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To think im not at fault here!!!!

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Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 28/08/2024 21:20

Long rambling Post to follow!
Long time poster, name change to hide my humiliation!!!
Perimenopausse which doesn't help but I'm on HRT, which helps somewhat.
I'm starting to think DH isn't a very nice man. Or very nice to me should I say. Been together a long time.

Different personalities but always had a good relationship. I suppose I'm a bit highly strong and perhaps talk too much and too much shit. 😅
DH has always been quite easy going and very tolerant of me and very forgiving if i upset him or had a row. (Not that I've done anything bad!!!).
Except now he's not. Over the past few years he's very intolerant of me. Calls me out on everything I do to piss him off.
I've challenged him over this and he said he's not putting up with my shit.

I can accept my faults and offer to change , or we can split if I'm so bad. He denies he's unhappy.
He says he doesn't want me to change the way I am which is confusing. But seems to think its perfectly OK to pull me up on stuff and then just expect me to forget it.

We have 2 teenagers who I have always been very close to. They are good kids.
I feel like I'm being paranoid , as I now think they are taking their dad's side.
We were on holiday last week and mostly had a fab time. One day we were out and one was cheeky to me and I pulled them up. Teen said I was crazy and embarrassing. And some of the stuff they found funny about me is no longer funny. I get that. They are teens.
Same day, we all had a minor spat whilst playing a board game. I said let's leave the game as it getting argumentative. Dh said "your mum is mental ".
I was raging but didn't want a further row do let it go.
I'm looking at my future and thinking what's in store?
Teens won't want to come away with us in a few years and I adore my holidays. I cannot bear to think of me and DH with him snapping at me and speaking to me like I'm a child or modifying my behaviour.

I know he loves me and i I love him. We lots of happy times.
Things have changed though and DC are growing up. We had such happy times when they were little. Not sure what I'm asking here. Maybe if anyone been through similar?
And if anyone had advice about taking teens on holiday please help!!!!,as I'm also starting to feel I'm forcing them to do stuff or go places I Like. They are school age. I give them options and we go to various places, UK and abroad.

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LadyQuackBeth · 29/08/2024 11:30

I think a bit of honest reflection would help a lot - would you enjoy your own company, honestly? What is wrong with changing the way you behave if you are maturing or taking other people into account. Very few parents treat their toddlers and teens the same way, that is evolution rather than being forced to change.

I would hate going for dinner with someone who spent a lot of the time going on about the restaurant being the wrong choice - what an absolute waste of headspace and bringing the mood down. Try to make the most of things instead, for your own sake as well as the people you are with. Can you put an elastic band around your wrist and snap it any time you feel a "mither" coming on, to break the habit.

It sounds as if you need a lot of validation, for every decision you make or task you do and that DH is not forthcoming and now the teens aren't either, so you are adrift. However, you aren't going to get it by pestering him. I think you would be happier working on you sense of self in other ways, find things you are good at, set challenges like running 5k or learning watercolours, anything to give you a boost that isn't hoping someone else gives you it.

I hope you feel happier soon, but it does sound as if the kind of happiness that has to come from within rather than the temporary boost you'll get from people online calling your DH names.

MsVestibule · 29/08/2024 11:23

Ah, OP, I really feel for you. Your self esteem must be fairly low for you to use such derogatory language about yourself 😕. It's great that you're aware that you sometimes need to rein it in a bit, but you can't change your whole personality.

I think we're probably a similar age. DH and I are looking forward to retiring early and travelling, hiking, going to restaurants and cafes etc. If I was dreading our retirement together, I just couldn't stay with him now. This is your one life and I honestly think you're better off separating now and either remaining happily single or finding somebody who will appreciate you how you are.

Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 11:19

I absolutely do not dance around, other than at home. Or make up names for anyone other than my pets 🙁
I am not loud.
Silly behaviour in my own home. Mithering to DH about stuff that concerns us only. Yes its annoying I accept that. But indo not do this with the general public.
I should be comfortable to be myself at home. But I can see that I need to just fonwith the flow as DH says.

