed out that your expectations in 8 weeks were ridiculous, like all the other multiple threads on this.

AIBU to post in AIBU? Because it was an AIBU question.

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CrispsnDips · 29/08/2024 20:05

If there is such a big black hole why have we just given £12 BILLION away in Foreign Aid? 🤨

Perplexed20 · 29/08/2024 20:04

@Bogginsthe3rd ah the 'you do you' argument.

I'm not anti political debate. Why don't you post it in politics section?

I just pointed out that your expectations in 8 weeks were ridiculous, like all the other multiple threads on this.

ilovesooty · 29/08/2024 20:03

No explanation of endorsing this two tier stuff then.

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Bogginsthe3rd · 29/08/2024 20:03

BIossomtoes · 29/08/2024 20:01

The really amusing thing about the “Why hasn’t he saved the world and delivered a gold ingot to my doorstep yet?” posts is that they’re from the same posters who accused Labour voters of expecting the world to be transformed the morning after a change of government. Now they’re the impatient ones.

And yet if you read my actual question, it has no relation to what you are saying.

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BIossomtoes · 29/08/2024 20:01

The really amusing thing about the “Why hasn’t he saved the world and delivered a gold ingot to my doorstep yet?” posts is that they’re from the same posters who accused Labour voters of expecting the world to be transformed the morning after a change of government. Now they’re the impatient ones.

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Bogginsthe3rd · 29/08/2024 20:01

Perplexed20 · 29/08/2024 19:58

@Bogginsthe3rd I didn't say there was a conspiracy.

I just think it's boring and ridiculous.

I wonder if you've just given the game away.

I love your vagueness about progress towards your 'personal and professional goals'. What are these then?

That appeared to be your argument. If it wasn't, I assume you must just be anti political debate. You do you I guess.

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