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To have said this in front of my husbands (and mine boss)

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VickyMcVities · 29/08/2024 06:50

My DH has form for belittling my feelings about completely legitimate concerns I have. He literally laughs often in front of other people including our children. This has on more than one occasion resulted in literally injury to one of our children because he refuses to heed my worries (I asked him to close a door whilst I breastfed our youngest as I was worried our middle child would climb out of an open window in that room, he refused, laughed and guess what? Child fell out of window and cracked her head open. I could give more (less dramatic but highly irritating examples).
At a recent work BBQ we were having a discussion in front of his boss (not big boss but reporting boss) and I said "our 18 year old daughter is not sleeping in a car driven by Joe Bloggs (a young male we all know to be silly and irresponsible) after a party. She'll freeze and it's dangerous." DH laughs and makes out as if I'm going overboard and everyone is doing it and I'm fussing. As the BBQ was a family event my 13 year old daughter was also present and another colleague.
I finally just cracked and said very very calmly (possibly weirdly calmly!) "DH if you ever belittle my legitimate concerns in front of our children again I will instruct a solicitor to divorce you" and I walked off.
I accept on the face of it that I may have gone overboard in an inappropriate context. HOWEVER I have had fucking years of this and am sick of it. I am also under huge amounts of stress right now due to very very ill close family and I'm having to reduce my working hours at my own expense to look after them so am not in a good place. (Be gentle please!)

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LondonUSAGirl · 21/10/2024 17:42

Why are you still with this guy, and letting your kids grow up thinking it's ok for a man to repeatedly belittle his wife?

AmIEnough · 04/09/2024 08:32

GreenGrass28 · 29/08/2024 06:58

What you said wasn't unreasonable given the background you've given, but saying it in those circumstances was. That's a statement that should have been said privately. Not only was it not great from a professional standpoint for your dh, but I fear now your dh will focus more on the fact you said it in front of his boss, rather than focus on WHAT you said, which means it probably won't have had the impact you'd hoped.

You can't unring a bell though, so I'd acknowledge to your dh that it wasn't the right moment to say it, but reiterate that you meant it (assuming you do). If you didn't mean it, then there's the additional lesson of don't throw around empty threats.

This!

We will have limits so try not to beat yourself up too much. It sounds as if you’ve had years and years of this kind of behaviour which has clearly resulted in either inconvenience to you or injury to your children and you are the one having to pick up the pieces.

Granted, the situation where you said this was probably not the right one, however you’ve done it now. It seems to me that your husband has no respect for you and may even do this to you because he himself has low self-esteem. I’m not making excuses for him in the slightest and I think I would probably feel exactly the same way as you do. He needs to change and show you a little more respect and I think you need to have a conversation about what you said and the fact that you meant it (assuming you did). I wish you all the best.

K0OLA1D · 02/09/2024 14:35

Beebopmoon · 31/08/2024 16:13

No, he just continually belittles, demeans and ridicules her in front of her children and others which is a form of abuse.

That still doesn't make it ok.

Goodtogossip · 02/09/2024 14:31

I can understand your frustration with your husband if he undermines or ignores your opinions often but the delivery of your response wasn't the best timed. Hopefully your Boss knows you both well enough to know your relationship dynamics & might know you're personal circumstances & that you're stressed & not on top form so won't take too much notice of it all.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 31/08/2024 20:25

Two wrongs don't make a right.

pinkstripeycat · 31/08/2024 17:28

Edingril · 29/08/2024 06:56

Your child is 18 you can't dictate what they do

And you demand he does what you want and because he doesn't obey you will divorce him then divorce him

OP isn’t dictating but she is still her child’s parent and to be fair many 18 year olds will still have respect for their parents to listen to any concerns .
My kids are still respectful enough at 17 and 18 to ask my permission for things even though they know they can do their own thing.

OP well done for calling your DH out!

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 31/08/2024 17:12

Hectorscalling · 29/08/2024 13:23

From the title I think the Op works in the same place.

She very might have impacted both their jobs.

and women are usually judged more for snapping, than men are for thinking their wife’s concerns are silly

Well I, as a female parent, think her concern about the 18 year old is silly and controlling. And this wasn't the time or place to have the discussion.

I would have been embarrassed for her husband , felt sorry for the 15 year oldcand would have been cringing at the OP's behaviour.

Beebopmoon · 31/08/2024 16:13

K0OLA1D · 31/08/2024 15:22

He didn't threaten divorce in front of a child

No, he just continually belittles, demeans and ridicules her in front of her children and others which is a form of abuse.

K0OLA1D · 31/08/2024 15:22

ThistleTits · 31/08/2024 14:49

Then he should remember that!

He didn't threaten divorce in front of a child

ThistleTits · 31/08/2024 14:49

K0OLA1D · 31/08/2024 13:10

Its never ok to say in fron of your kids

Then he should remember that!

K0OLA1D · 31/08/2024 13:10

ThistleTits · 30/08/2024 19:23

Why not, he does it to her repeatedly. She's very stressed and has reached her last nerve.

Its never ok to say in fron of your kids

ThinWomansBrain · 31/08/2024 13:10

Fine to stand up for yourself re being belittled - I think I'd not have mentioned solicitor/divorce, just booked some time off the following week to see a solicitor.