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Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 11:15

@IReallyCouldntThinkOfAUsername
Oh god I never do this with 'regular ' people!that is cringe.
I only have a small group of friends like 3, plus my eldest sister and we all go out and are all a bit daft. Not loud. Just a bit barmy in our own way. Have a drink and all know each others quirky side.
Outside of this I'm fairly normal
I don't socialise much with colleagues. Work hard, but have a laugh. I cant imagine anyone would see anything that I do as annoying!!

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Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 11:06

SomethingFun · 29/08/2024 10:57

Maybe please yourself rather than worrying about everyone else. That might stop the second guessing restaurants etc (which sounds terribly annoying). Counting down to xmas is also really annoying - it’s not like it’s a different day every year 😁

Perhaps you threw yourself into a child’s world to make up for the fact your dh is boring and dull. You can’t judge your dc on how they are as teenagers as being how they are for the rest of their lives 😁

maybe get some counselling for you for these life changes/ work stress. It doesn’t sound like you will get what you need from your husband.

Thanks. Great food for thought.

No I will never get what I need from.DH. I need to accept that.
I have definitely thrown everything into the DC. I did so.much when they were little played with them, read, took them to lots of things, free stuff and holidays. I don't expect a medal but I think I've done a lot more than other people that I know
.I am struggling to imagine life with just me and DH. Eldest is nearly 16 and in a couple of years won't even come away with us.
I do try to please myself more and I need to work on it
Holidays are difficult as I ask everyone where would you like to go or want to do. Often they will day don't mind!!!
I wanted to go for a nice meal in a nice place and I even packed a nice outfit. Never went ,as DH was like just go with the flow!! So I did, so as not to be controlling and guess what , we went the chippy.

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MWNA · 29/08/2024 11:06

Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 10:55

@YellowRoom
He is a thousand per cent a fun sponge. His life is static.
Goes to work, comes home , glued to telly and then bed. He's happy to have a holiday(singular). Doesn't care to do much else. Doesn't go out.
I love sitting at home too. I don't Chat non stop all night as was suggested above!!

I work long hours and like to sit and watch telly, love reading.
Walking the dogs etc
I most certainly do not spend my evenings having conversations with DH. He is not a talker( or a listener).
But stuff that I do mither about or sound off about he gets exasperated. He wants a quiet life.

I'd find it very hard to be around someone who "mithered" a lot. You've used that expression a few times. What a truly tiresome quality. Try keeping your querulous, whiny thoughts to yourself perhaps. That's being a fun sponge!

IReallyCouldntThinkOfAUsername · 29/08/2024 10:59

Honestly the more I read the more I am cringing a little for you (sorry). Because I have a friend just like this, and although I am fine with her because I've learned to just let her be without me getting pissed off with her...everyone around us I see cringing at her or just not wanting to be around her. I am not suggesting you're to this degree, but so much of what you describe she does. Insanely enthusiastic, non stop chatting, she thinks everyone thinks she's really funny which you keep mentioning, making up silly names, singing and dancing loudly around the place all the time, butting in to everyone's conversations, seriously OTT in everything she does. Sadly she doesn't have many true friends as people distance themselves as they don't know how to take her.

SomethingFun · 29/08/2024 10:57

Maybe please yourself rather than worrying about everyone else. That might stop the second guessing restaurants etc (which sounds terribly annoying). Counting down to xmas is also really annoying - it’s not like it’s a different day every year 😁

Perhaps you threw yourself into a child’s world to make up for the fact your dh is boring and dull. You can’t judge your dc on how they are as teenagers as being how they are for the rest of their lives 😁

maybe get some counselling for you for these life changes/ work stress. It doesn’t sound like you will get what you need from your husband.

Cheesecakecookie · 29/08/2024 10:57

You have said you think out loud and mither.

If it’s often it might be very irritating.

Ultimately it sounds as though you and your DH are just very different people.

