Measles … I don’t understand!

When was this?

Because I'm old and it was never a 'generational' thing in my experience

Bonkers. When was this?

My sister (born in the 40s) had badly affected eyesight from measles

Adults past 45-50 need a shingles vax.

You can only have the Shingles vaccination on the NHS if you were aged 65+ on 1st September 2024, unless you are immunocompromised or beginning immunosuppressive therapy, in which case it’s 50+. If you don’t satisfy any of these conditions it’s around £450-500 for the two Shingles vaccinations.

I wouldn't worry. I found out when I was pregnant with my first that I wasn't immune even though I had two injections. I received another 2 after I had my daughter and i was told again, two years later that I wasn't immune when I was pregnant with my son. The MMR apparently doesn't work on 10% of people anyway. 🤷 I've had it 6 times now and still probably not immune. Also, they only used to give people one injection in the 80s anyway.

+1 for this.
And to anyone reading this who decides, or has decided, not to get their children vaccinated against MMR or anything else: that decision could lead to you facing a life-changing lawsuit. From your own child.

Fact 1: Whilst I was at school there was a revaccination programme for anyone born in September 1977 or later.
Fact 2: They have since realised that this should have been earlier and anyone at risk of catching measles - even if they've had the measles vaccine - is eligible for the MMR.
Fact 3: Both my husband and I were offered the MMR about ten years ago and have had the jab. My husband opted for the single jab. I've had both as I work in a high-risk role. We had both been vaccinated for measles as infants.

My great aunt was left blind from measles and I know of a young lad, in his 20s now, who also lost his sight through measles complications when he was a pre-teen.

I had it 40 years ago and was pretty ill but thankfully no lasting damage. I wasn’t able to have the vaccine because of bad asthma at the time (before MMR). It’s so important everyone is vaccinated to protect those who can’t have vaccines.

When I was nine, I remember visiting my friend when she has measles. This would have been in 1968. She was in bed with the curtains drawn. I didn't catch it from her, but did eventually catch it when I was 13. Fortunately, I had it very mildly and wasn't particularly ill. Just basically felt a bit rough and had a headache.
I came out of quarantine on Christmas Day which was good as we were having Christmas dinner at my aunt's.

Ask your doctor whether your child should have a couple of doses of vitamin A. It seems to be part of the NHS protocol as it helps to mitigate the illness to some extent. Your doctor should know the appropriate dose. Vitamin A must be treated with respect.

My friend’s lovely teenage son had his life ruined by chicken pox. He is in permanent pain and may always be. My brother’s friend was made permanently deaf by mumps. A girl at my school was mentally and physically disabled due to her mother catching rubella whilst pregnant. The girl found a lump in her breast but didn’t tell anyone until it was too late (due, I guess to learning impairment) and died of breast cancer. All this ‘innocent childhood diseases’ is nonsense. Get your kids vaccinated.

I think you’re thinking of German measles, which isn’t dangerous unless you’re pregnant, hence why there were German measles parties.

Measles: Can kill a child. More likely Auditory nerve damage ie deafness.
German measles: The damage from German measles comes from exposure to pregnant women and birth defects.
Chicken pox- Scars from skin infections and encephalitis. Adults past 45-50 need a shingles vax. Some localities are still having voluntary chicken pox exposure. Lollipops from infected children are passed on.

Wasn’t that German measles?

Except the research Curious is quoting(Brian Hooker study i think) has been debunked, there is not evidence that the unvaccinated have better outcomes (whatever that is supposed to mean).
Here is a study by KIGGS That shows no difference other than the fact unvaccinated are more likely to get the diseases we vaccinated against

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3057555/

Dr Sears ,in his dodgy vaccine book, says you shouldnt tell your friends and neighbours that you are not vaccinating because you may talk them into not vaccinating and your child will not benefit from herd protection

Are you not thinking of chicken pox?

There are lots of good books on this now and they are well researched, science based. Robert F Kennedy Junior has published Vax-Unvax: let the science speak for itself. This shows incontrovertibly in developed countries unvaccinated children have better long term health outcomes.

You are absolutely right. The best position to be in is to be the one unvaccinated person in a sea of vaccinated people, because you get all the benefits of herd immunity with none of the risks of vaccination.

Problem is, the risk benefit changes pretty dramatically as vaccine levels drop off. As soon as they're low enough that the disease can spread, outcomes for the unvaccinated are dramatically poorer.

That's not quite right. The single jabs were fine, no question marks over efficiency

The cut off is 1970, loosely based on the introduction of the vaccine and allowing a bit for initial take up.

If born before 1970, the assumption is that you will be immune from the wild disease and so you fall outside the main programme (or did, it might have changed) but sometimes you'll get it on request.
If born after 1970, you are eligible for catch up if you have not received 2 doses of any vaccine that includes the measles component, or if you are unsure of your vaccination status.
If you had your jabs outside UK or privately (including single vaccines after 1997) then NHS will have no record of it and will offer MMR.

ive had measles as did the whole infant school in the 1970s there was no child that was hospitalised or deaf or blind because of it. it was t nice like chicken pox but honestly i don’t think there any need to panic especially if your child has had 1 jab and healthy.
neither of my children were vaccinated andrew wakefield era and i don’t regret it. they have been contacted by the GP on catch up they are adults and it’s their chioice. My nana neighbour’s child was vaccine damaged from the measles individual jab. when you see that against a disease that was mild just not worth risking. everyone has the right to choose

I grow up before the measles vaccine existed, and measles, mumps, and whooping cough were all things we expected to get some time in our childhood. But I can't remember anyone deliberately exposing a child to measles to get it over and done with. Chickenpox, maybe, but not measles.

I'd consider getting the MMR for yourself if you haven't already. Make sure you get both. In the early '90s they had to have a revaccination programme because issues were found with the measles vaccine from 1970 onwards. Your DC should be okay with one but both provides additional protection. You can have full immunity with just one jab. One is better than none. Unfortunately it's a binary issue - your DC will either be immune or won't be 😞.

in the uk and in 1999 too best way

@curious79
And if she does get it in all likelihood, she’ll be absolutely fine. It is immunocompromised and already unwell kids who fare badly from measles. When I was growing up our parents would literally take us to peoples houses when they had measles so we could all catch it and be done with it.

This did not happen. Measles was a serious disease that children died from so no parents were trying to make sure their children got it.

I was extremely ill with measles as a child in the 1960s. My GP was worried that I might die.

So, I think you might be talking absolute shite.

I remember people doing that with chicken pox. Never heard of it for measles or any other "childhood illness."

https://www.vaccineinformation.org/testimonies/olivia-dahl/

Roald Dahl's letter about his daughter dying from measles