Needafriend14 · 31/08/2024 13:05

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy
This really isn't about her 18 year old DD sleeping in a car (although I think any DM would be concerned about this).
It's about OP being continuously humiliated and emotionally abused in front of children, colleagues etc for a very long time.She then just loss it and quite rightly so.OP I feel for you this would happened me I wish I had spoken up earlier because my eldest DS has little respect for me.

Josephinesnapoleon · 30/08/2024 22:12

ThistleTits · 30/08/2024 19:23

Why not, he does it to her repeatedly. She's very stressed and has reached her last nerve.

Yeah but the examples she’s given,he’s right to push back. I mean cmon, the daughter is 18, and sure he didn’t shut the window many years ago, but neither did she. His job is not to just agree with her as she’s a woman; she’s clearlymotg always right.

DoreenonTill8 · 30/08/2024 19:53

KerryBlues · 30/08/2024 18:09

Yes, exactly.
Nothing to be clapping and Pom Pom waving at, at all.

Absolutely, who's going to explain to the 13yo if it was actually only an empty threat to get control, or if they're going to be sitting stressing that their parents are divorcing?

ThistleTits · 30/08/2024 19:23

Heronwatcher · 29/08/2024 07:21

He sounds like a bit of a dick but I wouldn’t have said that in front of other people, especially not his boss.

Why not, he does it to her repeatedly. She's very stressed and has reached her last nerve.

Beebopmoon · 30/08/2024 19:06

Sounds like it was the last straw for you OP. I don't think you were bu; he's been dismissing and invalidating your feelings/concerns for some time by the sounds of things, and doesn't appear to have any problem doing it in front of others', so well done for taking a stand.

KerryBlues · 30/08/2024 18:09

Toomanyemails · 30/08/2024 18:08

Did the people saying well done realise your 13 year old was there?! It sounds like a horrible environment for them to be in with their parents sniping at each other.

Yes, exactly.
Nothing to be clapping and Pom Pom waving at, at all.

Toomanyemails · 30/08/2024 18:08

Did the people saying well done realise your 13 year old was there?! It sounds like a horrible environment for them to be in with their parents sniping at each other.

helpplease01 · 30/08/2024 17:59

He’s a dick! Well said.

Meredithmama · 30/08/2024 17:58

Sounds like he was belittling you in from if your boss in the first place. As for 18 year old daughter I understand and it seems your fears are justified as for being 18 yes she can make her own decisions just as she can pay her own rent and food. Yes maybe the divorce bit was a little much at a party but to be fair I think after the window incident you would have kicked him to the kerb anyway. Also for those saying she could have shut the door herself firstly she was breastfeeding and secondly is it a big ask for a father to protect his child.

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 29/08/2024 17:15

Edingril · 29/08/2024 06:56

Your child is 18 you can't dictate what they do

And you demand he does what you want and because he doesn't obey you will divorce him then divorce him

Did you never look out for hazards when your children were little? Did you allow them to play in the middle of the road? If your DH had let them would you have asked him not to or just stood and watched whilst they were run over?

Josephinesnapoleon · 29/08/2024 17:05

saraclara · 29/08/2024 17:02

The boss doesn't know the history, nor does he know you as well as he knows your DH. He only knows what he was forced to witness.

Your DH's comment was slightly uncomfortable to listen to, at worst. Yours was toe curling uncomfortable to witness.

Given that he and your DH probably get on reasonably well, I'm going to guess that he'll be more sympathetic to him than to you. At worst he thinks you're a maniac. Airing your dirty linen in front of him and your 13 year old was horrible for all of them.

If a woman came on here and said that her DH had said what you did in front of her boss, this thread would have been nothing other than LTB responses. There certainly wouldn't have been anyone cheering him on.

Edited

I agree, it was a pompous and horrible thing to say in front of her kid, over something she’s no say over, a bunch of kids sleeping in their cars after a party. Quite frankly I’d have responded as her husband did.

saraclara · 29/08/2024 17:02

The boss doesn't know the history, nor does he know you as well as he knows your DH. He only knows what he was forced to witness.

Your DH's comment was slightly uncomfortable to listen to, at worst. Yours was toe curling uncomfortable to witness.

Given that he and your DH probably get on reasonably well, I'm going to guess that he'll be more sympathetic to him than to you. At worst he thinks you're a maniac. Airing your dirty linen in front of him and your 13 year old was horrible for all of them.

If a woman came on here and said that her DH had said what you did in front of her boss, this thread would have been nothing other than LTB responses. There certainly wouldn't have been anyone cheering him on.

Josephinesnapoleon · 29/08/2024 16:58

LittleRedYarny · 29/08/2024 12:59

@LadyKenya Because if I heard a parent laughing at another parents concern about the safety of their child in a vehicle with a young reckless driver (irrespective of if the child was 8 or 18) I would think they were an arse… HTH

Edited

Well everyone would, but as that’s not what this was I am unsure why you made the comment. She’s worried her daughter will be cold. And all the kids are staying in cars. Unless it’s the dead of winter, I’m not sure I’d class that as a safety concern. More an overbearing parent one.

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