Do you both spend all of your time which each other or does each have you have your own hobbies/friends etc ?

WhappleBee · 29/08/2024 10:55

Bumblebeestiltskin · 29/08/2024 10:19

Your last line really reminded me of a woman I used to work with. Very argumentative and over the top, the type to say 'I just tell it like it is' while being nasty to people. Then if she was ever pulled up on it, the bottom lip would come out and she'd say things like oh well I just won't talk any more then, I'll just sit quietly in the corner so I don't upset anyone.

(Annie, is that you?? 😂)

People pleaser in me is panicking that you’re talking about me but I avoid conflict and confrontation like the plague so I’m hoping it isn’t 😂😂

Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 10:55

@YellowRoom
He is a thousand per cent a fun sponge. His life is static.
Goes to work, comes home , glued to telly and then bed. He's happy to have a holiday(singular). Doesn't care to do much else. Doesn't go out.
I love sitting at home too. I don't Chat non stop all night as was suggested above!!

I work long hours and like to sit and watch telly, love reading.
Walking the dogs etc
I most certainly do not spend my evenings having conversations with DH. He is not a talker( or a listener).
But stuff that I do mither about or sound off about he gets exasperated. He wants a quiet life.

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Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 10:48

@Cheesecakecookie
I don't voice everything I think. I dont witter like an old lady!! I'm probably not explaining myself well.
I do try and tone down my behaviour though. But if I don't talk much ,or be myself, you know what DH says?
That I'm behaving unnaturally or I'm in a mood!

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YellowRoom · 29/08/2024 10:46

You sound lovely and like you're tying yourself in knots trying to please everybody. Your relationship with your children will change as they get older and you need to navigate this. But your DH sound like critical, fun-sponge. It sounds like he wants his life to be static and you to fit into this. It doesn't sound like he would be interested in looking at how you feel and trying to resolve things together. He seems to be starting from the premis that he's okay just the way he his and you need to change. But being enthusiastic and trying to please people aren't bad things on your part. Your happiness is important. And he's untidy...

OhmygodDont · 29/08/2024 10:44

I’m tired just reading this tbh.

I couldn’t do with dh getting in from work and then just chattering all night long. Moaning about work, having thoughts out loud like it’s a conversation when it’s internal monologue. Then seconding guessing himself on what he ate. Ah id go crazy.

Seems like you make a big deal of your routines too. Like the beach oh it’s X day we have to go to the beach today haha suckers. Or you could just go to the beach. It doesn’t have to be a thing that it’s always X day even if it is. Just go and have fun.

Cheesecakecookie · 29/08/2024 10:41

Honestly you would drive me insane.

My mother is similar. She’s never had a thought she hasn’t voiced and goes on and on about inconsequential things.

Have you ever tried not voicing everything out loud and letting other people enjoy the quiet ?

Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 10:38

Another example of my behaviour is that I like certain routines and traditions. Like we go to a certain beach August bank holiday and I make a fun joke that we have no choice. . Everyone likes it there, but now DH will say stuff like "don't upset your mum, you know what she's like with her routines". I used to laugh it off, but now it makes
me feel shit. If everyone wanted to go somewhere else I would, but I'm the only one who plans anything, otherwise we would do fuck all!!
Now I feel that by booking and planning stuff I'm controlling.

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Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 10:33

Halfemptyhalfling · 29/08/2024 09:36

The more you drive the more confident you will be

I've been trying this for years and it hasn't worked yet!!!!

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Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 10:31

Bumblebeestiltskin · 29/08/2024 10:22

You say you're both becoming less tolerant of each other, are YOU happy in the relationship?

Honestly, I'm.not sure.
I think I happy with how life used to be and how I used to feel. All nostalgia I suppose.
Sometimes I think I wouldn't care if we split but that would be very difficult emotionally and financially. But that's tbe same for everyone.
Then we have happy times and so many shared memories I don't think I could bear it!!
But equally, I can't bear how I feel now. I cant work out if DH is making me feel like this or .making myself feel like this.

