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Starmer the non charmer

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Bogginsthe3rd · 29/08/2024 13:33

Now is the time to set out his vision for the UK, to inspire the UK towards harmony and productivity with a huge majority, which he will never have again. Instead there is a speech , presumably delayed by the riots, which continues to heap blame on the Tories. It was dour, depressing and offered no motivation to the public. There may be huge holes in the public finances and tough tax rises may be necessary, but he also needs to set out a grander plan for economic and societal prosperity. Why can he not do more ?

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ilovesooty · 29/08/2024 16:05

Cluborange666 · 29/08/2024 15:44

Are we going to have one of these threads every day?

Looks like it.

Samcro · 29/08/2024 16:04

I wish people would use the politics board

Gwynn · 29/08/2024 16:01

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cupcaske123 · 29/08/2024 15:48

Cluborange666 · 29/08/2024 15:44

Are we going to have one of these threads every day?

They're pretty relentless.

MirandaBlu · 29/08/2024 15:48

Isn't the motivation for the public (according to Starmer, anyway) to get out of the hole and return to some semblance of normal living in a functional society? He's basically said that if we do the things his government intend to do we have a significantly better chance of improving than if we don't. He'd also get a load of criticism if he were cheery, upbeat and made promises he can't necessarily keep - e.g., from stiff-upper-lippers, realists, busy people, and the "no time for fairy tales, I take my whisky neat" brigade.

Cluborange666 · 29/08/2024 15:44

Are we going to have one of these threads every day?

OhmygodDont · 29/08/2024 15:44

I don’t think any party regardless of colour rosette would ever be properly honest 🤣

Cat shit or dog shit the lot of them 🤷🏻‍♀️

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 29/08/2024 15:43

midgetastic · 29/08/2024 15:40

Well if fewer people end up poorly Because of smoking it will be better in the long run

And it is the tories fault - they have run everything down, they have lied to everyone , they have spread hate and blame liberally

  • he can't unify the country with a few well chosen words because people need results ( takes years ) not words

And because too many people are sulking that the far right didn't get in and too many are sulking that he will tax richer people more and too many will sulk if he tries to prevent the worst of climate change ( which would be eye watering expensive or societal collapse I'm not sure which way the uk will fall )

This.

Perhaps he's trying a brand new evolutionary tactic in politics - honesty?

Gwynn · 29/08/2024 15:43

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midgetastic · 29/08/2024 15:40

Well if fewer people end up poorly Because of smoking it will be better in the long run

And it is the tories fault - they have run everything down, they have lied to everyone , they have spread hate and blame liberally

  • he can't unify the country with a few well chosen words because people need results ( takes years ) not words

And because too many people are sulking that the far right didn't get in and too many are sulking that he will tax richer people more and too many will sulk if he tries to prevent the worst of climate change ( which would be eye watering expensive or societal collapse I'm not sure which way the uk will fall )

RafaistheKingofClay · 29/08/2024 15:39

Bogginsthe3rd · 29/08/2024 15:35

I guess I'm wrong!

I don’t think you are wrong. Not completely. The blame needs to be put where it belongs and there needs to be honesty about how bad things are. But I feel like there might have been a better balance to be struck.

cupcaske123 · 29/08/2024 15:39

I agree. I was waiting for a Churchillian speech about beaches but it was a bit of a bore fest. Don't understand why he's going on about the Tories, they're last week's chip wrapping.

OhmygodDont · 29/08/2024 15:36

Banning smoking near pubs will certainly help fill that black hole of missing funds 😬

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Bogginsthe3rd · 29/08/2024 15:35

I guess I'm wrong!

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