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Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 10:25

@Squr
Yeah this is what I need to do. Absolutely. For my sanity.

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Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 10:23

Bumblebeestiltskin · 29/08/2024 10:19

Your last line really reminded me of a woman I used to work with. Very argumentative and over the top, the type to say 'I just tell it like it is' while being nasty to people. Then if she was ever pulled up on it, the bottom lip would come out and she'd say things like oh well I just won't talk any more then, I'll just sit quietly in the corner so I don't upset anyone.

(Annie, is that you?? 😂)

No thats certainly not me. I'm not argumentative at at all. In fact, I let so much slide that really in the past I'd have exploded. .not over the top either
Just a bit daft and silly and take the piss out of myself. Only with people I know well . No one would ever describe me as OTT.
But I do know an Annie ha ha.

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Bumblebeestiltskin · 29/08/2024 10:22

You say you're both becoming less tolerant of each other, are YOU happy in the relationship?

Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 29/08/2024 10:20

It's really hard to explain how I am in a post. So much easier to say verbally(yes I'm a chatterbox).
I suppose the main thing is,I'm always second guessing myself.
Then I mither and say "oh I wish we had done this or that" Or should we have gone here or there?
I suppose its thinking out loud. My friends and family (siblings) find it funny.
Dh does find it funny a lot of the time, or takes no notice.

But other times(and its more and more) he snaps which he didnt do in the past. Any moaning or general nagging( every day stuff) used to go over his head. Now he pulls me up.

I've definitely become less tolerant of him. He's always been the type that hasn't got much get up and go- a bit of joy killer at times and he's got worse. I don't know what i expected. He was never going to turn into the life and soul of the party In middle age when he wasn't in his 20s.
My older sister is the only one who gets all of this. And she says what did you expect.
To the poster above who said presumably he knew what I was like when he met me, well this is true.
The thing is, I can see my faults and will try and modify my behaviour. He doesn't.
Hes super untidy, burps and farts constantly. Stuff that grates on me more and more but refuses to stop as he says I'm fussing.
I tell him there are things I'm.not happy about but he's apparently perfectly happy as long as I 'don't go on'. So that's alright then🤔

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Bumblebeestiltskin · 29/08/2024 10:19

Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 28/08/2024 22:13

I get this and I'm not saying that ppl should say he's a bad man. Just how do I deal with grumpy ish man who finds me irritating ( but won't admit this).
Sometimes I'm just quiet as I feel I say the wrong thing or I'm 'going on '. Then he calls me out on that- saying I'm behaving unnaturally.
Best to be invisible I think.

Your last line really reminded me of a woman I used to work with. Very argumentative and over the top, the type to say 'I just tell it like it is' while being nasty to people. Then if she was ever pulled up on it, the bottom lip would come out and she'd say things like oh well I just won't talk any more then, I'll just sit quietly in the corner so I don't upset anyone.

(Annie, is that you?? 😂)

Squr · 29/08/2024 10:11

Ivenamechangedsomanytimes · 28/08/2024 22:17

@DoreenonTill8
Absolutely not.
I'm.not a big personality. I act daft at home. Think dc always thought I was fun,now they think I'm embarrassing.
Outside of home, friends would thinknim good company and a laugh I guess.

I'm not loud or opinionated. Just chatty and I mither a lot and go over stuff( in a light hearted way). Dh seems to find this irritating.

You’ve described me. I’m finding how I am is wearing thin on my nearest and dearest, particularly my repetition - I irritate myself! I’m making a conscious effort to chill a bit, without quelling the parts of my personality that I know are fun

Gallowayan · 29/08/2024 09:45

Difficult to say, from what you have posted, to what extent, or if you are at fault.

The fact that you are able to self appraise and own your faults is in your favour. Also, your husband was predumably aware of your personality style before he married and had kids with you?

You say that your husband has become intolerant and I would question why he has changed? Do you have any insight into this?